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DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« on: December 17, 2008, 01:04:42 PM »
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Metric System. I know there are more pressing issues, but do you think Obama...
   
might finally let us go on it?

-picture of world with metric/non-metric system countries not included-

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8. It would cost a lot of money, which is a good reason to do it

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El Supremo  (1000+ posts)
Tue Dec-16-08 03:42 PM
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9. All right! A MPA. Metrics Progress Administration.
   
Sound great. Employ people to change all the signs and markings.

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14. Sure. He keeps talking about resoring science to the glory days
   
of... pre-Reagan so why not?

We've made no scientific innovations since Reagan was President? :whatever:

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40. how many kilograms are there to a stone? or a dime bag?

The all important question, how to measure your drugs. :whatever:
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2008, 01:30:45 PM »
Another thread!  Teh stupid, it burns!

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Include switching the US to the metric system in the stimulus package   

It's long overdue, we need to join the world. For the people who don't like it, just include it when you bitch and whine about Spanish being spoken here and you mumble about how great the country used to be. Oh, and a hint about that, they actually aren't "talking about you." As far as the ignorant, I think President Obama has made it clear with his last few appointments, we are thankfully finished pandering to the ignorant.

It is needed for competitiveness in business and science and it is perfect timing to go with the infrastructure spending. Changing all road signs to kilometers, gasoline pumps to measure in liters, so and so on.

The idea came from here: Metric thread
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2008, 02:54:39 PM »
I dunno about this.

The British used to have the most-excellent monetary system in the world, four farthings to the penny, twelve pennies to the shilling, five shillings to the crown, four crowns to the pound, and twenty-one shillings to the guinea.

A wonderful system.

But then the British decided that instead of being British, they wanted to be like everybody else, and switched their system to decimal.

One supposes it "simplified" things for idiots and the retarded--reasonable people of course knew the system--but it had an unintended consequence.

Inflation.

Inflation, either price-wise or size-wise.

Newspapers that had been sixpence (6d) under the old system, or exactly the equivalent of 6 cents, American (the British pound was then waving between $2.38 and $2.42, making a penny worth an American cent), suddenly became three new pence (3p) under the new system, the equivalent of 7.2 cents, American.

This was in 1971, and there existed then no compelling reason for the inflation.

Twenty percent inflation.

Multiply that by all the other things the British bought and paid for.

Or look at the standard 12-ounce aluminum can of soda in this country, which is .355 of a liter.  If we converted to this fad, one could easily see a soda producer thinking, "Well, .350 of a liter is easier to deal with than .355," and downsize his product accordingly.....without also downsizing the price.

Conversion costs money, and I'm not talking about repainting road-signs here.

People who HAVE to figure out things by tens are pretty stupid anyway.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2008, 04:00:06 PM »
The all important question, how to measure your drugs. :whatever:

Hey, the drugs went metric long ago, grams and kilograms, except for a few burnout hippies still dealing marijuana by the ounce.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 05:31:02 PM »
I used to design a lot of equipment that went to europe (pre CE) and would get a a good chuckle every time we sent one over all SAE and no tool kit.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2008, 05:33:09 PM »
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Metric System. I know there are more pressing issues, but do you think Obama...
   
might finally let us go on it?

They truly want him to be the Jimmy Carter of our time.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2008, 05:45:11 PM »
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9. All right! A MPA. Metrics Progress Administration.
   
Sound great. Employ people to change all the signs and markings.

What a GREAT idea!

Maybe he could carpet bomb a few cities!!

Think of all the employment THAT would create!

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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2008, 07:07:01 PM »
DUmbasses might want to learn about the "Broken Window" school of economics.


I doubt their lizard brains will understand but WTH.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2008, 11:24:28 PM »
Oh for cryin' out loud!!!!!!!

We're in deep shit economically, and these asshats want to throw needle bearings down the carburetor! What a frikkin' wonderful idea!

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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2008, 11:29:37 PM »
It's the "broken window" economics theory.  All the (currently emplyed) mechanics that work on SAE equipment will have to purchase metric tools to comply with the ObamaFurhrer's demands.  Didn't Congress pull this shit during Nixon?  I remember there was some sort of government "suggestion" that we all switch over to the metric system.


jmho, but I prefer the metric system (mostly from working on Hondas).  A 10mm is a hell of a lot easier to figure than a 3/4 versus a 5/16. :p
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2008, 04:52:32 PM »
Of course I still "think" in American units, but I'm fairly experienced with SI as well.  One thing I have to say on behalf of the American units is that, while SI may be less error-prone during mental calculation, American units have at least the potential for greater ease of precision, this by simple virtue of the fact that 12 has more factors than 10 (I'm thinking linear measurement here).

2/3 is simpler for the layman to mentally grasp than 0.666666...
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2008, 06:02:32 PM »
It's the "broken window" economics theory.  All the (currently emplyed) mechanics that work on SAE equipment will have to purchase metric tools to comply with the ObamaFurhrer's demands.  Didn't Congress pull this shit during Nixon?  I remember there was some sort of government "suggestion" that we all switch over to the metric system.


jmho, but I prefer the metric system (mostly from working on Hondas).  A 10mm is a hell of a lot easier to figure than a 3/4 versus a 5/16. :p

Screw metric wrenches, I'll just use a Crescent Wrench.  (I have seen a metric adjustable wrench not made by Crescent tools)

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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2008, 07:14:59 PM »
It's the "broken window" economics theory.  All the (currently emplyed) mechanics that work on SAE equipment will have to purchase metric tools to comply with the ObamaFurhrer's demands.  Didn't Congress pull this shit during Nixon?  I remember there was some sort of government "suggestion" that we all switch over to the metric system.


jmho, but I prefer the metric system (mostly from working on Hondas).  A 10mm is a hell of a lot easier to figure than a 3/4 versus a 5/16. :p

I come from the world of ball bearing and hydraulic fitting measurements where everything is classified by 1/16 of an inch.

