Texas Law Challenged After Man Allegedly Forces Daughters to Watch 'Hardcore Por

[Ptarmigan]

I don't know how many of y'all are old enough to remember or paid attention to the various child molestation charges being brought on individuals and couples that ran daycares during the early 90s. It caught my attention because I had a daughter in pre-school at the time. Most of those charged were exonerated because the children fabricated lies with the facilitation of certain psychologists. Some were even pardoned afterwards because it was proved that the children were manipulated. That said, how do we know that something similar isn't going on here??

I have heard of the child molestation cases against day cares in the 1980s to 1990s. I think this what caused the fear of sex predators. Some of them involved allegation of Satanism. These children were never molested. I suspect this was because the prosecutor needed votes and wanted to be seen as tough on crime. Also, the detectives in the case are just as bad. The prosecutors and detectives should be prosecuted and for the prosecutor should be disbarred.

I don't know the content of the porn in question. If it was child pornography, that is really illegal.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I've stated my opinion several times. You're apparently too dense to be able to grasp my ideology. I know........ let's ban the reading of the bible by minors because it contains pornographic writing. Or perhaps, we should ban computers, video games, TV shows, movies, music, concerts, books and the like because they contain pornographic images/ concepts/ ideas. Or perhaps, we could write the law where it allows the minor's parent(s) to decide?? People make bad decisions from time to time. Do we need a "LAW" to prevent that?? Hardly.

This dovetails with the overuse of "zero tolerance" laws at schools wherein Cub Scouts are expelled for dining implements and young soldiers stricken from yearbooks for militant displays.

The letter of the law becomes a shield for those too scared to judge the spirit of the law.

If we are too feeble minded a people to judge matters on their merit and context maybe we do not deserve freedom. Anyone who cannot tell the difference between a man trying to titillate minor children vs. a child reading Song of Songs vs. a child accidently stumbling upon the video mommy and daddy made on their wedding night should not be entrusted with matters of law or a voice in society as a whole.

I cannot imagine under what context the OP can be explained/justified in a society that has for centuries abhorred the sexualization of minor children.

[Daisy]

If the law is an ass, change the law...

[Celtic Rose]

If the law is an ass, change the law...

Bingo.  There have been numerous bad laws throughout history, and once society realizes that the law is bad they either clarify it or change it.  Showing a kid a scientific sex education video is vastly different to exposing them to hardcore pornography.  A child accidentally stumbling on daddy's movies is not the same as daddy purposely showing them to the kid.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

If the law is an ass, change the law...

I would argue this is the essence of the Constitution, peace be upon it.

[Thor]

I cannot imagine under what context the OP can be explained/justified in a society that has for centuries abhorred the sexualization of minor children.

I have no clue as to why a person would want to subject their children to such garbage. That is why there are other venues for pursuing some sort of legal and/or disciplinary actions against the father. Was what the father did "normal"?? Hardly. Was it acceptable?? Definitely not. I, too, even question as to WHY he would do a thing like that. I would have never even given consideration to showing my 8 or 9 year old daughter porn.

As far as the sexualization of minors, that's been going on for a few decades. I think it started with the movie, "The Exorcist". Brooke Shields was another young lady that was sexualized at an early age.(Her Calvin Klein commercial and the movie,"The Blue Lagoon") It's been downhill ever since, which MAY be a cause for the increased pedophilia we have been seeing over the last couple of decades. I'm no psychologist or psychiatrist, but it makes sense to me. I think we can parallel that to the "in your face" homosexuality as of late. It's only becoming worse. HGTV seems to be promoting the homosexual lifestyle with their House Hunters and shows of the same genre. It seems that almost every show as of late has been showing gay partners either buying, renovating or selling a house. I don't like it one bit,. It seems the more we're exposed to something, the more people tend to accept it as "normal".

[thundley4]

It goes back farther than that. What about the Nabokov book Lolita?  Probably even farther back than that.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Thor, Thundley:

I agree. We do seem to be in danger of becoming a society of Roman Polanskis.

[Thor]

It goes back farther than that. What about the Nabokov book Lolita?  Probably even farther back than that.

Well, hell........ it used to be that even in THIS country, 13 and 14 year old girls were getting married and having babies. I always thought it was weird that a teenaged girl would marry someone 20 years or more older than themselves. In the Middle East, what was the youngest age?? Eight?? :clueless:

[IassaFTots]

It goes back farther than that. What about the Nabokov book Lolita?  Probably even farther back than that.

