DUmbasses find irrefutable proof of The Conspiracy

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

The Straight Story  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 09:46 AM
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State Dept. Attacks Conspiracy Theories
 State Dept. Attacks Conspiracy Theories

In addition to handling the Obama administration’s diplomatic responsibilities, the State Department is also working on debunking conspiracy theories. On its suspended website (America.gov), the agency provides a section called: “Conspiracy Theories and Misinformation.” It’s pretty clear where the State Department stands on the subject, with the front-page declaration: “Conspiracy theories exist in the realm of myth, where imaginations run wild, fears trump facts and evidence is ignored.”

The State Department Site is divided into nine categories: September 11, Health, Military, Outer Space, Economics, U.S. Domestic, U.S. and Islam, Latin America and Others.

Although most of the conspiracy theories covered are farfetched, some have many advocates, in particular those relating to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2011. The site, which is no longer being updated, contends that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot President John F. Kennedy.
 

Pharaoh  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 09:54 AM
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1. Their lips are moving
 which means they're lying and are afraid.

quinnox  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 09:58 AM
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2. The ministry of truth wants to ensure all citizens have an untroubled and safe peace of mind
 Questions are dangerous and should not be wondered on, as the official sources tell us all is well. The only conspiracies that exist are the ones officially endorsed, such as the Sept 11th official theory and the Kennedy assassination Oswald official theory.

bbgrunt  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 09:58 AM
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3. more gov't disinfo.

 

RC  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 10:00 AM
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4. Right, the WTC's both collapsed because the fire on the 80th floor, weakened the supporting
 steel all the way to the 7th sub basement. Sure, ya betcha there Charley.

Ezlivin  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 10:01 AM
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5. Trying to keep their lies straight
 By attacking the "conspiracy theories" they will only increase the interest of those who, until then, had paid them little attention.

Anyone who trusts the "official story" without investigating further does a disservice to truth.

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[FlaGator]

To denounce conspiracy theories is to be come a either a participant or a pawn of the conspiracy machine.

[JohnnyReb]

RC  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 10:00 AM
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4. Right, the WTC's both collapsed because the fire on the 80th floor, weakened the supporting
 steel all the way to the 7th sub basement. Sure, ya betcha there Charley.

....and I'll prove it to you.....as soon as I remember where I put my experimental equipment....now where did I put that rabbit wire and those cinder blocks?

[USA4ME]

To denounce conspiracy theories is to be come a either a participant or a pawn of the conspiracy machine.

That's it in a nutshell.  To a conspiracy theorist, they must believe what the conspiracy theory tells them to believe, and anyone who presents evidence to dispute the theory is part of a conspiracy to keep the "truth" from being revealed.

 

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[miskie]

....and I'll prove it to you.....as soon as I remember where I put my experimental equipment....now where did I put that rabbit wire and those cinder blocks?

Rabbit wire ?? That's a lagomorphist dog whistle. You need to read, erm.. something.... 

[Texacon]

Yet ALL of this is happening under a Democrat administration.  Go figger.

None of the DUmmies will vote against the current admin.  None of them.  Why?  Because he's black.  Well half black but they won't admit to that.

Buncha racists.

KC

[diesel driver]

More chicken wire, more kerosene!

Where are my cinder blocks?

[ReaganForRushmore]

More chicken wire, more kerosene!

Where are my cinder blocks?

What about cow bell?

[diesel driver]

What about cow bell?

YES!

We ALWAYS need more cowbell!

[FlaGator]

That's it in a nutshell.  To a conspiracy theorist, they must believe what the conspiracy theory tells them to believe, and anyone who presents evidence to dispute the theory is part of a conspiracy to keep the "truth" from being revealed.

 

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It's the same with their man-made global warming theories. Everything becomes proof of global warming. Too hot = AGW,
Too cold = AGW, Rainy = AGW, Drought = AGW, Normal weather patterns = AGW is on a short vacation.

[diesel driver]

It's the same with their man-made global warming theories. Everything becomes proof of global warming. Too hot = AGW,
Too cold = AGW, Rainy = AGW, Drought = AGW, Normal weather patterns = AGW is on a short vacation.

Gator, didn't you get the memo?

Global Warming - OUT!
Climate Change - IN!

Please make the necessary changes to your database. 

[JohnnyReb]

Rabbit wire ?? That's a lagomorphist dog whistle. You need to read, erm.. something.... 

I'm pretty sure that when the DUmmie ran his experiment he called it "rabbit wire".

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I'm pretty sure that when the DUmmie ran his experiment he called it "rabbit wire".

Which obviously shows the ptarmigan connection.

[JohnnyReb]

For your scientific perusal

spooked911  (1000+ posts)  Wed Oct-05-05 06:31 PM
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Can a jet fuel/hydrocarbon fire collapse a steel structure? An experiment.
  
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 07:29 PM by spooked911
I set up the following experiment using steel rabbit fencing as the steel structure supporting a heavy cement block.

Note, this fencing is easily bendable, has no significant rigidity, and was not reinforced in any way. The fencing was bent into an outer square and an inner rectangle (the core):


Then I damaged the "columns" by cutting them with wire cutters:



Just inside where the gash was made in the outer wall, I placed a cup of kerosene (jet fuel), and there was newspaper around the bottom on the structure.

Then I put a heavy cement block on top, weighing about 15 pounds. I don't think the wire structure would hold more than three of these blocks, so the "safety factor" was not particularly high.


Then I tipped over the cup and lit the kerosene:



Then fire burned for about twenty minutes, and toward the end, I put my foot on the structure to see if it would extra weight. It still did:


The structure held up fine after the fire died:


After the fire was hot, the "columns" were not hot at all:



In a second experiment, I used the same wire fence and block set up, but increased the amount of "airplane damage", added in newspaper all around the inside of the structure, and soaked everything thoroughly with kerosene. In this expt, the fire was more intense and lasted significantly longer, but... the structure held up just fine. (Sorry no pictures of this one).

What I conclude is that a fairly flimsy steel structure does not distort and bend and collapse very easily from a simple hydrocarbon fire. And thus, it is not clear why the much stronger steel columns in the WTC towers weakened so much from fires that the towers underwent global collapse.

If kerosene/jet fuel/hydrocarbon fires can indeed cause steel structures to collapse, it should be quite simple to show this in an experiment-- right?

http://www.democraticunde...d=56836&mesg_id=56836



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