Therefore a NPS012RRC ball bearing will always be a narrow inner ring,spherical outer ring,3/4 bore,relubricatible insert bearing.

It becomes very easy once you grasp it.

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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2008, 05:31:12 AM »
I used to design a lot of equipment that went to europe (pre CE) and would get a a good chuckle every time we sent one over all SAE and no tool kit.

Huh?

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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2008, 06:42:46 AM »
I used to design a lot of equipment that went to europe (pre CE) and would get a a good chuckle every time we sent one over all SAE and no tool kit.

Turn about is fair play........... :rotf:

Metric systen gave me a lot of laughs back in the 70's...."Hey. Ya'll sell dem messy-can wrenches?"
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2008, 10:11:38 AM »
Turn about is fair play........... :rotf:

Metric systen gave me a lot of laughs back in the 70's...."Hey. Ya'll sell dem messy-can wrenches?"

Hell, about everything with threads in a US passenger vehicle now is metric anyway.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2008, 10:30:15 AM »
It's the "broken window" economics theory.  All the (currently emplyed) mechanics that work on SAE equipment will have to purchase metric tools to comply with the ObamaFurhrer's demands.  Didn't Congress pull this shit during Nixon?  I remember there was some sort of government "suggestion" that we all switch over to the metric system.


jmho, but I prefer the metric system (mostly from working on Hondas).  A 10mm is a hell of a lot easier to figure than a 3/4 versus a 5/16. :p

Don't professional mechanics already have tools in both metric and SAE? I'm just a backyard mechanic, but I've had both for decades.

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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2008, 08:22:58 AM »
I have both at home, but at work(I work on airplanes) I have SAE.  I believe ALL aircraft manufacturers use SAE for ease of integration around the world.  I would have to spend alot more money to redo my rollaway toolbox with metric. not to mention all the manufacturers would also....MD
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2008, 10:50:19 AM »
My god the nightmare it would be to go metric within the military..........................in just in dimensional hand tools, torque wrenches, pressure gages, thread plugs and rings :thatsright:
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2008, 10:54:07 AM »
I guess thery're inspired by how well this plan worked in the 70s. All that came out of it was dual numbers on speedometers and changes in measurements for drugs and beverages.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2008, 01:00:21 PM »
Of course I still "think" in American units, but I'm fairly experienced with SI as well.  One thing I have to say on behalf of the American units is that, while SI may be less error-prone during mental calculation, American units have at least the potential for greater ease of precision, this by simple virtue of the fact that 12 has more factors than 10 (I'm thinking linear measurement here).

2/3 is simpler for the layman to mentally grasp than 0.666666...

Isn't that the primary dispute between the two schools of thought. Ease of measurement vs, Precision of measurement. I ain't no rocket scientist but I would think precision would take a back seat to ease of measurement. What good does it do to have something easy to do if it doesn't work.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2008, 01:25:10 PM »
Isn't that the primary dispute between the two schools of thought. Ease of measurement vs, Precision of measurement. I ain't no rocket scientist but I would think precision would take a back seat to ease of measurement. What good does it do to have something easy to do if it doesn't work.

If you were a rocket scientist, you'd be using a calculator, for which the only factors affecting ease of measurement are your skill with the calculator and the software packages on the calculator.

Ease of measurement is only a concern for those fields where mental calculations are frequently performed - and I'm pretty sure that those are also the fields where precision is less important.  However, if you're an engineer designing a structure which will kill people when it fails, precision is much more important - and you aren't going to be doing many mental calculations.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2008, 06:17:58 PM »
Precision trumps ease everyday in reality..................if things are precise what good does ease do
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2008, 06:21:58 PM »
Don't professional mechanics already have tools in both metric and SAE? I'm just a backyard mechanic, but I've had both for decades.

My POS Buick was all-SAE, but I didn't like it enough to buy tools to take care of it.  All I have are metric tools.  And I'm a cheapass, which doesn't help things.
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Re: DUmmy suggests that Obama adopt use of metric system
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2008, 07:32:28 PM »
I can use metric and US measurements fairly interchangeably.

Of course I still "think" in American units, but I'm fairly experienced with SI as well.  One thing I have to say on behalf of the American units is that, while SI may be less error-prone during mental calculation, American units have at least the potential for greater ease of precision, this by simple virtue of the fact that 12 has more factors than 10 (I'm thinking linear measurement here).

2/3 is simpler for the layman to mentally grasp than 0.666666...

The degree of precision is the same. The way we quantify it differs.

Most engineering measurements here are in mm and things are made to that scale ... ie if you have a metric fitting for a hose it will be for example 12mm , not 1/2" (circa 12.5mm). The hose itself is metric so if you were to express it's size in US terms it would come out as something like .4899...."

Is only when it comes to interoperability, where people have issues. Like having to own 2 sets of tools.