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Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« on: November 15, 2008, 07:07:49 AM »
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I am completely at a loss here are to why the Messiah will not release a simple birth certificate.   After what they put McCain through on the same topic (to which he cooperated fully), it makes no sense at all -- no matter how you look at this -- why they aren't just making him turn it over.

Bizarre. 

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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 09:04:19 AM »
Kind of ruins the whole "first black president" thing if his birth cert says "Caucasian".
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 09:08:42 AM »
Kind of ruins the whole "first black president" thing if his birth cert says "Caucasian".

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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 10:53:48 AM »


I can't see this going very far.  I wish it would but you know it won't.
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 08:05:16 PM »
Kind of ruins the whole "first black president" thing if his birth cert says "Caucasian".

I think you may have nailed it to the wall, there, young lady.

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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2008, 08:10:44 PM »
Will it make a difference?  His Congress will merely pass a resolution declaring him a citizen.  After all, if Congress Critters aren't above the law, who is?  ::)
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 08:17:15 PM »
Will it make a difference?  His Congress will merely pass a resolution declaring him a citizen.  After all, if Congress Critters aren't above the law, who is?  ::)
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2008, 11:05:53 PM »
This brings the tally to what? About 17 similar lawsuits in 12 states?

It would be easy for Obama to prove his citizenship.  The fact that he doesn't infers that he does indeed have something to hide.
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 10:28:48 AM »
Will it make a difference?  His Congress will merely pass a resolution declaring him a citizen.  After all, if Congress Critters aren't above the law, who is?  ::)

So long as the Constitution trumps Congress - or the Executive or Judicial branches of the Federal gub'mint - they can pass unconstitutional resolutions until they're blue in the face and it don't matter a tinker's damn.  The moment the will of 535 lords and ladies is allowed to trump the Constitution, we as a nation - individually and collectively - are ****ed.
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 12:17:19 PM »
Well, as the various links indicate - even if The Messiah ponies up his birth certificate (as factcheck.org points out, he did cough it up back in June) - he's a mere citizen, as opposed to a natural born citizen.

The Messiah's father was Kenyan and since Kenya was a British possession/colony/center of the universe due to The Messiah's birth at the time of The Messiah's birth, Obama Sr. and his children were subject to that law. Uh...I guess that would include The Messiah even though He apparently walks on water.

Just because Obama was born in Hawaii does not a natural born citizen make. He enjoys dual citizenship, which, according to the lawsuits, blogs, and the flurry of words in lots of locations, is a showstopper.

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 03:49:56 PM »
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Just because Obama was born in Hawaii

If indeed he was.
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 04:06:30 PM »
Just so y'all are aware, there is a grass roots movement to see this Obama birth certificate thing through: http://www.democratic-disaster.com/index.php
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2008, 05:07:04 PM »
If indeed he was.

Hmmm. Is there some claim that The Messiah was born someplace else other than Hawaii? If so, I've not read it and I've done a fair amount of research on this issue.

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 05:13:44 PM »
Hmmm. Is there some claim that The Messiah was born someplace else other than Hawaii? If so, I've not read it and I've done a fair amount of research on this issue.



Der Fuhrer's grandmother was purported to have said at a fund raiser or somesuch that she was there in the hospital in Nairobi when her daughter gave birth to the Messiah.  Whenever it's come up since then, an Obama flak has been quick to say that the old lady misspoke, but there was no refutation of the words by the grandmother herself.

I haven't seen corroberating evidence to justify this, but it's yet another "controversy" which would be shot right down by Der Fuhrer giving the USSC his Long Form birth certificate like he's been ordered to.
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2008, 05:47:08 PM »
Der Fuhrer's grandmother was purported to have said at a fund raiser or somesuch that she was there in the hospital in Nairobi when her daughter gave birth to the Messiah.  Whenever it's come up since then, an Obama flak has been quick to say that the old lady misspoke, but there was no refutation of the words by the grandmother herself.

I haven't seen corroberating evidence to justify this, but it's yet another "controversy" which would be shot right down by Der Fuhrer giving the USSC his Long Form birth certificate like he's been ordered to.

I think there is some question as to wheather this is on their docket or not.

