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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on April 19, 2021, 11:14:08 PM
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Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
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After all I've seen about the murder of George Floyd, I only have three words for Judge Cahill:
Lock Him Up!
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
7. If the judge implies once again for a mistrial we should...
...Lock Him (Cahill) Up.
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
5. Chauvin is guilty as hell.
Not Maxine.
Star Member WhiskeyGrinder (11,681 posts)
3. That's...not how it works.
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
6. The judge wants a mistrial even more than the defense.
He is doing everything he can to release the murderer.
Star Member WhiskeyGrinder (11,681 posts)
8. Again, that's not how it works.
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
9. That is the problem. It "now how it works". We let killer cop go free.
Look out for the the mistrial.
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
18. It's how he will go free.
Star Member Ocelot II (93,521 posts)
13. Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about.
The defense moved for a mistrial and the judge denied the motion. If he'd wanted a mistrial he'd have granted it.
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
20. He's not brave enough to do it himself.
He's setting it up for the next judge. That is how it now works.
RegularJam (8 posts)
25. That's not how the system works.
The system gives opportunity for appeal, thankfully. The rest is conjecture on your part.
And yes, if a juror is interviewed and says that MW influenced them, it’s a big deal. Of course she didn’t, but the option is there for good reason.
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
12. Does the judge "only decides for how long"?
Lock Him Up! As Long As You Can!
Star Member Ocelot II (93,521 posts)
19. Once again, that's not how it works.
After someone is convicted of a felony, the court is required to order a presentence investigation and written report, which is to be prepared by a probation officer or the Commissioner of Corrections and identifies the defendant’s individual characteristics, circumstances, needs, potentialities, criminal record and social history; the circumstances of the offense; and the harm the offense caused others and the community. This report must include a sentencing worksheet in order to apply the sentencing guidelines. If the judge decides to depart from the guidelines he has to explain why, and the sentence can be appealed. It's not a simple matter of arbitrarily imposing a sentence just because it's what the judge wants.
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
22. Here is how it works now:
Killer Cops Go Free ASAP.
Consider it my protest sign tonight.
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
14. The judge has made the case for a mistrial twice now.
He needs to be removed.
Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
16. Again, he made the case for a mistrial.
He is setting it up for another pro-cop judge.
Star Member Ocelot II (93,521 posts)
23. *sigh* No, he isn't.
But I guess you're bound and determined not to understand how this works. I'll try again, anyhow. The judge apparently thought Waters' comment was inappropriate but not inappropriate enough to warrant a mistrial, so he denied the motion, and all he said was basically that the defense could appeal. The appellate court isn't bound by the judge's remark, nor is any other judge. The law regarding appellate review of a motion to deny a mistrial is this:
"The denial of a motion for a mistrial is reviewed for an abuse of discretion. A mistrial should be granted only if there is a reasonable probability, in light of the entirety of the trial including the mitigating effects of a curative instruction, that the outcome of the trial would have been different had the incident resulting in the motion not occurred. The trial judge is in the best position to determine whether an error is sufficiently prejudicial to require a mistrial or whether another remedy is appropriate."
https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/Appellate/Court%20of%20Appeals/Standards-of-Review.pdf
In other words, the court of appeals is unlikely to overturn the verdict or grant a new trial on the basis of Waters' comments, the failure to grant a mistrial, or the fact that the court didn't sequester the jury. I hope this isn't too complicated for you.
Otterbrain has a few screws loose...
:mental:
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Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
7. If the judge implies once again for a mistrial we should...
...Lock Him (Cahill) Up.
Lock up a judge for following legal procedure but going against your prejudiced desired outcome?
I think you would feel more at home in North Korea or china...
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Lock up a judge for following legal procedure but going against your prejudiced desired outcome?
I think you would feel more at home in North Korea or china...
Except in either place they'd be the ones getting locked up...would be difficult for them to face the reality of their ideas.
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Don't blame the judge, blame the prosecutors and Waters, who created the grounds for a potential appeal.
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:thatsright: It takes a DUmmie to claim Trump calling for his rally participants to be peaceful "inciting an insurrection".
:thatsright: It takes a DUmmie to approve of Mad Maxine urging people to riot if the verdict isn't "Guilty".
:thatsright: It takes a DUmmie to approve of Mad Maxine tampering with an un-sequestered jury by threatening violence unless they bring back a specific verdict.
:thatsright: It takes a DUmmie to disapprove of the judge pointing out Mad Maxine's grossly obvious riot incitement and threat against the jurors, but not doing a damn thing about it.
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It would be rather amusing to imagine what the DUmp would be like during the OJ trial. Would they be marching in lock-step to acquit the Juice, a famous black man of considerable privilege, or be in support of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman?
:popcorn:
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And I only have three words for crazy Auntie Maxine who fanned the flames if the trial doesn't end the way she demands, and incitement of riots and violence:
Lock Her Up!
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So, DUmmies, mob rules except when it doesn't?
Effin idiots.
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So, DUmmies, mob rules except when it doesn't?
Effin idiots.
Mob rules as long as it's their mob. If proggies and moonbats are out numbered or outvoted, then things (rules, laws, logic) must be pretzeled so things still go their way.
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Yep, majority rules... unless the majority wants voter ID, or more police, or for immigration laws to be enforced.
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Star Member JoeOtterbein (5,765 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215354017
After all I've seen about the murder of George Floyd, I only have three words for Judge Cahill:
Lock Him Up!
Lock him up for what? Please clarify. Thank you.