DUmmy writes a letter to Obama and Holder

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guitar man  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)        Tue May-19-09 07:12 PM
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I just sent this to Obama and AG Holder
   
I felt compelled to speak out about torture so I fired this off to The President and the Attorney General a while ago. I doubt either will get to read it in the flood of email they get, but it felt good to get it out. Just thought I'd share it with you all.


Dear Mr President and Mr Attorney General,

I am writing with concern for the future, and with the deepest concern for the very existence of the country I love. I think it is now beyond debate by any reasonable person that officials in our Government, up to and including the former President did indeed authorize and carry out brutal torture in direct and flagrant violation of US and International law.The only question that remains is, what is going to be done about it? Are we going to allow them to be above the law or are we going to hold them to the same standards every law-breaker in our Nation should be held to?

It matters not if those tortured were "bad people", a "threat to national security and the safety of American citizens" or even Beezelbub himself. The singular fact that disturbs me most and should outrage every citizen of this country is the fact that we were indeed torturing. The techniques described in the memos have, in the past resulted in the prosecution and even the execution of the people responsible for implementing them. So how could we possibly now allow any and all parties to such actions to escape justice, and if we do, what would that make us? Perhaps the largest 3rd world, tin pot dictatorship "banana republic" the world has ever seen, except with a shiny coat of gloss over the rot that lies underneath. I sincerely hope and pray my family never has to live in such a country. If we decide not to prosecute and punish the torturers, I fear the United States of America we all know and love will cease to exist and devolve into a despotic regime that knows no bounds, with no moral or ethical compass.

I have a 3 year old daughter who not long from now, will be entering school. Am I going to have to try and explain in the near future that what is described in her sanitized history book is not true? That it's a whitewash at best or an outright fabrication at worst? There is no way I will be able look into her eyes and tell her anything but the truth about what we are living through at this present moment in history. And after I tell her that truth, how am I supposed to respond if/when she asks "daddy, does this mean they can come take us away and torture us too?" My God the last thing I would ever want to have to do is to tell her that awful truth should we fail at this moment in time to do what is right and just. How do you explain to your child that our own government is free to carry out such atrocities with impunity?

And yes, I can hear the naysayers now. "We have such big problems right now, the economy, unemployment, health care etc. on the table, do we really need to pursue this now?" The short and simple answer is, yes, we do. Believe me, I'm a simple working man and I am being battered and bruised by the economy and cost of health care too, but all the economic recovery in the world isn't worth a plug nickel if it comes at the price of killing our Democratic Republic by allowing these criminals to go free and live above the law. Surely we can recover the economy and pursue justice at the same time.

I also know without a doubt that prosecuting and punishing those responsible for these atrocities will no doubt cause significant political repercussions and upheaval. No doubt, the pundits and politicians from the Republican right will scream "partisan witch hunt" and worse in relation to any such prosecutions, in spite of the ironic fact that they are the ones who impeached President Clinton over a mere tryst. Don't let them sway you, gentlemen, what's right and just must be done in spite of their incessant and irrelevant howling. Mr President, as a candidate you stood up and stared them in the eye and called them out on their hyperbolic spin, half-truths and outright fabrications. As President, I have no doubt you can do the same in that face of any opposition you and Attorney General Holder will encounter in this matter.

Mr President, Mr Attorney General, please, please don't let the people responsible get away with this, I beg of you. For the future of our Nation and for our future generations, please investigate, arrest, prosecute and punish those involved in illegal torture, up to and including former President Bush and former Vice President Cheney.Should we fail to do so, then may God help us all.

Sincerely

L M
Tulsa Oklahoma

Here's my prediction of the response:


Dear Guitar Man,

Please print all correspondence to the President on two-ply paper.

Sincerely,
No One Gives a **** What You Think

[USA4ME]

Here's my prediction of the response:


Dear Guitar Man,

Please print all correspondence to the President on two-ply paper.

