I think it's time to think about raising the gas tax 1$/gal

[Carl]

taught_me_patience  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-19-08 01:57 PM
Original message
I think it's time to think about raising the gas tax 1$/gal
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The average price of gas is now $1.50 and if it stays this low for much longer, it will really damage the development of fuel efficient cars and alternative fuels. Failing to bite the bullet and make a transition to more fuel efficiency now will make the next oil crunch much worse. Secondly, it will make it easier to pay for the 800B-1T public works program that Obama has been proposing.

Should oil rise again, I wouldn't mind seeing the government scale back the tax to keep the price of gas "fixed" at about $2.50/g

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4683800

Any guesses what the primitives think about higher taxes when they might have to pay them.

liberal N proud  (1000+ posts)          Fri Dec-19-08 01:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. If you really don't need that extra dollar a gallon
   Send it to me.

PeaceNikki  (1000+ posts)          Fri Dec-19-08 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #5
16. Seriously? You don't get it?
   It's a ****ing regressive tax and a shitty idea.

Then bobbo shows up....

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)          Fri Dec-19-08 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. Thank you for understanding, and having the spine to say it!
   Your words are much appreciated by those of us who are HIT HARDEST by this ignorance, and who have lost HOPE because it is so prevalent!

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)          Fri Dec-19-08 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Before you dismiss me out of hand, take a look at the RESEARCH!
   You have already made it clear you don't give a shit about poor folk like me, so I don't find myself with a lot of patience for ignorance.

It is poor?
Gee somehow I missed that.

Donnachaidh  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-19-08 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #7
22. Let's start taxing the wealthy at the same levels FDR did
   I'll bet that 90% income tax would bring enough bucks to make some bitching alternate energy vehicles AND some wonderful green businesses.

Let's take the tax BURDEN off those who can LEAST afford it, and put it back where it belongs - on the wealthiest individuals who will feel it the LEAST.

Please explain this little economic theory.

catnhatnh  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-19-08 02:30 PM
Response to Original message
24. Know what???
   This is a semi-free country and each person on this board who thinks this is a good idea is totally welcome to send one or two or three or even more dollars per gallon to the government should they choose...perhaps you can start a movement.

But to the degree to which you suggest a tax increase on members of the board whom like my self are retired and dependent on SS, you can go and **** yourself. Call me funny, but if I ain't gonna be able to eat, then I'm not willing to sing Kumbaya with morons who think taking an equal number of ramen noodles packets from me and Bill Gates is not regressive.

Now if you proposed a tax on all private jets and limos and mansions, I'm perfectly willing to pay the same rate as Bill...

Greed,envy and self pity....you have it all covered.

NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-19-08 02:56 PM
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29. Make it illegal to pump our own gas like it used to be and that will kill two birds with one stone
   It will bring the price of gas up and create jobs.

Sounds like a win win situation to me.

Don

I really think this is the stupidest creature on the planet.

socordsx (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-19-08 03:06 PM
Response to Original message
34. Hahahaha! Ya NO!!!
   I have to drive my car a lot for my job, doubling my gas bill does not make me enthusiastic about the idea.

Yet you are perfectly happy to decide someone else should pay more.

Ghost in the Machine  (1000+ posts)          Fri Dec-19-08 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. How many of those poor people that you're so worried about can afford to buy a new vehicle?
   Why stop at the poor? What about the working poor and even some middle class people who are already stretched to their max, or who can't get a loan because of bad credit or something?

Please go explain to those people exactly *how* they're going to pay for that $20,000 - $30,000 vehicle that they'll need to drive to their $8 - $9/hr jobs. Go tell it to the people that buy a $1200 used car because it's cheaper than the $2100 they need to fix their car that just broke down.

What we need to do is to get hemp legalized again and devote an industry to that. Look at the petrol vs. hemp chart here: http://www.hempcar.org/petvshemp.shtml

 

On and on it goes,nothing but leeches and parasites wallowing in their misery all saying that they shouldn`t have to pay any extra taxes but someone else should.

[miskie]

moron - what you are afraid of is the Obama version of this --



(Which BTW I fully intend on photoshopping together.)

You know that gas is gonna skyrocket under Obama - So now you need to make it a good thing. Good luck with that. 

[thundley4]

You can guarantee that gas is going to go up along with all other energy related costs like heating and electricity.  His own ideas and the people he loading his cabinet/advisors with will see to that. 

