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Title: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: CC27 on July 12, 2018, 07:41:25 AM
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LuckyCharms (3,223 posts)


If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...

you only have to remember one thing, and one thing only.

The means is to gaslight.

The means is to not make any sense at all.

The goal is to provoke national chaos, therefore eroding our democracy, therefore pleasing Putin.

When you look at it in those terms, every thing ****face is doing makes complete and perfect sense.
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https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210858509

I can see why your profile picture is a weed plant.  No idea wtf you are saying.
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 12, 2018, 07:53:42 AM
"The means" would be the method or path to achieve an end, not the end itself, you pathetic pile of derp. 
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: Mary Ann on July 12, 2018, 07:58:30 AM
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The goal is to provoke national chaos, therefore eroding our democracy, therefore pleasing Putin.
National chaos? Like mobbing people in restaurants and movie theatres? Like harassing customers in bookstores? Like asking paying customers to leave your business establishment? Like Michael Moore threatening to surround the Capitol with a million people to prevent the Senate from doing it's job? Like intimidating female reporters doing their jobs?

Yup. Democracy is eroding, but I think you're blaming the wrong side.
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: SVPete on July 12, 2018, 08:13:34 AM
Could someone translate that word salad? LuckyCharms sounds like (s)he ODed on "edibles".
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: Carl on July 12, 2018, 09:09:30 AM
Where do they get this "gaslighting" notion.

For all my life the term stemmed from an old movie about a man trying to make his wife think she was crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

The closest thing I see is what the DUmp does to itself daily with its endless circular logic,hard loops of fallacy and dedication to everything being a conspiracy against them.
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: Celtic Rose on July 12, 2018, 09:37:29 AM
Where do they get this "gaslighting" notion.

For all my life the term stemmed from an old movie about a man trying to make his wife think she was crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

The closest thing I see is what the DUmp does to itself daily with its endless circular logic,hard loops of fallacy and dedication to everything being a conspiracy against them.

It is a new liberal tactic. Anytime something they don’t like is brought to light, they claim that it is gaslighting, because of course their beliefs can’t be wrong.
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on July 12, 2018, 09:38:46 AM
Gaslighting?  Sounds like a tile on the DUmmy Laydeebug's bingo card.  Haven't noticed that loon recently.
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: SVPete on July 12, 2018, 10:28:36 AM
Gaslighting?  Sounds like a tile on the DUmmy Laydeebug's bingo card.  Haven't noticed that loon recently.

Maybe the Russians got her.
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 12, 2018, 10:52:47 AM
It is a new liberal tactic. Anytime something they don’t like is brought to light, they claim that it is gaslighting, because of course their beliefs can’t be wrong.

Their other recent fave seems to be 'Whataboutism,' any time you point out worse stuff the Dems or their ilk have done or say they want to do.  A recently discovered phenomenon which apparently was unknown until some short time after October of 2016, it's basically their safe word when anyone calls them on their double standards and situational ethics.
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: Old n Grumpy on July 12, 2018, 01:36:32 PM
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The means is to gaslight.

Is that like:
tethering your  chicken or
staying woke  or
beating your meat?

 :stoner:
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...
Post by: Zathras on July 12, 2018, 02:40:13 PM
Well, if the means is not to make any sense at all, then LuckyCharms has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
Title: Re: If your head is spinning, let yourself calm down because...Re: WHAT-ABOUTISM
Post by: Ausonius on July 12, 2018, 03:25:51 PM
"But what about YOUR....blah-blah-blah...?"

Concerning "WhatAboutism" mentioned above...

This is an old debating trick, where the debater does not address the issue directly, but attacks something tangential or even non-tangential supported by the opponent.

e.g.

You: "Abortion is the killing of human beings."

Leftist (talking very fast to prevent you from responding): "But what about the U.S, Military and its drone strikes killing entire families?  You're not making any sense, because you're fine with killing thousands of civilians in warfare, blah-blah-blah..."

To which the response is: "YOU ARE EVADING THE ISSUE!  THIS IS NOT ABOUT WARFARE!"

But the Leftist will then shout that it is precisely the issue and keep babbling to prevent any logical discussion.  I cannot tell you how many times I have gone through this syndrome in the last 5 decades!  :banghead: