Grayson's misleading attack ads

[thundley4]

Techn0Girl (1000+ posts)           Tue Sep-28-10 07:54 PM
Original message
BREAKING : Grayson Team Manipulated the "Taliban Dan" Advertisement
   
Very sad face here :   because I have said time and again how Grayson is one of my Progressive faves .

That "Taliban Dan" video? The one where Grayson berates his political opponent, Republican Daniel Webster, for telling woman that ""Wives submit yourself to your own husband" and then making a rightful comparison from fundamentalism to the Taliban?

Apparently it wasn't true.
Apparently while looking at the entire video what Webster was saying was :
"...I have verses for my wife. Don’t pick the ones that say, ‘She should submit to me.’ That’s in the Bible, but pick the ones that you’re supposed to do. So instead, ‘love your wife, even as Christ loved the Church and gave himself for it’ as opposed to ‘wives submit to your own husbands. ...’

In other words exactly the opposite of what Grayson clipped out of that video.

More at Factcheck.org
http://factcheck.org/2010/09/rep-grayson-lowers-the-bar /

This is especially disappointing to me and I will be eagerly listening to Grayson's response. This is not how I want my Democrats to run a campaign.

We are supposed to be better.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9218580

Supposed to be better at not getting caught is what the DUmmie really means.

ibegurpard (1000+ posts)           Tue Sep-28-10 07:56 PM
Response to Original message
1. oh boo hoo
   
perhaps you should write them a polite strongly worded letter.

Smear ads are fine when your candidate does it, right?

Techn0Girl (1000+ posts)           Tue Sep-28-10 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. There is PLENTY to throw at Webster....
   
Edited on Tue Sep-28-10 08:08 PM by Techn0Girl
as you suggest without needing to resort to doctoring video - as Grayson apparently did.

Why would his campaign do this?
It's going to cost him credibility , credibility that equates to votes this election. And Grayson is right on the fence as it is with respect to voters in heavily Republican Florida.

Frankly I would have reservations about voting for him myself after seeing this. What Grayson says and does with respect to this revelation now may be critical in the eyes of many voters - certainly it would in mine.

I am left dumbfounded as to why Grayson's campaign would shoot themselves in the foot like this when Webster is such an easy target in so very many ways.

Careful, the dough is being tossed.

OHdem10   (1000+ posts)           Tue Sep-28-10 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #8
18. In the scheme of things this is not going to matter a hill of beans.
   
All is fair in Politics especially campaigns.
Grayson is smart enough to move on to the next attack.

Hey Stooooopid DUmmie, Grayson has been caught doing this in two ads so far. All he has is lies and damn lies.

pa28   (1000+ posts)             Tue Sep-28-10 08:06 PM
Response to Original message
7. That low down dirty dog.
   
The Republicans are supposed to use those tactics on us.

Why? The truth is damaging enough, which is why so many Dems are NOT campaigning on what they have "accomplished" under the rule of "The Won".

ibegurpard (1000+ posts)           Tue Sep-28-10 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. these loathsome toads deserve FAR worse than this

Use whatever lies are necessary to smear the opposition. Typical leftist.

Matariki   (1000+ posts)             Tue Sep-28-10 08:14 PM
Response to Original message
19. That kind of crap is indefensible.
   
I like Grayson's straight forwardness and have donated to his campaign. But he's got some 'splainin' to do.

His voting record is good. Why does he have to go and do sleazy shit like this?

Because he is a DemonRat.

[true_blood]

DUmmies and Grayson, they both can take a walk for all I care. They're both fun to laugh at, but that's about it.

[BEG]

Grayson is possibly the worst politician ever, and that is saying something. He is obnoxious.

[skipuno]

Webster should run an ad on Grayson wanting everyone to submit to goverment health care.

[Ballygrl]

Webster should run an ad on Grayson wanting everyone to submit to goverment health care.

Oh I like that!

[JakeStyle]

Grayson is possibly the worst politician ever, and that is saying something. He is obnoxious.

I can't believe he was ever elected to a public office in the 1st place, the guy just comes across as a complete asshole.

[Duke Nukum]

Webster should run an ad on Grayson wanting everyone to submit to goverment health care.

H-5 for that.

[Chris_]

A new poll by Sunshine State News shows Republican Daniel Webster leading Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson by seven points in Central Florida's 8th Congressional District.

http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/blog/poll-obama-dems-poised-lose-grayson-house-seat

Now might be a good time to donate a few dollars to Webster's campaign.

[Wretched Excess]

I can't believe he was ever elected to a public office in the 1st place, the guy just comes across as a complete asshole.

he came in on obamagastic coat tails.  there are a LOT of liberals that are on their way out.

