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Hate crimes/racism
« on: March 25, 2012, 07:57:29 AM »
There's been national and DUmp outrage at what could end up being a legitimate self-defense shooting. It's been called a hate-crime. It's been called racism. Personally, I don't know at this time because I haven't seen all of the evidence. While listening to the 911 tapes on youtube I stumbled across a story from last month that I had not heard anything about. Apparently two black teens poured gasoline on a 13 year-old white kid and set him on fire while saying, "you get what you deserve, white boy." This took place in Kansas City, MO.

Doesn't the DUmp have members in or near Kansas City, MO? Why haven't they mentioned this story? I don't know any details about this story other than what is in the link posted below, but if it is indeed a real and accurate story where is their outrage and cries of racism over this attack?

The link to the news story is here: link
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 08:16:19 AM »
Evil Conservative brought the story to our GD forum at the time. Since then we have learned:

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Other white students also report a pattern of racial harassment at the high school at the hands of their peers — and, shockingly, their teachers.

Two of these victims were the twin 14-year-old daughters (first names withheld upon request) of Karin Wildeisen. Ever since their family relocated from Texas, they had endured racial animosity in the Kansas City school system and inappropriate behavior by staff, which included teachers laughing while boys humiliatingly manhandled the girls and a teacher slapping one of them on the backside. But there was far worse to come.

The twins started coming home and talking about the goings-on in an advanced-English class taught by a teacher Wildeisen identifies as Ms. Veda Monday. Wildeisen said that her daughters told her, “There are four white kids in the class; they are being targeted racially.” They said that Monday, who is black, was feeding the class racial material, about which Wildeisen notes, “She’s teaching advanced English; she has no reason to be teaching civil rights.”

But then there was the straw that broke the camel’s back. One day, Monday allegedly showed an explicit film involving portrayals of whites lynching blacks and then, reports ex-Texan Wildeisen, “in front of the class attacked my daughters, telling them that ‘everybody from Texas is ignorant rednecks’” and that all white people were “responsible for Jasper because [their] skin is white.” This reference is to an atrocity in Jasper, TX, in which three white men murdered a black man in 1998.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/was_boy_in_kc_fire_attack_a_victim_of_his_schools_racist_teaching.html

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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 08:27:01 AM »
There's been national and DUmp outrage at what could end up being a legitimate self-defense shooting. It's been called a hate-crime. It's been called racism. Personally, I don't know at this time because I haven't seen all of the evidence. While listening to the 911 tapes on youtube I stumbled across a story from last month that I had not heard anything about. Apparently two black teens poured gasoline on a 13 year-old white kid and set him on fire while saying, "you get what you deserve, white boy." This took place in Kansas City, MO.

Doesn't the DUmp have members in or near Kansas City, MO? Why haven't they mentioned this story? I don't know any details about this story other than what is in the link posted below, but if it is indeed a real and accurate story where is their outrage and cries of racism over this attack?

The link to the news story is here: link

Shame on you, you missed their outrage:



And here's their outrage about the elderly couple killed in Oklahoma last week by someone who's black

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And here's their outrage about 10 people being killed last weekend in Chicago

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And here's their outrage about over 100 people being killed so far this year in Chicago

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And here's their outrage about 94% of blacks murdered and being murdered by fellow blacks

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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 08:35:37 AM »
Shame on you, you missed their outrage:



And here's their outrage about the elderly couple killed in Oklahoma last week by someone who's black

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And here's their outrage about 10 people being killed last weekend in Chicago

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And here's their outrage about over 100 people being killed so far this year in Chicago

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And here's their outrage about 94% of blacks murdered and being murdered by fellow blacks

:whistling:

Damn. I guess I owe the DUmp an apology. They did get all worked up over. Five posts worth of worked up. And based on the post titles it looks like two of the five were basically calling the story BS.

Way to stay true to yourself DU! You racist bastards.
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 08:38:11 AM »
Damn. I guess I owe the DUmp an apology. They did get all worked up over. Five posts worth of worked up. And based on the post titles it looks like two of the five were basically calling the story BS.

Way to stay true to yourself DU! You racist bastards.

Here's the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002386401

Notice that 3 of the respondents basically say that "something isn't sitting right with them about this story"!
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 08:40:45 AM »
Oh, and here's another link to a thread on the little boy set on fire:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101468228

this 1 has 2 replies and 1 of the 2 replies is locking the thread and sending people to the above listed link.

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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 08:44:30 AM »
Oh, and here's another link to a thread on the little boy set on fire:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101468228

this 1 has 2 replies and 1 of the 2 replies is locking the thread and sending people to the above listed link.



So out of the 100 million DUers (or whatever made-up number they are claiming as members now) only 4 DUers had any sympathy for a little white boy that was set on fire. Am I counting that correctly?
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 08:49:38 AM »
Oh, and here's another link to a thread on the little boy set on fire:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101468228

this 1 has 2 replies and 1 of the 2 replies is locking the thread and sending people to the above listed link.



This is one of the many reasons I could never be a Democrat, there is always a litmus test before opinion is applied, and justice is delivered. In the real world, when something is right, its right, and when something is wrong, its wrong. Not so with a Democrat. The first questions are 'who did the action affect, and how did it affect the person(s) involved ?' - And from there they draw their conclusions.


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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 08:53:08 AM »
So out of the 100 million DUers (or whatever made-up number they are claiming as members now) only 4 DUers had any sympathy for a little white boy that was set on fire. Am I counting that correctly?