But to disavow his assention to the throne now would cause mass riots among his followers .....so the powers that be will probably let him slide even if he isn't a natural born citizen.l
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2008, 05:51:22 PM »
I think there is some question as to wheather this is on their docket or not.

But to disavow his assention to the throne now would cause mass riots among his followers .....so the powers that be will probably let him slide even if he isn't a natural born citizen.l

I'd say there would be a pretty safe bet that there will be rioting if they do allow someone who was not a natural born citizen to take that office.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2008, 06:11:42 PM »
I'd say there would be a pretty safe bet that there will be rioting if they do allow someone who was not a natural born citizen to take that office.

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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2008, 06:12:53 PM »
I'd say there would be a pretty safe bet that there will be rioting if they do allow someone who was not a natural born citizen to take that office.

I don't think they would burn cities and kill like the Obama followers would.
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2008, 07:01:38 PM »
I don't think they would burn cities and kill like the Obama followers would.

No................I believe if it was found and shoved under the rug that a President is there illegally a defacto revolution would be started.......................where it goes is in the eye of the beholder
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2008, 10:35:56 PM »
IF Obama is found to be not qualified for office, it would be a great disservice to this country. Of course, the Obama-ites will riot. They can't grasp the concept of right & wrong. After all, the end justifies the mean, in their eyes.  If it's proven that Obama is not qualified and they let him slide on the issue, I would HOPE that the righteous would stand up and do what's necessary.
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2008, 10:07:49 AM »
I think there is some question as to wheather this is on their docket or not.

But to disavow his assention to the throne now would cause mass riots among his followers .....so the powers that be will probably let him slide even if he isn't a natural born citizen.l

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Barack Obama taking center seat in the Oval Office as someone Constitutionally inelligible for the position may seem like a small thing, but the damage that one simple act does in undermining the Constitution and in opening the doorway for further usurpation of that authority is unmeasurable.  If he is determined to be invalid for the position, and that determination starts another civil war, then perhaps another civil war is what this country needs, because anyone who would seat an invalid "president" over the absolute prohibition of the Constitution is no friend to the Constitution, is no friend to this country or her people, and is no friend to me. 

Many of you here are military men and women, who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies - foreign and DOMESTIC; how does such a person not qualify in the most straightforward of terms as an enemy to the Constitution? If such a person can be allowed to undermine the authority of the Constitution in this little thing, what is the difference between this little thing and the bigger thing later?  What break is it that prevents the bigger usurpation, when the little usurpation has already been allowed?

I will not tolerate this.  If the President Elect can prove he is a 'natural borne' citizen of this country - as he has been UNWILLING to do thus far - I will shut up, and raise no more question of his legitimacy to the office he's been elected to.  I won't like it, and I will still oppose any further usurpation of Constitutional authority by him during the next 4 years, but he will be the properly elected President of the UNited States in my eyes and in my actions.

If however, he is elevated to the elected office without this issue settled positively, for all to see, then the United States government as the Constitution has defined it, died with the close of President Bush's administration, and I from here forward declare my eternal, undying emnity to that despotic tyranny that has replaced it, and any who stand to support it.
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2008, 10:42:24 AM »
Nice speech....I like it.....but who among us is willing to take him out, because it's for certain, he and his followers will not go quietly into the night.

Think about it. If you were to take him out violently, your wife and kids, heck your  whole extended family will be in danger for many years to come.

I'd say tie it up in court to the point he's so weak as a president that he has to get 'Shell to hold his pecker up to piss.

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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2008, 10:44:27 AM »
Two words:

President Biden

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That's why nothing will come of this lawsuit in my opinion.
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Re: Keyes files in CA -- put up the birth certificate Messiah
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2008, 10:47:25 AM »
Two words:

President Biden

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That's why nothing will come of this lawsuit in my opinion.

At least Biden would have the advantage of being legitimately entitled to the seat.  And the Constitution's authority wouldn't be undermined.
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2008, 10:50:23 AM »
If Obama was sworn in and then found to be ineligible to hold office, would would that make Biden President, or would it create a constitutional crisis? After all, Obama would not have been a duly elected President.