Anyone upset about food stamps is scum

[Wineslob]

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Anyone upset about food stamps is scum
First, food Stamps are an agricultural subsidy, so it's stupid to blame the poor for them. (Farm state senators have always worked to keep the program strong.)

Second, and more importantly, what kind of psycho objects to giving people food?
The usual complaint is that assistance to the poor does NOT go for food. Some people give the homeless food instead of change because they don't want their charity spent on booze or cigarettes, but only on FOOD.

All the 1980s anti-food stamp rhetoric was about people misusing foodstamps. They sell them for a dime on the dollar to buy crack. They work scams to use them to buy cigarettes. Etc.. Nobody would object to actually giving people food...

But now the RW has gotten so degenerate that they actually begrudge people FOOD, straight up.

Don't give that poor person food! She'll probably just eat it.

How about.....  **** you.


I do, asshole. When food stamp people can buy more and better food than me, and I've seen it personally, we got a real problem in this country.

[67 Rover]

I've never had foodstamps and don't have an idea how the EBT card actually works, but I've learned a few things from someone that gets them.  First, she gets stamps for 2 people, herself and her daughter.  They get $400 a month, and can easily feed themselves and the baby-daddy for $300 a month.  (of course, she shops carefully, the buy basics and cook at home, and sometimes "borrow" milk or other items from the kid's grandmother.)  Because they can spare $100 a month, she uses that money for $50 in other things.  That's "how it works."  She buys $100 worth of groceries for someone and gets $50 cash back to use for whatever they want.  (Usually cigarettes and beer.) 

Now, this would bother me a lot more if the parents were both worthless bums.  As is, I don't care for the baby-daddy much, we've known this couple for quite a while and have never seen him keep a job for more than a few weeks...but he does do odd jobs as he can find them to put gas in the car and pay some bills.  But the mother is a full-time college student, so I can see helping them out until she graduates and gets a job.  And, of course, in this wonderful Obamaconomy, jobs are very scarce around here...

I am not sure about other states but in Mass you can use an EBT card at the pumps!  They actually have stickers at the Hess gas stations proudly proclaiming that. 

I recall a story out of Maine recently where a pair of super geniuses used an EBT card to buy cases of designer water only to dump the contents out in the parking lot to then return the empty's for the cash.

[MrsSmith]

I am not sure about other states but in Mass you can use an EBT card at the pumps!  They actually have stickers at the Hess gas stations proudly proclaiming that. 

I recall a story out of Maine recently where a pair of super geniuses used an EBT card to buy cases of designer water only to dump the contents out in the parking lot to then return the empty's for the cash.

As far as I know, in Kansas it only buys food.  I'm sure I'd have heard about it if they could run it for anything else.

[TVDOC]

As far as I know, in Kansas it only buys food.  I'm sure I'd have heard about it if they could run it for anything else.

I'm pretty sure you are right......same here in MO, however you can buy non-food essentials like toilet tissue, soap, toothpaste, laundry detergent, etc. with it.

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[sybilll]

Do they have Virgin Mobile in your area? You can get a phone for around $50 and $35 will get 300 minutes and unlimited texts.

I meant a cellphone package that includes data use for the internet.  I compared them all. 

[Freeper]

I meant a cellphone package that includes data use for the internet.  I compared them all.  

Virgin mobile includes data for the internet at $35. I use them and I'm grandfathered under the $25 plan, I get unlimited data on my recently purchased smart phone. Granted I don't get the "free" phones this way, but I figure shelling out $80 for a phone and having a monthly bill of $25 is worth it.

It's not a contract either, it's prepaid. For some reason prepaid is now a better deal than contracts, it used to be the other way around.

[sybilll]

Virgin mobile includes data for the internet at $35. I use them and I'm grandfathered under the $25 plan, I get unlimited data on my recently purchased smart phone. Granted I don't get the "free" phones this way, but I figure shelling out $80 for a phone and having a monthly bill of $25 is worth it.

It's not a contract either, it's prepaid. For some reason prepaid is now a better deal than contracts, it used to be the other way around.

Great info, much thanks.  Gotta love what the free market is doing to the pricing.  My daughter locked in to her plan (2years) in Nov 2010, and seriously, not one plan was less than $80/month.   

[MrsSmith]

Great info, much thanks.  Gotta love what the free market is doing to the pricing.  My daughter locked in to her plan (2years) in Nov 2010, and seriously, not one plan was less than $80/month.   

My daughter has a StaightTalk cell phone, prepaid, $50 a month.  She spent $200 on her phone, but she can connect it to her PC and use it as a modem, unlimited data.  She takes classes online, and doesn't have to pay to have an internet service.

[Ballygrl]

I meant a cellphone package that includes data use for the internet.  I compared them all.