I would hope that more had sympathy for the little boy set on fire but in their politically correct world? they have to remain silent.
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 08:54:25 AM »
This is one of the many reasons I could never be a Democrat, there is always a litmus test before opinion is applied, and justice is delivered. In the real world, when something is right, its right, and when something is wrong, its wrong. Not so with a Democrat. The first questions are 'who did the action affect, and how did it affect the person(s) involved ?' - And from there they draw their conclusions.

I think Democrats get pamphlets telling them what they can and can't be outraged about.
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2012, 09:06:44 AM »
I think Democrats get pamphlets telling them what they can and can't be outraged about.

Perhaps -

And it isn't just matters of crime and punishment either - its everything.

Example :

Person X just won the lottery. An 'Evil Rethug' responds with 'good for them' and maybe jokes about the winner being willing to share.

A Democrat wants to know who Person X is, and makes up their mind based on race, sex, politics, education etc. Examples:

Person X is ;

A 'poor black woman' - 'good for her, she has lived a life of hardship and deserves it'

A 'rethug male' - ' I hope they tax the bejeesus out of him, and redistribute that ill gotten wealth to those who deserve it'

An 'uneducated redneck moran' - ' Stupid ass will probably drink himself to death on it - good. '

A 'fundie' - 'Great, he is gonna make the church even richer with that money. we need to end tax exemptions for churches now'

A 'liberal educator' - 'Awesome ! s/he can use that money to bring knowledge to stupid rednecks, and maybe setup a few scholarships for minorities'

Etc etc etc.

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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2012, 09:09:39 AM »
Perhaps -

And it isn't just matters of crime and punishment either - its everything.

Example :

Person X just won the lottery. An 'Evil Rethug' responds with 'good for them' and maybe jokes about the winner being willing to share.

A Democrat wants to know who Person X is, and makes up their mind based on race, sex, politics, education etc. Examples:

Person X is ;

A 'poor black woman' - 'good for her, she has lived a life of hardship and deserves it'

A 'rethug male' - ' I hope they tax the bejeesus out of him, and redistribute that ill gotten wealth to those who deserve it'

An 'uneducated redneck moran' - ' Stupid ass will probably drink himself to death on it - good. '

A 'fundie' - 'Great, he is gonna make the church even richer with that money. we need to end tax exemptions for churches now'

A 'liberal educator' - 'Awesome ! s/he can use that money to bring knowledge to stupid rednecks, and maybe setup a few scholarships for minorities'

Etc etc etc.

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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2012, 09:35:33 AM »
Here's the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002386401

Notice that 3 of the respondents basically say that "something isn't sitting right with them about this story"!

This was interesting,
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4. I hope they get charged with hate crime

while black on white crime like this are more rare they're no less hateful.

It started off good by admitting this is what is known as a hate crime, however by the end a total falsehood, black on white crime is not more rare by any means. There is just more media coverage when a white person does something bad to a minority.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2012, 02:44:18 PM »
All crimes are motivated by hate. Why do we need hate crime laws?  :???:
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2012, 03:11:23 PM »
Black on white crime is rare? What a fn idiot! Look at FBI stats, DUmbass. Blacks create crime more than any other race, and it's extremely disproportionate in terms of their percentage of the population.
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2012, 03:17:39 PM »
Black on white crime is rare? What a fn idiot! Look at FBI stats, DUmbass. Blacks create crime more than any other race, and it's extremely disproportionate in terms of their percentage of the population.

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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2012, 04:13:52 PM »
The worst thing about hate crimes legislation is it presumes to know what's in another person's mind. It makes some crimes worse than others based on WHO the crime was committed against rather than the severity of the crime itself. A white guy shoots a black guy because of a drug deal gone bad. He ends up in  the hospital but lives. Wouldn't have mattered what color the 2 men were, because it had nothing to do with race. BUT if some liberal DA gets his panties in a wad it suddenly becomes a hate crime. A couple has a fight and a white guy beats the crap out of his white girlfriend and she dies from the injuries. Not a hate crime. Heck, the white guy from the drug deal might even serve more time even though the viciousness & hatred of the latter crime is palpable. Too bad the girlfriend wasn't black...we'd have a twofer.

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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2012, 04:49:58 PM »
Hate crimes are all based on Critical Race Theory. What you have heard about CRT, it is worse.
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2012, 05:07:23 PM »
Here's the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002386401

Notice that 3 of the respondents basically say that "something isn't sitting right with them about this story"!

Which is DUmmy-ese for, "Let's just pretend Karl Rove made it up and ignore it. It doesn't fit with with our narrative".

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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2012, 05:11:17 PM »
Which is DUmmy-ese for, "Let's just pretend Karl Rove made it up and ignore it. It doesn't fit with with our narrative".

Remember, these are the idiots that think the Black Panthers are Republicans.
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2012, 05:26:27 PM »
Remember, these are the idiots that think the Black Panthers are Republicans.

OMG! seriously?
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2012, 06:18:49 PM »
OMG! seriously?

It was in a post on DU. It was brought over here, IIRC, yesterday.
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2012, 06:41:06 PM »
It was in a post on DU. It was brought over here, IIRC, yesterday.

OMG!

Yeah, the Black Panthers were wielding bats to make sure McCain won! ::)
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2012, 07:16:32 PM »
OMG!

Yeah, the Black Panthers were wielding bats to make sure McCain won! ::)

Like Mamma Boucher said, with one word change, "they don't exactly have tha logical skills".
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Re: Hate crimes/racism
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2012, 07:40:45 PM »
The OP asked if DU has any Kansas City members.  Sure, there is Proud2BLib - a KCMISD teacher.  She has been quiet about this and other KC school news.  Probably because KCMISD is a thread away from state takeover.  The MO lege is debating their future now.