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A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« on: May 26, 2012, 10:04:26 AM »
I have some questions for you to post on a board that welcomes questions about Objectivism.  Feel free to post your own revised version of these questions.  If you wish to, then of course I cannot prevent you from linking back here to explain what motivated you to post the questions.  However, I don't provide my moral sanction.  I am hoping that it's possible to get answers to the questions themselves, regardless of how people might feel about things that I have written in the past.

Questions:

1.  Is Goldbach's conjecture "arbitrary" in the same sense that the assertion "God exists" is said to be "arbitrary"?

2.  Is it possible for there to be evidence supporting the claim that Goldbach's conjecture is true?  Alternatively, do the following four cases exhaust all possibilities?  
A. Goldbach's conjecture is known to be true,
B.  Goldbach's conjecture is known to be false,
C. There is no evidence supporting the claim that Goldbach's conjecture is true, and no evidence supporting the conjecture that Goldbach's conjecture is false
D. There is evidence supporting the conjecture that Goldbach's conjecture is false

If you aren’t interested in how (other) Objectivists or students of Objectivism might answer the above questions, then please nevertheless check back later.  I intend to post additional questions (on other topics, but for Objectivists) in this thread.
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 10:06:23 AM »
I like pie!

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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 10:09:13 AM »
How about cake?

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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 10:10:03 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on May 26, 2012, 10:06:23 AM
I like pie!
Could you please provide an example of how your contribution to this thread is connected with the substance of the first post in this thread?
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2012, 10:13:58 AM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 26, 2012, 10:04:26 AM
I have some questions for you to post on a board that welcomes questions about Objectivism.  Feel free to post your own revised version of these questions.  If you wish to, then of course I cannot prevent you from linking back here to explain what motivated you to post the questions.  However, I don't provide my moral sanction.  I am hoping that it's possible to get answers to the questions themselves, regardless of how people might feel about things that I have written in the past.

Questions:

1.  Is Goldbach's conjecture "arbitrary" in the same sense that the assertion "God exists" is said to be "arbitrary"?

2.  Is it possible for there to be evidence supporting the claim that Goldbach's conjecture is true?  Alternatively, do the following four cases exhaust all possibilities?  
A. Goldbach's conjecture is known to be true,
B.  Goldbach's conjecture is known to be false,
C. There is no evidence supporting the claim that Goldbach's conjecture is true, and no evidence supporting the conjecture that Goldbach's conjecture is false
D. There is evidence supporting the conjecture that Goldbach's conjecture is false

If you aren’t interested in how (other) Objectivists or students of Objectivism might answer the above questions, then please nevertheless check back later.  I intend to post additional questions (on other topics, but for Objectivists) in this thread.

Are you working on a thesis or something?
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 10:14:35 AM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 26, 2012, 10:10:03 AM
Could you please provide an example of how your contribution to this thread is connected with the substance of the first post in this thread?
Please describe what yours has to do with pie.
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2012, 10:15:58 AM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 26, 2012, 10:10:03 AM
Could you please provide an example of how your contribution to this thread is connected with the substance of the first post in this thread?


What do you have against pie?
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 10:19:37 AM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 26, 2012, 10:10:03 AM
Could you please provide an example of how your contribution to this thread is connected with the substance of the first post in this thread?


Why do you hate

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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 10:20:14 AM »
OCCU-PIE!
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 10:23:32 AM »
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 10:25:41 AM »
BTW, you posted this in the wrong forum.

Your new name shall be...



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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2012, 10:29:50 AM »
Quote from: Skul on May 26, 2012, 10:14:35 AM
Please describe what yours has to do with pie.
If I could do that, then I think that I would be able to answer my own question.  Are you suggesting that the connection would be a directed connection from the substance of the first post in this thread to the topic of pie, and not vice versa?  I intended to make no such assumption.
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2012, 10:32:19 AM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on May 26, 2012, 10:13:58 AM
Are you working on a thesis or something?
I think that what I am working on belongs in the "or something" category.  I am puzzled about why the opposition, in this thread, to the first post of the thread involves playing the cards so close to the chest.  Neither pie nor cake is a hint.  What is the objection if there is one?
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2012, 10:32:42 AM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 26, 2012, 10:29:50 AM
If I could do that, then I think that I would be able to answer my own question.  Are you suggesting that the connection would be a directed connection from the substance of the first post in this thread to the topic of pie, and not vice versa?  I intended to make no such assumption.


Go have some pie. The answer will come to you.
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2012, 10:33:00 AM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 26, 2012, 10:29:50 AM
If I could do that, then I think that I would be able to answer my own question.  Are you suggesting that the connection would be a directed connection from the substance of the first post in this thread to the topic of pie, and not vice versa?  I intended to make no such assumption.
I'd rather just talk about pie.
Why do you hate pie?  :???:
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2012, 10:38:11 AM »
Quote from: Skul on May 26, 2012, 10:33:00 AM
I'd rather just talk about pie.
Why do you hate pie?  :???:

I been hungry for a blueberry pie lately.
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2012, 10:44:10 AM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on May 26, 2012, 10:38:11 AM
I been hungry for a blueberry pie lately.

Now a blueberry pie is living in my head. Gonna have go to town!



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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2012, 10:45:13 AM »
Quote from: Big Dog on May 26, 2012, 10:44:10 AM
Now a blueberry pie is living in my head. Gonna have go to town!





That looks good Hi5
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2012, 10:48:01 AM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on May 26, 2012, 10:45:13 AM
That looks good Hi5

Back atcha for putting it in my head!
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2012, 10:49:27 AM »
(Looking around)

Where'd he go?

Guess some folks just don't like pie. :shrug:
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2012, 10:53:18 AM »
Quote from: Big Dog on May 26, 2012, 10:49:27 AM
(Looking around)

Where'd he go?

Guess some folks just don't like pie. :shrug:

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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2012, 11:03:02 AM »
I could tell he was a pie-hater, right from the gitgo. Heathen.
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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2012, 11:06:08 AM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 26, 2012, 10:10:03 AM
Could you please provide an example of how your contribution to this thread is connected with the substance of the first post in this thread?


It got your attention.  :-)

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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2012, 11:07:44 AM »
Quote from: redwhit on May 26, 2012, 10:09:13 AM
How about cake?



I like pie better than cake, but many pieces of cake have been consumed by me.  :-)
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I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: A challenge to lurking Objectivists and/or students of Objectivism
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2012, 11:11:22 AM »
Quote from: Skul on May 26, 2012, 11:03:02 AM
I could tell he was a pie-hater, right from the gitgo. Heathen.

Yup. Like my old grand-dad used to say, "You can't trust a man who don't like pie".


My old grand-dad, who loved him some pie


Also Old Grand-Dad, can be found in pecan pie
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