We've used pre-paid cellphones for about 10 years now, my husband is with Tracfone and I switched to Net10 because they had a better selection of phones. Net10 is awesome, I usually buy minutes when I need them, I'm not a big cellphone user so that works for me, but Net10 has some great packages and 1 of them is their unlimited plan, for $50 a month you get unlimited calls, texts and web, they also have an awesome selection of phones, I have the Net10's version of the Blackberry which is the LG 900G, and because Tracfone and Net 10's browser stinks, if you use the newer phones like my LG or the new Droid phones they have? you can download as an APP either Bolt or Mini-Opera, I downloaded both and I can go anywhere on the web, I've even posted on this board from the phone. It's really a great deal and I get reception everywhere.

Here's their plans:

https://www.net10.com/direct/Purchase?payGo=true

You just put in your zip code and this will tell you what phones will work in your area:

http://www.net10.com/redirect_landing.jsp

[Ballygrl]

My daughter has a StaightTalk cell phone, prepaid, $50 a month.  She spent $200 on her phone, but she can connect it to her PC and use it as a modem, unlimited data.  She takes classes online, and doesn't have to pay to have an internet service.

Yep! and StraightTalk is part of the Tracfone/Net10 network.

[Freeper]

Great info, much thanks.  Gotta love what the free market is doing to the pricing.  My daughter locked in to her plan (2years) in Nov 2010, and seriously, not one plan was less than $80/month.   

That's how they compensate for the "free" phones that they offer, I would much rather spend $100 or so on the phone and have a smaller monthly bill, (my smart phone was on sale at Best Buy for $79.99), and if for some reason I can't keep paying the monthly, they simply cut off my phone until I can pay, unlike the contract plans if you find you can't pay, they charge you and arm and a leg plus you have no service.

[67 Rover]

Slot machines , beer  and flat screen televisions are also O.K. in Mass. when using an EBT card 



http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1287451&srvc=home&position=comment

[thundley4]

I remember stories of California cards being used in casinos , cruise ships and even in Hawaii.

[seahorse513]

Yep! and StraightTalk is part of the Tracfone/Net10 network.

I have a straight talk phone..it has awesome reception. I was lucky, I got my phone as a Black Friday Special. It ran 35.00 normally like 70.00 and i do 30.00 for my card. I really like it.....

[seahorse513]

You are exactly correct. Ask any Walmart or grocery store cashier about it.

I could tell you horror stories from the front....It's really wierd but EBT customers are the nastiest!!!!

I think Ebt cards should just cover the basics.
Don't get me going.....

[shadeaux]

I saw a woman buy $140 worth of Valentine candy at a Walmart about 12, 13 years ago.  I was not the only one in line with a mouth open and eyes bugging out.

I could not believe it. Can I mention she was Black or is that racist ? 

[seahorse513]

I saw a woman buy $140 worth of Valentine candy at a Walmart about 12, 13 years ago.  I was not the only one in line with a mouth open and eyes bugging out.

I could not believe it. Can I mention she was Black or is that racist ? 

I see people buy Halloween candy with EBT cards. Sometimes I want to give these people a stern lecture about proper use of the EBT card.

[vesta111]

I see people buy Halloween candy with EBT cards. Sometimes I want to give these people a stern lecture about proper use of the EBT card.

SEA, I have no idea what an EBT card is, I wonder if I can get one?

First time I ever saw food stamps was in California at a Military Commissary, I went home and checked out the pay scale for the Military and was amazed at how little our men/woman were being paid in cash or allowances.

Today there are sites where one can send coupons near due date to groups that distributes them to family's that need them and food stamps.  Always been a long, long list for military housing.   

Family's that live OFF base waiting for housing are and were in one heck of a spot.   It was the luck of the draw to get housing and IIRC, those in hazard job with couple kids of different sexes were at the top  of the list.  A 3 bedroom house on government land or base.

Have to realise there was little chance for a Military person to get a second job, or when left alone for months a woman to work while caring for young kids.  The waiting list for cheap and SAFE child care was often a couple years  and civilian child care cost the earth even 30 years ago.

Food stamps and the need for them by Military family's is a disgrace, who would want to work in the civilian sector subject to the pay and absence from family knowing they had a waiting limit to get a raise and a new stripe pinned on them ?  Now I hear the Military is up to no good trying to cut corners with the senior service men/woman by shit canning them when they get just a few years from retirement.

I see nothing wrong with the coupons and food stamps to the family's of those in harms way, gone for 9 months or more, leaving family thousands of miles from home.   The dependents deserve better that to have to be looked down on when shopping at the corner market as they ran out of something.

PISS me off big time, so a Military family has family coming in to see them after 2 years absence and the dependent runs out to a civilian store to buy food with food stamps.   Some idiot sees them buying a fuc*ing bag of shrimp and pays with food stamps.    WTF the civilian may have 30 coupons to take $50.00 off their bill.

Rant, over for the next hour, if the Military cuts benefits to those that need them and worked for them, who are they going to get to defend us,   OH yes I forgot the single Gays, those with no dependents,    Awesome idea.   

Cannot wait to see how woman on Subs will work out, much different from a Skimmer environment. 





