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Offline tuolumnejim

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EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« on: August 13, 2009, 02:36:27 PM »
So should someone email the turd, I mean third head DUmmie with the page numbers that refute his crap?

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EarlG ADMIN  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-13-09 07:25 PM
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8 FACTS AND 8 MYTHS ABOUT HEALTH CARE REFORM -- let's help this go viral, DU 
 Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 07:28 PM by EarlG
David Axelrod sent out this information today and wants it to go viral. Let's get this spread far and wide. Send it out to your email lists.

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8 WAYS HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM PROVIDES SECURITY AND STABILITY TO ALL AMERICANS

1. Ends Discrimination for Pre-Existing Conditions: Insurance companies will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical history.

2. Ends Exorbitant Out-of-Pocket Expenses, Deductibles or Co-Pays: Insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much they can charge for out-of-pocket expenses.

3. Ends Cost-Sharing for Preventive Care: Insurance companies must fully cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you prevent illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

4. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for those who become seriously ill.

5. Ends Gender Discrimination: Insurance companies will be prohibited from charging you more because of your gender.

6. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies will be prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.

7. Extends Coverage for Young Adults: Children would continue to be eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

8. Guarantees Insurance Renewal: Insurance companies will be required to renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full. Insurance companies won't be allowed to refuse renewal because someone became sick.

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8 COMMON MYTHS ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM

1. It's a myth that reform will mean a "government takeover" of health care or lead to "rationing." To the contrary, reform will forbid many forms of rationing that are currently being used by insurance companies.

2. It's a myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the President has identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs by cutting waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs; ending big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with such steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long term, reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a fiscal crisis.

3. It's a malicious myth that reform would encourage or even require euthanasia for seniors. For seniors who want to consult with their family and physicians about end-of life decisions, reform will help to cover these voluntary, private consultations for those who want help with these personal and difficult family decisions.

4. It's a myth that health insurance reform will affect veterans' access to the care they get now. To the contrary, the President's budget significantly expands coverage under the VA, extending care to 500,000 more veterans who were previously excluded. The VA Healthcare system will continue to be available for all eligible veterans.

5. It's a myth that health insurance reform will hurt small businesses. To the contrary, reform will ease the burdens on small businesses, provide tax credits to help them pay for employee coverage and help level the playing field with big firms who pay much less to cover their employees on average.

6. It's myth that Health Insurance Reform would be financed by cutting Medicare benefits. To the contrary, reform will improve the long-term financial health of Medicare, ensure better coordination, eliminate waste and unnecessary subsidies to insurance companies, and help to close the Medicare "doughnut" hole to make prescription drugs more affordable for seniors.

7. It's myth that reform will force you out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors. To the contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them.

8. It is an absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts. Health insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and more convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just like paying a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or by a direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they will be easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules of privacy will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people make.

 
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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 02:43:05 PM »
It's official...Health INSURANCE Reform.

Who do they think they're going to fool by putting lipstick on this pig?
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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2009, 02:48:45 PM »
Now that it is out, those talking points will be refuted quickly by those that have read the bill, and they'll be able to provide quotes from the bill itself.

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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2009, 03:04:37 PM »
It's official...Health INSURANCE Reform.

Who do they think they're going to fool by putting lipstick on this pig?

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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2009, 03:05:39 PM »
It's official...Health INSURANCE Reform.

Who do they think they're going to fool by putting lipstick on this pig?

Well, it's fairly clear they can't call what they are doing a "Health care program" without laughing.  Since 'Reform' is Democrat code-word for screwing it up royally and piling on the pork like a ten-dollar barbecue sandwich, the title is about as descriptive as you can really expect from the lying SOBs.
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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2009, 03:20:48 PM »
This one made me laugh.

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2. It's a myth that reform will bust the budget. To the contrary, the President has identified ways to pay for the vast majority of the up-front costs by cutting waste, fraud, and abuse within existing government health programs; ending big subsidies to insurance companies; and increasing efficiency with such steps as coordinating care and streamlining paperwork. In the long term, reform can help bring down costs that will otherwise lead to a fiscal crisis.

Ok, so the NEW and IMPROVED program will get rid of something that shouldn't have been there in the first place.  Just how is it going to do that??

 :lmao:

These people will believe anything you shovel their way.  Intellectuals ...... HAH!

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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2009, 03:24:14 PM »
More LOL!

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8. It is an absurd myth that government will be in charge of your bank accounts. Health insurance reform will simplify administration, making it easier and more convenient for you to pay bills in a method that you choose. Just like paying a phone bill or a utility bill, you can pay by traditional check, or by a direct electronic payment. And forms will be standardized so they will be easier to understand. The choice is up to you - and the same rules of privacy will apply as they do for all other electronic payments that people make.

Yes, yes, the term 'Red Tape' was invented by people who had to (read forced) use a private industry for something! 

What a bunch of bull shit.

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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2009, 03:31:47 PM »
This just makes the whole comment that Obama made about Fed Ex and UPS being better then the Postal Service even worse.

Does the government tell Fed Ex and UPS how much money their allowed to make?  How much their allowed to charge to ship packages?  Yeah, thought not.   :whatever:
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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2009, 03:35:51 PM »
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

If it walks like a donkey and brays like a donkey and smells like a donkey - it's Cold Warrior.  - PoliCon



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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2009, 03:36:57 PM »
Quote from:
4. Ends Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for those who become seriously ill.

6. Ends Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Insurance companies will be prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.

Even Medicare doesn't do that, and it's going broke.

Here's the truth of how it should read.

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4. Dropping of Coverage for Seriously Ill: Government will drop or water down care for those who become seriously ill.

6. Annual or Lifetime Caps on Coverage: Government will place annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.

Medicare does these things.  Anyone who believes this will be better than Medicare is a complete idiot.

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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2009, 03:37:08 PM »
Does the government tell Fed Ex and UPS how much money their allowed to make? 

Not yet.  But give them time.  It won't be just the investinment executives that will be told by the President how much they can make.
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2009, 03:50:27 PM »
It's hard to imagine anyone of high school age or older who would see this as anything but socialism.

If all the prohibitions and requirements listed in the DUmmy's post were placed on the insurance industry,
the cost would end the medical insurance business, leaving us all to the mercy of the jug-eared Kenyan's commissars.

That is the objective, just as they want to end heavy industry, investment banking, commercial food production,
and private transportation.

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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2009, 04:42:22 PM »
So, for the same premiums as a $5,000 deductable policy, Obama says you'll get Cadillac coverage with no outta pocket expenses to you.

....and Ben and Jerry are going to sale their best ice cream for 10 cent a gallon.
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Re: EarlG spreading misinformation for the zero
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2009, 05:03:24 PM »
Liberals are like Slinkies...

Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.