Sincerely,
No One Gives a **** What You Think

Good answer, and probably the one Dear Leader would send him if he could get away with it.  I'm inclined at this point to say that Dear Leader, in somewhat the same manner as The Impeached One, is more than willing to throw the kooks under the bus knowing they have nowhere else to go.  We'll see if that holds true.  If he wants to have any hope of success, he better have already realized that the primitive types who got him elected are to be ignored when it comes to running the country.  Like The Imeached One did in 1996, when 2012 comes around they'll do what their cult leader tells them to do despite the fact that he abused them the last 4 years.

guitar man

And yes, I can hear the naysayers now. "We have such big problems right now, the economy, unemployment, health care etc. on the table, do we really need to pursue this now?" The short and simple answer is, yes, we do. Believe me, I'm a simple working man and I am being battered and bruised by the economy and cost of health care too, but all the economic recovery in the world isn't worth a plug nickel if it comes at the price of killing our Democratic Republic by allowing these criminals to go free and live above the law. Surely we can recover the economy and pursue justice at the same time.

This primitive has no concept of political capital and how it works.

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[Lord Undies]

Hey, DUmbass:

You can send an email every hour on the hour but it still won't magically change "waterboarding" into torture, and it will not magically make that interrogation tool retroactively illegal.

I know you Little Goons hate reality, but sometimes it's bigger than your fantasy, and you have to deal with it.

[BlueStateSaint]

Hey, DUmbass:

You can send an email every hour on the hour but it still won't magically change "waterboarding" into torture, and it will not magically make that interrogation tool retroactively illegal.

I know you Little Goons hate reality, but sometimes it's bigger than your fantasy, and you have to deal with it.

A bigger part of that reality is that they matter less, in the general scheme of things, than the boils on the ass of Knut the polar bear.  (Don't ask me why I thought of that bear--I just did.)

[thundley4]

A bigger part of that reality is that they matter less, in the general scheme of things, than the boils on the ass of Knut the polar bear.  (Don't ask me why I thought of that bear--I just did.)

Knut was cute as a cub, but I killed him when I plugged in my cell phone and mp3 player at the same time. 

[GOBUCKS]

Who is Beezel, bub?
Every time DUmmies try to sound literate, they end up giving themselves away as ignoramuses.

I'm sure the jug-eared Kenyan communist and his sidekick will carefully consider this moron's letter. Even with a muslim in the White House the DUmmies can't get what they want.

[BlueStateSaint]

I'm sure the jug-eared Kenyan communist and his sidekick will carefully consider this moron's letter.

And then turn it into toilet paper, to use the letter properly.

[JohnnyReb]

I know it can't pay much but.......who is the ghost writer for the DUmmies?

[BlueStateSaint]

I know it can't pay much but.......who is the ghost writer for the DUmmies?

Isn't it a ghost chicken?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Brethren (and hawt babes), rejoice! I was using the Rove-a-Matic 5000 Email Scrubber and came across a copy of his unedited draft of this missive.

Behold:



Dear Mr President and Mr Attorney General,

I am writing with concern for the future, and with the deepest concern for the very existence of the country I love. And by love I mean I'm going to rage and fume regardless of the facts even if they exonerate the one I profess to love I think it is now beyond debate by any reasonable person and by reasonable I mean I totally disregard the views of the 70% of my fellow citizens who disagree with me that officials in our Government, up to and including the former President did indeed authorize and carry out brutal torture in direct and flagrant violation of US and International law. the fact that the memos you released ask what were the limits of the law and that the proposed techniques were within those limits notwithstanding The only question that remains is, what is going to be done about it? Are we going to allow them to be above the law or are we going to hold them to the same standards every law-breaker in our Nation should be held to?Except maybe Ted Kennedy, Bill Ayers, John Kerry, Chris Dodd, Gary Scruggs, Bawney Fwank, Patrick Leahy, etc