I immediately thought of Taxi Driver.  I remember all the hubbub about that, and Tess of the D'Ibervilles, with Nastassia Kinksi (sp?)  I remember vividly my parents sending me to my room when they watched both.  I also remember I wasn't allowed to watch Love, American Style either. 

[thundley4]

Well, hell........ it used to be that even in THIS country, 13 and 14 year old girls were getting married and having babies. I always thought it was weird that a teenaged girl would marry someone 20 years or more older than themselves. In the Middle East, what was the youngest age?? Eight?? :clueless:

Earlier in this country and in others, it was accepted that a girl became a woman when she had a period, or was near that age.  It had more to do with how long people lived more than being pedophiles. IMO

[Ptarmigan]

Well, hell........ it used to be that even in THIS country, 13 and 14 year old girls were getting married and having babies. I always thought it was weird that a teenaged girl would marry someone 20 years or more older than themselves. In the Middle East, what was the youngest age?? Eight?? :clueless:

Also, life expectancies were much lower back than because of infectious diseases. Also, many babies died at birth, including the mother. In Asia, if a baby lives to 100 days, it is celebrated because of babies often dying. They still do to this very day. The youngest to ever be pregnant was 5 years old. Yes, 5 years old.

[Ptarmigan]

It goes back farther than that. What about the Nabokov book Lolita?  Probably even farther back than that.

Some cultures the sexual mores are far loser than in America, like Japan and Sweden.

[vesta111]

Some cultures the sexual mores are far loser than in America, like Japan and Sweden.

Yup Ptar, Give me the BBC Chanel, Some how the Britt's manage with their comedy shows, Benny Hill for one, to place outrageous sexual  innuendos  that can be taken 3 different ways in their skits---They let the viewer decide how they wish to take the joke. 

The Japanese today have very high morals, at least the men are enough of a gentleman to keep his mistress hidden.

Ah those Swede, interesting life they have.  All men and woman feel they must live up to their repudiation around the world.

 ER. a thought---duck--  When I think Swed, I envision of both sexes being over 6' tall, blond, blue eyed and a tanned body. Reality says that this is in no way true.

So what are their morals and how are they any different then ours ?

Even Amsterdam is trying to slow down the sex trade.

You know, up the coast of Maine Canadian tourists flocked to every summer. The money came pouring in from our Northern visitors.   -----Problem, the French Canadian women were use to being on beaches top less.

The year round residents complained about not being able to take the kids to the beach as they may see a boob here or there GASP---

Finally the town council passed on to another generation and laws about female top less actions were enacted.

Result was for the French to go else where to spend their money.  The town was hurting for money when the Gay population found it and this beach is now the place to go, Fire Island is so crowded.

The residents now cannot take their kids to the beach, for fear what they may hear or see that could lead to more questions for the parents.

Just can't seem to win when it comes to sexual morals.

[thundley4]

The Japanese today have very high morals, at least the men are enough of a gentleman to keep his mistress hidden.

Um, yeah, about that.  Have you ever heard of tentacle porn?  How about selling panties in vending machines?  How about most of their anime that has well developed girls in short skirted school uniforms?

[NHSparky]

Um, yeah, about that.  Have you ever heard of tentacle porn?  How about selling panties in vending machines?  How about most of their anime that has well developed girls in short skirted school uniforms?

Amen to that.  Some of the freakiest shit I ever saw, out in public in Japan.

[Ptarmigan]

Um, yeah, about that.  Have you ever heard of tentacle porn?  How about selling panties in vending machines?  How about most of their anime that has well developed girls in short skirted school uniforms?

In Japan, they have omarashi, a fetish that involves wetting yourself on purpose. They do it for sexual pleasure. It is commonly depicted in anime and manga and they even have a game show for that in which people hold their full bladder until they wet themselves on TV.

[vesta111]

In Japan, they have omarashi, a fetish that involves wetting yourself on purpose. They do it for sexual pleasure. It is commonly depicted in anime and manga and they even have a game show for that in which people hold their full bladder until they wet themselves on TV.

   

If you dudes had left the dock area and gone inland you would have seen a totally different world.

Yes some family's to this day sell their daughters but half the world does that to this day in one way or another.

Lots of knowledge to be gained from other cultures, some we laugh at, some we yell out in dispair at.     I wonder what they think of us ???