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War with Iraq?
« on: June 10, 2008, 06:31:46 PM »
I figure most people here probably think we should have went in. Should we stay? Why or why not? I was for staying until stabilization, but I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home, so I think we should go home.

Thoughts?
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2008, 08:18:26 PM »
They don't want us to go home. 

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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM »
I figure most people here probably think we should have went in. Should we stay? Why or why not? I was for staying until stabilization, but I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home, so I think we should go home.

Thoughts?

Some legislators undoubtedly do want us to leave.  I'd wager their in the pockets of Iran.  I know President Bush declared that when Iraq asked us to leave, we would.  I'm not sure what the requirements for that our, but I would rather that it came from the actual citizens in a vote or something of the like first.  It's been proven that we can't exactly trust their government just yet.
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 08:55:23 PM »
I can't help but wonder what will happen after we do leave. How long will it be until they ask for us to comeback? There may be a betting pool for that subject!

It's my personal opinion that we need to make sure the job is done right or else Iraq will turn into the Eight Circle of Hell all over again for most of the people living there. I believe that if we could make rebuilding work in Japan and Germany after World War II then it's possible for it to work in Iraq.
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008, 08:58:26 PM »
We are at war with Iraq?   :o

I didn't know that!  I guess I learn a little something every day. 

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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2008, 09:01:43 PM »
Surprise!!!!  :lmao:
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2008, 09:08:52 PM »
I figure most people here probably think we should have went in. Should we stay? Why or why not? I was for staying until stabilization, but I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home, so I think we should go home.

Thoughts?

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2008, 09:12:06 PM »
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I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home,

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so I think we should go home.

Which is why people like you who change their mind like the wind aren't the type of people we need handling foreign policy and matters of national defense.
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2008, 09:19:23 PM »
I figure most people here probably think we should have went in. Should we stay? Why or why not? I was for staying until stabilization, but I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home, so I think we should go home.

Thoughts?

How utterly naive of you. 

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2008, 09:24:11 PM »
We leave now and it'll take maybe...an hour or so until the Iraqi Legislature begs us to return. Some of them may not want to admit but we've done a damn good job at keeping that country from descending into total anarchy. That may be a bit of a stretch but I thought it was a good point to bring up.
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2008, 09:32:34 PM »
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I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home,

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so I think we should go home.

Which is why people like you who change their mind like the wind aren't the type of people we need handling foreign policy and matters of national defense.

Since we are at war with Iraq, would it not be a foredrawn conclusion they want us to leave?  Why didn't Poland ever think to just ask?     

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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2008, 09:34:15 PM »
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I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home,

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so I think we should go home.

Which is why people like you who change their mind like the wind aren't the type of people we need handling foreign policy and matters of national defense.

Since we are at war with Iraq, would it not be a foredrawn conclusion they want us to leave?  Why didn't Poland ever think to just ask?     

I'm not sure. Maybe they tried but it got lost in translation or something to that effect. Instead of the message saying 'We want you to leave!' it got mistranslated as 'Stay as long as you like!'
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2008, 09:34:57 PM »
They don't want us to go home. 

Not what I'm reading. Up to seventy percent want it.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/

And the majority of legislators in Iraq want a withdrawal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/05/majority-of-iraqi-legisla_n_105427.html
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2008, 09:36:39 PM »
We are at war with Iraq?   :o

I didn't know that!  I guess I learn a little something every day. 

When terrorist killing is no longer a part of everyday life in Iraq and when troops stop dying over there, I'll take the idea back.

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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2008, 09:38:14 PM »
I figure most people here probably think we should have went in. Should we stay? Why or why not? I was for staying until stabilization, but I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home, so I think we should go home.

Thoughts?

How utterly naive of you. 

Why?

I agree if it's an article with nothing to back itself up with, but they apparenly have Iraqi legislators to back up their ideas. Our government supported this government coming into existence. To say they don't know what they're doing is like saying we don't know what we're doing.
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2008, 09:38:37 PM »
They don't want us to go home. 

Not what I'm reading. Up to seventy percent want it.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/

And the majority of legislators in Iraq want a withdrawal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/05/majority-of-iraqi-legisla_n_105427.html

Lanie I don't mean to offend you but I'd be wary of quoting something off of HuffPo
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2008, 10:08:01 PM »
We are at war with Iraq?   :o

I didn't know that!  I guess I learn a little something every day. 

When terrorist killing is no longer a part of everyday life in Iraq and when troops stop dying over there, I'll take the idea back.



