http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6297774It's way too early, but I'll take primitive misery any time.
Seen the light (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:09 PM
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Nate Silver sees major Republican gains in Congress next year
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/08...
PITTSBURGH — It's fast becoming conventional wisdom, but statistics wonk Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com reiterated that Democrats should be nervous about the 2010 midterm elections. "I don't think you should feel at all comforted by 2010," said Silver. The political prognosticator predicted a 20- to 50-seat loss in the House for the Democrats and either a one-seat gain or as much as a six-seat loss for the Democrats in the Senate. This comes from the same numbers guru who called the presidential election results correctly in 49 states. "Don't be complacent about 2010," Silver warned bloggers and activists attending the Netroots Nation conference in Pittsburgh.
It goes on to say that President Obama is still looking just fine for 2012.
I've been monitoring state polls lately and they have not been too kind to Democrats. Chris Dodd is not doing that hot. Arlen Specter has been crashing in the polls lately. Blanche Lincoln has had a poll come out this week that didn't look that hot which is very surprising. On the governor side, I know Deval Patrick is showing a lot of weakness right now.
Anyway, what do you think of this?
I think it's way too early, but if it makes the primitives wretched, I'm all for it.
47of74 (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:12 PM
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3. Well, maybe if Reid and Pelosi would grow some halfway decent spines
We wouldn't have as much trouble.
And hopefully that one seat gain will be from Grassley finally being defeated.
It's all the more reason to stop this bi-partisan horseshit and get to work.
hwmnbn (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:12 PM
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4. We voted for real change...we've gotten chump change.
Yeah, we got a chump all right.
polichick (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:13 PM
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6. Ignorant bullies score over smart weaklings in America - something Dems don't seem to get.
WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:13 PM
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7. It's a reflection of the timidity
If they were bold, there would be no problems.
Their timidity will kill them.
Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:14 PM
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9. It makes me think that apparently the general voter continues to fall for nonsense and scare tatics.
Death panels? Kenyan fraud?
This country is more than circling the drain. We've plummeted directly down the drain and are quickly working our way to the sewer faster and faster by the minute.
I fear for this country.
TxRider (146 posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:54 PM
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31. Not really
What your seeing is independents switching back due to the high spending and deficit soaring.
Like it or not, both parties have to court independents, as they decide the elections now.
Obama did a brilliant job of swinging them to his side in the election, but the bills rammed through are driving independents away.
Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 07:05 PM
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36. The ramming of what bills?
I'm quite curious as to what you're referring to.
Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 07:14 PM
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37. Right-wing talking point.
"Ramming" through what bills, exactly? I'd like to know that myself.
KamaAina (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 07:30 PM
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43. I don't know what "your" seeing, but what I'm seeing is the right-wing noise machine fouling the air 24/7 again, now actually resorting to brownshirt tactics at these town halls, and as usual, people falling for it.
BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:17 PM
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12. I say..If this batch of Democrats don't pull together and do whats right, Lets...
...get a site and movement going to throw the spineless bastards out.
elocs (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:33 PM
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22. Republicans seem to know how to pull together toward a common goal.
Democrats seem to stake out their own turf to the exclusion of working together toward a common goal. Will Rogers had it right: "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:35 PM
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24. Ignorant, mindless hordes are easier to manipulate...
elocs (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:41 PM
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27. "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."
Ben Franklin said that. What about that is difficult to understand? Or did Franklin believe the other Founding Fathers were ignorant, mindless hordes?
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:20 PM
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13. Nate is right, and at this point it is a self inflicted wound
I would not be too shocked if one chamber is lost either.
Call me Cassandra, go ahead, but as long as dems don't stand for anything (perceptions here, out there in them streets) this will continue to happen.
deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-13-09 06:23 PM
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14. Big news here. The minority party always gains in the next election ater a presidential election.
Yawn.