It matters not if those tortured were "bad people", not that I normally allow moral distinctions, I'm just saying a "threat to national security and the safety of American citizens" or even Beezelbub himself although I'm not sure how they could be a threat to Beelzebub, I just have lousy syntax. The singular fact that disturbs me most and should outrage every citizen of this country but only really others about 30%...which is conincidentally roughly the same percent of democrats that think 9/11 was a LIHOP or MIHOP event is the fact that we were indeed torturing and by torturing I mean attention grasps that would hereby criminalize just about every parent with a screaming child the world over. The techniques described in the memos have, in the past resulted in the prosecution and even the execution of the people responsible for implementing them and if I could actually site some examples of my hyperbole I would, what's really important here is that you consider the terms "Bush" and "execute" in the same thought. So how could we possibly now allow any and all parties to such actions to escape justice, and if we do, what would that make us? Perhaps the largest 3rd world, tin pot dictatorship "banana republic" which I don't want you to think is an ethnic slur; I have lots of friends from banana republics, really! the world has ever seen, except with a shiny coat of gloss over the rot that lies underneath. I sincerely hope and pray my family never has to live in such a country we should be more like the enlightened nations of Cuba or Venzeuala. If we decide not to prosecute and punish the torturers, I fear the United States of America we all know and love except repuplicans who don't love America...they just don't! will cease to exist and devolve into a despotic regime that knows no bounds, with no moral or ethical compass not to be confused with Obama's absolute disregard for contractual law.

I have a 3 year old daughter not aborted either...I know! I'm shocked too! who not long from now, will be entering school. Am I going to have to try and explain in the near future that what is described in her sanitized history book is not true assuming the public schools are actually able to teach her how to read between showing of An Inconvenient Truth and condom unfurling demonstrations? That it's a whitewash at best or an outright fabrication at worst? There is no way I will be able look into her eyes and tell her anything but the truth about what we are living through at this present moment in history as I also lecture her about how it was my right to pierce her skull and siphon her brains well into the 9th month of gestation. And after I tell her that truth, how am I supposed to respond if/when she asks "daddy, does this mean they can come take us away and torture us too?" because when it comes to child-like fears, I too am paralyzed. My God not that I believe in God, I just like to sound urgent the last thing I would ever want to have to do is to tell her that awful truth should we fail at this moment in time to do what is right and just. How do you explain to your child that our own government is free to carry out such atrocities with impunity? I suppose I could douse her in gasoline and suspend her over a thousand foot precipice to offer her the same choice given to the people on 9/11 unless she's willing to throw water on my face to make me stop but I hate analogies

And yes, I can hear the naysayers now or are they just the voices in my head? I dunno but I think my blood-sugar is getting low. "We have such big problems right now, the economy, unemployment, health care etc. on the table, do we really need to pursue this now?" The short and simple answer is, yes, we do. Believe me, I'm a simple working man albeit more simple than working and I am being battered and bruised by the economy and cost of health care too, but all the economic recovery in the world isn't worth a plug nickel if it comes at the price of killing our Democratic Republic albeit all democrats and no republicans by allowing these criminals to go free and live above the law they consulted heavily. Surely we can recover the economy and pursue justice at the same time because we liberals know how to take a gum and chew walk at the same time.

I also know without a doubt that prosecuting and punishing those responsible for these atrocities will no doubt cause significant political repercussions and upheaval. No doubt, the pundits and politicians from the Republican right will scream "partisan witch hunt" and worse in relation to any such prosecutions, in spite of the ironic fact that they are the ones who impeached President Clinton over a mere tryst can you believe some people are so stupid as to think it was ever about perjury?. Don't let them sway you, gentlemen, because if it is one thing you have demonstrated since taking office it is CONSISTENCY!...oh, wait what's right and just must be done in spite of their incessant and irrelevant howling. Mr President, as a candidate you stood up and stared them in the eye and called them out on their hyperbolic spin, half-truths and outright fabrications not to be confused with your aforementioned campaign rhetoric. As President, I have no doubt you can do the same in that face of any opposition you and Attorney General Holder will encounter in this matter even if it makes you look like a bigger moron you already are and kneecaps your every socialist scheme.

Mr President, Mr Attorney General, please, please don't let the people responsible get away with this and thank God, Nancy Pelosi is as irresponsible as they come, I beg of you. For the future of our Nation and for our future generations, please investigate, arrest, prosecute and punish those involved in illegal torture its pretty cool how I assumed the verdict and simply listed the rest of the process for mere show, huh?, up to and including former President Bush and former Vice President Cheney.Should we fail to do so, then may God help us all and by God I mean the state of inner enlightenment we each achieve within his own being...except for republicans.

Sincerely

L M
Tulsa Oklahoma