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How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« on: December 13, 2011, 03:17:35 PM »
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How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
Because a certain segment of the population still connects marriage equality with being able to marry anyone and/or thing you want. It's kind of messed up that this still needs to be explained.

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I don't know about y'all, but I am all for gay rights now.  All it took was for some clever liberal to call me an idiot!

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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 03:37:15 PM »
Whose job is it to decide if Adam is really capable to make his own decisions?

He's passed up Evelyn in order to take it up the rear. To most this is outside the norm and reflects on his ability to make decisions.

If he stood naked on a railroad track clucking like a chicken while a train was coming would he still be capable to make is own decisions?

Does there ever come a time when I, and the majority of others, are allowed to question Adam's ability to make his own decisions? OR are we to be forced to agree with Adam as long as he's taking it up the rear? Why is Adam not forced to agree with us, the majority, instead of us being forced to agree with him?

I'm just curious. Steve can bang Adam's butt like a drum all day long as far as I'm concerned... As long as they do it in private and I'm not forced to agree with it.
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 04:04:21 PM »
I don't see how that amounts to any kind of refutation that polygamy and polyandry between any number of consenting adults should become completely legal under the same rationale as gay marriage.
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 04:34:41 PM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on December 13, 2011, 03:37:15 PM
As long as they do it in private and I'm not forced to agree with it.

Agree with it?  To them we'll be haters until we endorse that lifestyle. 
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 04:36:34 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on December 13, 2011, 04:04:21 PM
I don't see how that amounts to any kind of refutation that polygamy and polyandry between any number of consenting adults should become completely legal under the same rationale as gay marriage.

Or incest for that matter.
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2011, 04:46:12 PM »
If Adam wants to take it up the rear, you all have to take it up the rear, America.

Ain't that the jest of the gay agenda?
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 05:04:33 PM »
The culture has an active interest in Adam and Evelyn.  Adam and Evelyn will produce offspring and the culture can be assumed to last another generation.


Adam and Steve?  Statistically, they'll be dead soon.  They won't leave any offspring.  Their's is the path of death and desolation for a culture.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 05:22:25 PM »
That has got to be one of the most overly simplistic and stupidest things Will has ever posted and based on Will's past that is saying a lot.
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 05:33:46 PM »
OK, I think it was on "The Doctors" or the "Dr. OZ" show today that I caught a few minutes of....They had a brain specialist on that showed MRI's of the heterosexual male brain, the homosexual male brain, the heterosexual female brain and the homosexual female brain....bunch of innerconnected mumbo-jumbo-blah-blah-blah explanation of why they are queer...they got the wrong brain.

Ok, so why not scan them in the womb and abort the homosexuals...what's wrong with that if a woman chooses not to have a homosexual, right? It's a woman's choice, right? Liberals are all for aborting kids that are not headed for a stellar life, right? Liberals believe abortion is a tool to solve social ills, right? So why not,right?

Watch the liberal position on abortion do a 180 now.
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 06:00:28 PM »
I bet the same Sir William the Pittiful would also tell us how it is the Government's job to tell us as citizens what we can and cannot do, regardless if the person is 'capable of making their own decisions'

A) Obamacare.
B) Taxation without Representation
C) Tobacco
D) Alcohol
E) Dietary Decisions

And a crapload of other things Democrats want to do to 'protect us from ourselves'

So - you need to pick a side, Pitt - is it the government's right, or isn't it ?
 
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 06:10:36 PM »
Quote from: miskie on December 13, 2011, 06:00:28 PM
I bet the same Sir William the Pittiful would also tell us how it is the Government's job to tell us as citizens what we can and cannot do, regardless if the person is 'capable of making their own decisions'

A) Obamacare.
B) Taxation without Representation
C) Tobacco
D) Alcohol
E) Dietary Decisions

And a crapload of other things Democrats want to do to 'protect us from ourselves'

So - you need to pick a side, Pitt - is it the government's right, or isn't it ?
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2011, 08:09:38 PM »
Quote from: Vagabond on December 13, 2011, 05:04:33 PM
The culture has an active interest in Adam and Evelyn.  Adam and Evelyn will produce offspring and the culture can be assumed to last another generation.


Adam and Steve?  Statistically, they'll be dead soon.  They won't leave any offspring.  Their's is the path of death and desolation for a culture.

I think Vagabond says it the best.
To me it is all about personal, sexual preference...
Homosexual couples know that they cannot have a joint IRS 1040, The union/marriage whatever is only recognized/toloerated, accepted in a handful of states. Why not just live together, do what you want in the privacy of your bedroom and stfu.
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 08:32:57 PM »
Easy quesion:  If it's Constitutional, then why hasn't it been practiced since the US Constitution was ratified?

And saying it was Constitutional from day one but was not something that was an acceptable practice by the citizens of this country up until recently is not a satisfactory answer.

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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 09:35:03 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on December 13, 2011, 08:32:57 PM
Easy quesion:  If it's Constitutional, then why hasn't it been practiced since the US Constitution was ratified?

And saying it was Constitutional from day one but was not something that was an acceptable practice by the citizens of this country up until recently is not a satisfactory answer.

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It's in the good and plenty clause. Same place that gives the feds the power to tax the rich.
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 06:46:04 AM »
Quote from: Vagabond on December 13, 2011, 05:04:33 PM
The culture has an active interest in Adam and Evelyn.  Adam and Evelyn will produce offspring and the culture can be assumed to last another generation.

Adam and Steve?  Statistically, they'll be dead soon.  They won't leave any offspring.  Their's is the path of death and desolation for a culture.

Ding ding, we have a winner.