[Karin]

This is soooo disgusting.  What are those Grayson loons thinking?  Trust is a huge issue this year.  Who can you trust to tell you the truth and not blow smoke up your ass all the time?  And then they come out with this crap.  Everything from here on out from Grayson is suspect as a lie.  And it should tar all the demos. 

I was able to easily picture the committee or whatever sitting around a table, coming up with the ad.  Chortling like the DUmmies that they are, so self-congratulatory on their own perceived cleverness.  Aren't we funny!

[jukin]

More bad news for liberal fascists, Webster is up by 7. Wait until the truth comes out about the grayson lying ads.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

ibegurpard (1000+ posts)           Tue Sep-28-10 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. these loathsome toads deserve FAR worse than this

And here is the essence of liberalism.

Liberals complain that RWers are theocratic tyrants but when pressed for evidence all they have are tragically doctored videos.

Then, when confronted with their fraud their only response is, "Well, we all know RWers are worse."

Webster should run an ad on Grayson wanting everyone to submit to goverment health care.

H5 to you, sir.

[AllosaursRus]

Now might be a good time to donate a few dollars to Webster's campaign.

Been there done that! I've donated to every conservative in the fight that's close. It ain't much, but every little bit helps expose these P'sOS!

Grayson doesn't deserve to be a Roto Rooter appointee!

[jukin]

Been there done that! I've donated to every conservative in the fight that's close. It ain't much, but every little bit helps expose these P'sOS!

Grayson doesn't deserve to be a Roto Rooter appointee!

HI5, whatever a local candidate gets is used.  The NRCC/SC not so much.

[Freeper]

Have yall ever noticed the dems have to distort what is said by a conservative to attack them.
A conservative just has to show what a dem actually says to get them.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

JoePhilly (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-29-10 02:32 AM
Response to Reply #40
47. The GOP can falsely claim the left supports terrorists ... no one blinks.

But you do support terorists.

You supported the insurgents in Iraq. The AFL-CIO funded that whore who planned attacks at the 2008 RNC and who met with the recently kiled FARC commander.

Oh, and you voted for Bill Ayers' cabana boy.

If a Dem uses a serrated knife rather than a butter knife, ohhhh no ... I must lie down on the fainting couch!!!!

The right can call the left ANYTHING they want (baby killer, socialist, marxist, on and on) and it NEVER gets questioned ... we NEED to cross the line more ... MUCH MORE ... and force the media to deal with the rhetoric.

But you do kill babies.

You do want to centrally control the economy.

Cowering in fear under our shawl is not working.

Then admit you kill babies and want to centrally control the economy.

Persistence is knowing when to give up.

What?

Matariki  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-29-10 04:26 AM
Response to Reply #51
58. Are you kidding me????
 Editing video of a person to make it look like they said the opposite thing is ****ED. I don't care WHO does it. How the hell can you support that? It's unethical.

 

RetroLounge (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-29-10 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #58
68. Yawn.

I hear Obama is loaning his daughters out for videos with R Kelly to secure the hip-hop vote.

[thundley4]

I hear Obama is loaning his daughters out for videos with R Kelly to secure the hip-hop vote.

Michelle will be a stern "stage mother".

[BEG]

20. Thanks for posting that !
   
I am saddened by his response.
Grayson is entirely correct (in your link) that Webster does have a terrible woman's right's record.

What he doesn't do is own up to his ad and let it be known that it was out of order - an outright lie in point of fact.

Let's see if his response "matures" over the coming days as this makes the media rounds.
Representative Grayson has lost a lot of credibility in my own eyes today.
And I was a huge fan of his here from the beginning.

Kind of reminds me of... oh well .. 

 

Caretha (1000+ posts)             Tue Sep-28-10 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #20
45. You concern is noted
   
and noted and noted and ............

 

BolivarianHero (1000+ posts)             Wed Sep-29-10 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #20
72. Shut up...
   
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 07:37 PM by BolivarianHero
The viewpoints of the Institute speak for themselves, and the issues on which Grayson attacks Webster are based on the fact the the Institute holds the exact same views featured in Grayson's ad. Webster truly is Taliban Dan, and both his membership in the Institute and his record on women's rights speak for themselves.

I routinely attack Democrats from the left, but Alan Grayson is a man who routinely stands up for progressive principles and who is willing to break his ****ing back to make life better for the average American (a position that more Democrats and every single Republicn ought to emulate). In this instance Grayson is right on the money about Webster, about the GOP, and about the radical right. He should stick to his guns.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/9/28/905990/-FL-... !

[delilahmused]

20. Thanks for posting that !
   
I am saddened by his response.
Grayson is entirely correct (in your link) that Webster does have a terrible woman's right's record.

What he doesn't do is own up to his ad and let it be known that it was out of order - an outright lie in point of fact.

Let's see if his response "matures" over the coming days as this makes the media rounds.
Representative Grayson has lost a lot of credibility in my own eyes today.
And I was a huge fan of his here from the beginning.

