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Offline SSG Snuggle Bunny

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Trash Talk Down
« on: November 01, 2011, 02:34:26 PM »
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quinnox  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-01-11 01:08 PM
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Recently saw Black Hawk Down and was disgusted by the propaganda
 I heard how this was supposedly such a great war movie with many things going for it such as, Ridley Scott the well known director, lots of big name stars, it was nominated for many academy awards etc.

Well, its a movie that shows the American soldiers all in a shining noble light, while the enemy, the Somalians, who all happen to be black and very dark skinned, are depicted as evil savages whose main goal in life seems to be to kill as many people as possible.

Its a good example of how any American intervention is treated as a just cause, and the reasons for it are dismissed quickly as not important. Its like - if America is there fighting, that is all the justification needed to know we are doing the right thing, who cares what the other side thinks or their viewpoint.

And to top it off, it wasn't that great a movie in terms of pure action either. It got boring after an hour and a half, and yet another hour to go showing the same types of battle scenes over and over with the same "stirring" heroics by the soldiers.

No wonder so much of our populace is gung ho on any military action the US does, the movies feed this to them as well as most of the other forms of mass media in this country.

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Balbus (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-01-11 01:11 PM
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1. What color skin should the Somalians have had in the movie?
 Would you have preferred them being played by white actors?

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quinnox  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-01-11 01:14 PM
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2. way to miss the point
 And it would have been nice to see more than one black soldier on our side.

It was like a sea of lily white faces versus dark skinned Africans, the racist subtext was not subtle.
 

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Township75 (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-01-11 01:54 PM
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14. S/he ****ing nailed your ass on that one.
 If it is "missing the point", maybe you shouldn't have put that in your OP...obviously you thought it was important enough to bring it up.

As far as the "one" black soldier on our side, well, all the characters were based on actual soldiers from a platoon, so maybe they thought of using a white actor to play a white soldier????

Come to think of it, I didn't' see any female soldiers on our side...you didn't point that out.


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AngryAmish (1000+ posts)        Tue Nov-01-11 01:14 PM
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3. Don't watch "Zulu" or you might get sad.

 :lmao:

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WinkyDink  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-01-11 02:05 PM
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21. Its purpose was to (help) bring down Clinton, not to be racist.

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Township75 (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-01-11 02:16 PM
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25. Is that why it was released in 2001?
 What was he going to be brought down from since he was out of politics at that point?

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leftyohiolib (274 posts)      Tue Nov-01-11 02:09 PM
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23. wow, someone's gonna need ice to ice down the groin muscle after that stretch

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Odin2005  (1000+ posts)        Tue Nov-01-11 04:44 PM
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35. Oh for ****'s sake.
 You probably think "Pearl Harbor" is racist against Japanese people, too.

Me no rikey

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Re: Trash Talk Down
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 03:19:17 PM »
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the Somalians, who all happen to be black and very dark skinned, are depicted as evil savages whose main goal in life seems to be to kill as many people as possible.

:lmao:  "happen to be black."  What a DUmbass. 

Hate to break it to you, DUmmie, but Somalians are evil savages who love to kill as many people as possible.  Plus, as PJ O'Rourke says, while the women are drop dead beautiful, the men are ugly as ****ing sin. 
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Re: Trash Talk Down
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 03:50:02 PM »
I have a buddy that was in Mogadishu during the 60s.  His dad was a industrial diver and he said it was a beautiful place. Then guess what religion came into power? Now it is hell on earth.  GO ISLAM!!!!1111!!!eleventy
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Re: Trash Talk Down
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 04:34:33 PM »
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while the enemy, the Somalians, who all happen to be black and very dark skinned, are depicted as evil savages whose main goal in life seems to be to kill as many people as possible.

That's pretty accurate.  The fact that they are very dark-skinned is of course purely coincidental, and trying to make some racial point about it is like bitching about "Letters From Iwo Jima" because the Japanese soldiers all had epicanthic eye folds.
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Re: Trash Talk Down
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 04:43:05 PM »
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Balbus (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-01-11 01:11 PM
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1. What color skin should the Somalians have had in the movie?
 Would you have preferred them being played by white actors?

They have done that with fiction, like Sum Of All Fears, when they made the movie, they changed the bad guys from "brown people" to whites.

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Re: Trash Talk Down
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 04:50:48 PM »
Black Hawk Down is one of my son's favorite movies. He has watched it so many times he knows every line in the movie.
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Re: Trash Talk Down
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 04:55:32 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on November 01, 2011, 04:50:48 PM
Black Hawk Down is one of my son's favorite movies. He has watched it so many times he knows every line in the movie.

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Re: Trash Talk Down
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 09:23:36 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 01, 2011, 04:34:33 PM
That's pretty accurate.  The fact that they are very dark-skinned is of course purely coincidental

And it's not like we don't have enough video footage to prove it.
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Re: Trash Talk Down
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 10:13:35 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 01, 2011, 04:43:05 PM
They have done that with fiction, like Sum Of All Fears, when they made the movie, they changed the bad guys from "brown people" to whites.


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