[Zeus]

The best and worst states for taxes

Gasoline and diesel are taxed at different rates in most states. Besides the straight excise tax, which varies from a low of 4 cents a gallon in Florida to a high of 36 cents in Washington, most states add other gas taxes that increase the toll. The state with the greatest total state tax on gasoline is California (45.5 cents per gallon); the lowest is Alaska (8 cents). Those are levied on top of the federal tax on gasoline, unchanged from last year at 18.4 cents per gallon.

On average, the combined state and federal gasoline tax is 45.8 cents across the nation, making the United States one of the least expensive places in the Western world to buy fuel. In Europe, government taxes make up about 60% of the price of fuel, on average, according to The Christian Science Monitor. According to the American Petroleum Institute, motorists in the western U.S. pay the most in fuel excise taxes (53.9 cents), while those in the South pay the least (38.4 cents).

[Chris_]

moron - what you are afraid of is the Obama version of this --



(Which BTW I fully intend on photoshopping together.)

You know that gas is gonna skyrocket under Obama - So now you need to make it a good thing. Good luck with that. 

[delilahmused]

NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-19-08 02:56 PM
Response to Original message
29. Make it illegal to pump our own gas like it used to be and that will kill two birds with one stone
   It will bring the price of gas up and create jobs.

Sounds like a win win situation to me.

Don

We can't pump our own gas here in OR and our prices are comparable to everyone else in the country. We do tend to have frustratingly long waits at the stations where gas is the cheapest because they're generally less enthused about their jobs than most other people. Customer service is kind of lost on them. OTOH, it does provide plenty of time for moonbats to make up bouncy gas station tales.

Cindie

[LC EFA]

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Donnachaidh  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-19-08 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #7
22. Let's start taxing the wealthy at the same levels FDR did
   I'll bet that 90% income tax would bring enough bucks to make some bitching alternate energy vehicles AND some wonderful green businesses.

Let's take the tax BURDEN off those who can LEAST afford it, and put it back where it belongs - on the wealthiest individuals who will feel it the LEAST.

Hahaha.

How about you work 9 hours out of 10 for no pay so that others can live it up without lifting a finger, Donna. Doesn't sound so good framed like that eh comrade.

Those that can LEAST afford it don't have any BURDEN as they don't pay diddly in taxes anyway you moron. Taxes are a percentage of income, and NO income (or property) , means NO taxes.

I'd add that back in the FDR days, the "rich", didn't pay anything like 90% as they had mechanisms in place to avoid it.

I'm all in favor of some company creating a "bitching alternate energy vehicle", heck if it looks like a viable project I might even buy some stock in the company. Same applies to "green business".

However the idea of allowing the government to steal money from the taxpayers to prop up an venture that is clearly not viable and will result in a money being pissed onto the wall, is just stupid.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)          Fri Dec-19-08 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Before you dismiss me out of hand, take a look at the RESEARCH!
   You have already made it clear you don't give a shit about poor folk like me, so I don't find myself with a lot of patience for ignorance.

For someone who claims to be so with it and intelligent,one would think she could take that intelligence and maybe get some employment so her old ass isn't living in her car

[Carl]

For someone who claims to be so with it and intelligent,one would think she could take that intelligence and maybe get some employment so her old ass isn't living in her car

That has become her identity,she wouldn`t give it up for anything.
She seeks and revels in misery so no matter what one did for her she will find her way back to where she is.

[TheSarge]

Another case of the DUmmies trying to have it both ways.  

Gas is too high they bitch about the amount out of their wallet it costs to fill their Volvo.

Gas goes back down to normal and they are in a tizzy because it threatens to take funds from the Prius they want the rest of us to drive while they cruise the roads in their Volvo.

[USA4ME]

catnhatnh

24. Know what???

This is a semi-free country and each person on this board who thinks this is a good idea is totally welcome to send one or two or three or even more dollars per gallon to the government should they choose...perhaps you can start a movement.

I've seen members either get TS'd or severely repremanded by the hive for comments suggesting that if others like the gov't so much they could send in more than they owe.  I remember one thread where someone suggested that and posters were claiming they tried and the gov't sent them back a refund for overpayment.     Guess this one got away with it by using the "semi-free country" comment.

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[rich_t]

For someone who claims to be so with it and intelligent,one would think she could take that intelligence and maybe get some employment so her old ass isn't living in her car

It's gotta be a real bitch to get a dial up internet connection ran to the car.