Kind of reminds me of... oh well .. 

Yeah because promising to love your wife with the same depth as Christ loved the church is incredibly abusive. Next time my husband promises something like that I think I'll throw a head of lettuce at him.

Cindie

[BEG]

Got this from FR: Link

Congressman Grayson Briefly Spent Time in Mental Hospital in 1980s (old news but worth posting!)
Right Hand Pitcher ^ | 10-27-09 | Charles Nelson
Posted on September 29, 2010 6:06:37 PM PDT by Justaham

n addition, Kipling stated that Grayson's campaign had a glaring omission. During 1988, when Grayson had just turned thirty and while working for the Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson law firm, he spent four days in the Psychiatric Institute of Washington. What the cause of this stay was is yet unclear, although testimony from co-workers suggests that Grayson was extremely combative with fellow employees, including slapping a female intern in the face. Grayson was released after PIW doctors declared him "not to be a threat to the public."

(Excerpt) Read more at righthandedpitcher.blogspot.com ...

[Wretched Excess]

Got this from FR:

Congressman Grayson Briefly Spent Time in Mental Hospital in 1980s (old news but worth posting!)
Right Hand Pitcher ^ | 10-27-09 | Charles Nelson
Posted on September 29, 2010 6:06:37 PM PDT by Justaham

n addition, Kipling stated that Grayson's campaign had a glaring omission. During 1988, when Grayson had just turned thirty and while working for the Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson law firm, he spent four days in the Psychiatric Institute of Washington. What the cause of this stay was is yet unclear, although testimony from co-workers suggests that Grayson was extremely combative with fellow employees, including slapping a female intern in the face. Grayson was released after PIW doctors declared him "not to be a threat to the public."

(Excerpt) Read more at righthandedpitcher.blogspot.com ...

(!)

somehow, I hadn't ever seen that before.  alan grayson is literally a nutjob.  how, er, unsurprising. 

[true_blood]

JoePhilly  (1000+ posts)  Journal    Tue Sep-28-10 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #40
47. The GOP can falsely claim the left supports terrorists ... no one blinks.
   
If a Dem uses a serrated knife rather than a butter knife, ohhhh no ... I must lie down on the fainting couch!!!!

The right can call the left ANYTHING they want (baby killer, socialist, marxist, on and on) and it NEVER gets questioned ... we NEED to cross the line more ... MUCH MORE ... and force the media to deal with the rhetoric.

Cowering in fear under our shawl is not working.

Gee, you want to know why Joestupid?!?!? Because terrorists are for the most part Islam based, correct?!? There always seems to be car bomb or sometime of other bomb going off and guess who's behind it?! You guessed big guy, the ****in' mooselims that practice the Islam faith. Coincidence,....I don't think so! And you idiots on the left say there's nothing wrong with Islam and more and more mosques being put up across America?!?
As for the baby killer/socialist/marxist remark, PLEASE tell me that you guys on the left, you know, the Dummies/liberals and progressives are against any of that??? You want abortions, you want your "free hell care", you want to redistribute the wealth. So next time Joestupid, get the facts straight before you type that all out and make yourself look like a DUmmie eve more than you are already!

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Got this from FR: Link

Congressman Grayson Briefly Spent Time in Mental Hospital in 1980s (old news but worth posting!)
Right Hand Pitcher ^ | 10-27-09 | Charles Nelson
Posted on September 29, 2010 6:06:37 PM PDT by Justaham

n addition, Kipling stated that Grayson's campaign had a glaring omission. During 1988, when Grayson had just turned thirty and while working for the Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson law firm, he spent four days in the Psychiatric Institute of Washington. What the cause of this stay was is yet unclear, although testimony from co-workers suggests that Grayson was extremely combative with fellow employees, including slapping a female intern in the face. Grayson was released after PIW doctors declared him "not to be a threat to the public."

(Excerpt) Read more at righthandedpitcher.blogspot.com ...

See, this just proves the need for national health care.

When someone like Alan Grayson can just be allowed to walk freely out of a mental hospital its time for the government to step in and make sure nothing like this happens ever again.

 

[AllosaursRus]

Yeah because promising to love your wife with the same depth as Christ loved the church is incredibly abusive. Next time my husband promises something like that I think I'll throw a head of lettuce at him.

Cindie

Now, now Cin, I think if he did, you'd more than likely give 'im a night to remember! It sure as hell works with "Toots"!!! LOL!

[Peet]

Grayson is possibly the worst politician ever, and that is saying something. He is obnoxious.

Are you sure?  What about Cynthia McKinney or Fortney "Pete" Stark (!), or my favorite Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy[1] who tried to conspire with the USSR to take Reagan down.

There are so many to choose from.

[1] Now sober more than one year!