 

[BlueStateSaint]

We've used pre-paid cellphones for about 10 years now, my husband is with Tracfone and I switched to Net10 because they had a better selection of phones. Net10 is awesome, I usually buy minutes when I need them, I'm not a big cellphone user so that works for me, but Net10 has some great packages and 1 of them is their unlimited plan, for $50 a month you get unlimited calls, texts and web, they also have an awesome selection of phones, I have the Net10's version of the Blackberry which is the LG 900G, and because Tracfone and Net 10's browser stinks, if you use the newer phones like my LG or the new Droid phones they have? you can download as an APP either Bolt or Mini-Opera, I downloaded both and I can go anywhere on the web, I've even posted on this board from the phone. It's really a great deal and I get reception everywhere.

Here's their plans:

https://www.net10.com/direct/Purchase?payGo=true

You just put in your zip code and this will tell you what phones will work in your area:

http://www.net10.com/redirect_landing.jsp

Bally, I'm going to do exactly that.  I burn minutes like gasoline through a Corvette, and most of it is on texts to other AAers.  I need to switch.  My wife can stay with Tracfone.  She uses her phone to call, and maybe text back to me.  She doesn't really want to learn how to text, and that really pisses me off at times.

[Ballygrl]

Bally, I'm going to do exactly that.  I burn minutes like gasoline through a Corvette, and most of it is on texts to other AAers.  I need to switch.  My wife can stay with Tracfone.  She uses her phone to call, and maybe text back to me.  She doesn't really want to learn how to text, and that really pisses me off at times.

I was a little nervous switching because I was with Tracfone so long but Net10 has been awesome. My husband doesn't care about the cellphone, basically carries it around in case he has to make a call, although I did a slight upgrade for him because he did want a camera phone and for him with Tracfone he gets double minutes for the phone so Tracfone works for him. If I was a big cellphone user I wouldn't hesitate to do the $50 per month unlimited plan through Net10 though.

We were 1 of the earliest customers with Verizon in the 90's when cellphones took off, this was when the phones were like bricks and no way could you access the internet, but I got fed-up paying $89 a month for phones we hardly used, it's much nicer now just adding minutes when you need them and no monthly bills.

[seahorse513]

SEA, I have no idea what an EBT card is, I wonder if I can get one?

Well Vesta, Well it is basically traditional food stamps(looked like monopoly money) in the form of a debit card.
If you financially qualify, you can.

[vesta111]

Well Vesta, Well it is basically traditional food stamps(looked like monopoly money) in the form of a debit card.
If you financially qualify, you can.

Interesting that so many military family's qualify and have qualified for many years.  I would guess it is difficult for a a store worker or civilian to know who the person buying foods with these cards are, civilians or Military.

Many bases have closed down, no more big commissary's for dependents to shop at, or the retired that because of circumstances have to live on just the retirement pay.   They are in some cases living in an area where taxes are high and do actually come in under the food stamp movement.

To lift an eyebrow at a stranger using food stamps is the same as looking weird at people using coupons.   That fat lady with 3 kids may be waiting for hubby to come home from his 3rd. deployment to the Middle East as a ground ponder.

I know next to nothing about food stamps but that our service men and woman need them, such is the pay for serving  and dieing for America.  Hell, some service people that get out of the military have it better, get to stay home, family's are fed and they have no worries about being shot and killed every day they wake up. 

Had a store up the street I went into once with a Ghetto about 3 blocks away.   It was I found out 2 days before food stamps were issued for the month.   Had to have been 6-8 people raising the prices on canned goods and toilet paper.   I though this was just a small operation until I noticed the big chain markets doing the same.

The inner city folks that get the stamps really have no choice where to shop, I know of only one Supermarket in down town DC on Q street.   The poor in other cities are SOOL , they have to shop for food within a few blocks and WOW do they get taken.   

More to food stamps and what ever this new card is, not every poor person is on drugs, the majority are in a hole and every time they try to climb out, some crook comes along and shovels more dirt on them.

As Jesus told Mary Magdalene ----the poor will allways be amongst us-----This when she question Jesus on using expensive oil that could be given to the poor.

MRS.Smith help me out on this, was this in the Bible or a tall tale I heard years ago ???

[Gina]

I am very bitter over the food stamp program.  I never thought I would need something like it but before I got my job we were scraping the bottom of the barrel.  I went behind my hubbies back and applied just for food stamps.  5 people and they told us we made $65 dollars too much.  I asked the woman over the phone if I could "fudge" the number down and she told me that would be fraud.  I mean Really?!!!!  I can't get anything when we were in desperate need of food yet it so easy for others to get it?  $65 bucks people and they denied me when I have paid into that shit since I was 16.  So embarrassed I even told yall.    Don't hold it against me 

[shadeaux]

You should NOT be embarrassed Gina.  At all.

My sister worked full time.  Boyfriend laid off, his teenaged daughter living with them. She went and applied.  Was turned down because she made $27 too much.  She cried.  She asked the lady if she were black would it have made a difference and the lady just looked down.

No one should ever be ashamed to ask for help.  My sister, after trying different avenues finally got the nerve up to call me.  I wished she had called me sooner but she wanted to do it on her own.

We all need help in this life.

[shadeaux]

BTW, if I ever need some help, I will proudly walk in there and ask.

My husband supported this program all these years, I have no problem asking for some of it back.