What is the rationale for government being involved in the regulation of a relationship between two people? If it is merely about the two of them, then there is none - society's interest (and thus the rationale for government involvement) is merely in the perpetuation of society into the future.
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 08:15:36 AM »
Gay rights have nothing to do with society and its traditions that kept humans from dieing out.

All this is is about is SEX, they say ,they have the right to screw anything that they can out run.

If gays want to be recognised then they can march down to the court house and sign over powers of attorneys to each other.   Make out wills in behalf of their partner.

 Even heterosexual married  folks must be married at least 10 years to get Death benefits from SS.  [unless children have been concieved in a lesser time frame.]

Gay demands have nothing to do with Sex, it is all about money, putting a partner on their health insurance at work, insuring if death happens to a sex partner that they can claim their SS after the death of a partner.  OK, so there are ways to protect themselves, one partner can adopt the other, one partner can legally change their last name to that of their partner.

Then if one or both partners have had  children, they can insure the children of the deceased partner cannot come in and demand the survivors estate.   

We are being misdirected by the SEX thing, the Gays want to collect from insurance company's and the government and retirement funds for themselves.

I wonder how divorces are handled, child custody, and splitting funds and property is among the Gay married.

No one has the RIGHT to sex, or marriage.   To say so places people in bondage to the law.   One cannot remarry without a divorce from a former spouse,   inconvenient if one is gay, inconvenient if one is heterosexual.

The choice of sex partners has nothing to do with Rights, Incest and Rape of Animals now can be put to the test.

Guess I am a total idiot when it comes to sexual rights-----, when do we lower the age of concent to 8 years old ???
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 08:28:26 AM »
Quote from: vesta111 on December 14, 2011, 08:15:36 AM
Gay rights have nothing to do with society and its traditions that kept humans from dieing out.

All this is is about is SEX, they say ,they have the right to screw anything that they can out run.

If gays want to be recognised then they can march down to the court house and sign over powers of attorneys to each other.   Make out wills in behalf of their partner.

 Even heterosexual married  folks must be married at least 10 years to get Death benefits from SS.  [unless children have been concieved in a lesser time frame.]

Gay demands have nothing to do with Sex, it is all about money, putting a partner on their health insurance at work, insuring if death happens to a sex partner that they can claim their SS after the death of a partner.  OK, so there are ways to protect themselves, one partner can adopt the other, one partner can legally change their last name to that of their partner.

Then if one or both partners have had  children, they can insure the children of the deceased partner cannot come in and demand the survivors estate.   

We are being misdirected by the SEX thing, the Gays want to collect from insurance company's and the government and retirement funds for themselves.

I wonder how divorces are handled, child custody, and splitting funds and property is among the Gay married.

No one has the RIGHT to sex, or marriage.   To say so places people in bondage to the law.   One cannot remarry without a divorce from a former spouse,   inconvenient if one is gay, inconvenient if one is heterosexual.

The choice of sex partners has nothing to do with Rights, Incest and Rape of Animals now can be put to the test.

Guess I am a total idiot when it comes to sexual rights-----, when do we lower the age of concent to 8 years old ???

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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 09:59:13 AM »
Typical Liberal condescending bullshit.

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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 10:06:21 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2011, 10:14:45 AM »
I don't believe in ignore.  You might miss something good.  Anyway, Vesta makes a good point. 
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2011, 10:30:08 AM »
Quote from: vesta111 on December 14, 2011, 08:15:36 AM
Gay rights have nothing to do with society and its traditions that kept humans from dieing out.

All this is is about is SEX, they say ,they have the right to screw anything that they can out run.

If gays want to be recognised then they can march down to the court house and sign over powers of attorneys to each other.   Make out wills in behalf of their partner.

 Even heterosexual married  folks must be married at least 10 years to get Death benefits from SS.  [unless children have been concieved in a lesser time frame.]

Gay demands have nothing to do with Sex, it is all about money, putting a partner on their health insurance at work, insuring if death happens to a sex partner that they can claim their SS after the death of a partner.  OK, so there are ways to protect themselves, one partner can adopt the other, one partner can legally change their last name to that of their partner.

Then if one or both partners have had  children, they can insure the children of the deceased partner cannot come in and demand the survivors estate.   

We are being misdirected by the SEX thing, the Gays want to collect from insurance company's and the government and retirement funds for themselves.

I wonder how divorces are handled, child custody, and splitting funds and property is among the Gay married.

No one has the RIGHT to sex, or marriage.   To say so places people in bondage to the law.   One cannot remarry without a divorce from a former spouse,   inconvenient if one is gay, inconvenient if one is heterosexual.

The choice of sex partners has nothing to do with Rights, Incest and Rape of Animals now can be put to the test.

Guess I am a total idiot when it comes to sexual rights-----, when do we lower the age of concent to 8 years old ???

H5 Vesta!
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2011, 10:31:04 AM »
I love how you guys are all for small government, except when it's to deny people basic human rights or to shove your fairy tales...I mean religion...down people's throats.
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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2011, 10:34:33 AM »
Quote from: No Limit on December 14, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
I love how you guys are all for small government, except when it's to deny people basic human rights or to shove your fairy tales...I mean religion...down people's throats.

The gay lobby wants to shove their sexuality down our throats.  Turnabout is fair play.
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Re: How To Explain Gay Rights To An Idiot
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2011, 10:36:55 AM »
Really? Gay people asking for a simple right to marry each other is shoving their sexuality down your throat? Please, explain this logic of yours to me in greater detail, I am intrigued. Are you saying that if gay people are allowed to marry you will have no choice but to become gay yourself?
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