It isn't an idea.  It is misinformation being spouted as if it is common knowledge.  We are not at war with the nation of Iraq and you and I and the rest of the world know it.  To pretend we are for the sake of some liberal bullshit ideology is ridiculous and a perfect example of why intelligent people know liberalism is a dishonest air castle held afloat by lies and purposeful deception.

The reality is that the various military currently involved in Iraq are there at the request of the Iraqi government.  There are indeed a few radicals inside the Iraqi government who are not working towards the best interest of their nation. 

Of course, it is these radical to whom liberals adhere themselves to in order to perpetrate the liberal desire to slander and condemn anything and everything done by the United States of America.  Freedom and liberalism are not compatible, so the USA must be destroyed by attacking every fiber of its fabric.  Liberalism really is a mental illness. 

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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2008, 10:17:22 PM »
They don't want us to go home. 

Not what I'm reading. Up to seventy percent want it.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/iraq-parliament/

And the majority of legislators in Iraq want a withdrawal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/05/majority-of-iraqi-legisla_n_105427.html

Lanie I don't mean to offend you but I'd be wary of quoting something off of HuffPo

why?
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2008, 10:21:48 PM »
We are at war with Iraq?   :o

I didn't know that!  I guess I learn a little something every day. 

When terrorist killing is no longer a part of everyday life in Iraq and when troops stop dying over there, I'll take the idea back.



It isn't an idea.  It is misinformation being spouted as if it is common knowledge.  We are not at war with the nation of Iraq and you and I and the rest of the world know it.  To pretend we are for the sake of some liberal bullshit ideology is ridiculous and a perfect example of why intelligent people know liberalism is a dishonest air castle held afloat by lies and purposeful deception.

The reality is that the various military currently involved in Iraq are there at the request of the Iraqi government.  There are indeed a few radicals inside the Iraqi government who are not working towards the best interest of their nation. 

Of course, it is these radical to whom liberals adhere themselves to in order to perpetrate the liberal desire to slander and condemn anything and everything done by the United States of America.  Freedom and liberalism are not compatible, so the USA must be destroyed by attacking every fiber of its fabric.  Liberalism really is a mental illness. 

It is folks like you, Bridget, who would have been, if fate was more kind, born in Russia around 1895.       

I think as long as we are in a situation where people are trying to shoot at and bomb our people in Iraq everyday, and as long as there are people using violence to get power back, then there is a war over there. Currently, we are not fighting Iraq as a nation (so maybe I did word that wrong), but it's still a war. And it will be a war with the nation of Iraq if the government there says we need to leave and we don't.
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2008, 10:35:09 PM »
144 Shiites signing a bill, that was drafted by Muqtada Al-Sadr and who are loyal to the 11 Iranian Shiite imans, out of 275 is not "70%". It's roughly 52%.
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2008, 10:56:44 PM »
I figure most people here probably think we should have went in. Should we stay? Why or why not? I was for staying until stabilization, but I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home, so I think we should go home.

Thoughts?

Some legislators undoubtedly do want us to leave.  I'd wager their in the pockets of Iran.  I know President Bush declared that when Iraq asked us to leave, we would.  I'm not sure what the requirements for that our, but I would rather that it came from the actual citizens in a vote or something of the like first.  It's been proven that we can't exactly trust their government just yet.

Hell... I don't even trust our own government.  But I suspect that if a majority of the Iraqi legislators asked us to leave, we would.
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2008, 11:08:26 PM »
I figure most people here probably think we should have went in. Should we stay? Why or why not? I was for staying until stabilization, but I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home, so I think we should go home.

Thoughts?

We'll go home when we're done. Enough for you?
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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2008, 11:09:20 PM »
I figure most people here probably think we should have went in. Should we stay? Why or why not? I was for staying until stabilization, but I recently read an article stating that some Iraqi legislators want us to go home, so I think we should go home.

Thoughts?

How utterly naive of you. 

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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2008, 11:12:03 PM »
Why?

I agree if it's an article with nothing to back itself up with, but they apparenly have Iraqi legislators to back up their ideas. Our government supported this government coming into existence. To say they don't know what they're doing is like saying we don't know what we're doing.


Tell ya what, toots, visit Iraq. Then come back and tell us what the PEOPLE want. Not what you read in some ****ing leftist article or Shi'a in the pockets of Iran say. Cool?

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Re: War with Iraq?
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2008, 12:17:29 AM »
144 Shiites signing a bill, that was drafted by Muqtada Al-Sadr and who are loyal to the 11 Iranian Shiite imans, out of 275 is not "70%". It's roughly 52%.

If you're right, that would still be a majority.
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