9 years without health care. Tens of thousands in debt.

[Texacon]

The incredible rags to riches to rags to riches to rags to riches ... oh ... you get the idea ....9 years without health care. Tens of thousands in debt. 

walldude  (1000+ posts)       
Thu Oct-29-09 07:52 PM
Original message

 And this bill is the best they can do? And people are actually satisfied with it?

Wife has diabetes, heart disease and is in need of a hip replacement. My middle son has Autism. My youngest, whom we adopted, has Muscular Dystrophy.
I am self employed so there is no employer coverage. Any health insurance company just laughs at us when we try to get coverage. I make way too much to get any assistance. The MD association takes our youngest for free so that is covered but anything else we have to pay cash for. $300 a month in medications. $225 per visit to the doctor. God forbid we need to go to the emergency room. I'm still paying for the last visit. Over 10 grand for 4 hours in the e-room.

What I don't get is how anyone could be not only satisfied but happy with this bill. It's a gift to the insurance industry and a half assed band aid to a system that needed open heart surgery. Unless the proponents are already covered, is that the discrepancy here? Are the people who are happy with this piece of shit bill already doing ok? Because coming from someone who is in desperate need of real reform this is a pile of crap.

And please, don't tell me this is the "first step" and be patient. There are people in my family who may not have the time you do to wait for CHANGE.
 

From rich to poor to rich to poor to ... I don't know what the hell it is now.  It can't afford insurance yet it makes WAY TOO MUCH to get assistance.

Fumesucker  (1000+ posts)       
Thu Oct-29-09 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #2

6. He makes too much to get help.. 
 What part of that do you not understand?

You're going to have to be all but out on the street to get any help.

sandnsea  (1000+ posts)      Thu Oct-29-09 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. Now, he does
 If he has a household income of over $90,000 then he won't get help. Otherwise he will. If he has a household income of over $90,000, oh boohoo he'll have to pay for his own health insurance and it can't be denied to him. It also will have out of pocket caps, and premium pay-out requirements that will guarantee they aren't just charging him a bunch of money and not paying for medical services. And since he's self-employed, he'll also get small business assistance to purchase insurance or the public plan.

Sounds like he's a helluva lot better off to me. Even if we got single payer, his taxes would have gone up at least as much as he'll pay for a premium.

YEAH!  Stick it to the rich bastard!!   

More at the link.  Quite funny.

KC

[thundley4]

$225 per visit to the doctor.

WHAT?

[Texacon]

WHAT?

I liked the $2,500/hour ER visit.  What the hell ..... did it have to have a brain implant in the ER?

KC

[Chump]

The myopic view these people have disgusts me.  He tell us his youngest is an adopted child with special physical needs (+1 in my book, that's awesome) and also tells us he's treated for free.  Lucky you!  You don't even have to bear the costs of your decision to adopt in the first place!  Then the rest of his screed is just one big whine about his expenses.

DUmmie, if you're going to go out on your own and be self-employed, you had better make damn ****ing sure you have the ability to provide for yourself, your family, and future expenses.  That should be the primary, if not only goal and requirement for your decision.  These people depend on you, and you in turn transfer that dependence to the government, i.e. the rest of us.  You're a ****ing cowardly loser and I weep for your poor children.   

[zeitgeist]

Why does the moniker walldude sound familiar?  Is this the primitive who became unemployed trying to imbed subliminal messages in a trade show display ?  Could explain why he is now self employed.

[franksolich]

Why does the moniker walldude sound familiar?  Is this the primitive who became unemployed trying to imbed subliminal messages in a trade show display ?  Could explain why he is now self employed.

Yeah, it is.

The same one.

[bkg]

If you've gone 9 years w/o prividing your family health insurance, you're a failure of a husband and father. My opinion.

[The Village Idiot]

I liked the $2,500/hour ER visit.  What the hell ..... did it have to have a brain implant in the ER?

KC

That must have been some ER visit. Did he get shot while having a heart attack while driving at high speeds?

[GOBUCKS]

Why does the moniker walldude sound familiar?  Is this the primitive who became unemployed trying to imbed subliminal messages in a trade show display ?  Could explain why he is now self employed.

That helps you to  consider the general honesty and trustworthiness of the DUmmy who is spinning this bouncy tale.

The first tipoff is the contention that this lazy, dishonest, untalented, unemployed DUmmy is making too much money to qualify for some kind of democrat handout.

[Texacon]

That helps you to  consider the general honesty and trustworthiness of the DUmmy who is spinning this bouncy tale.

The first tipoff is the contention that this lazy, dishonest, untalented, unemployed DUmmy is making too much money to qualify for some kind of democrat handout.

Someone with strong googlefu or a mole who can search should be able to find where walldud was posting not too long ago ... maybe 6 months about how broke it was.  First it was extremely wealthy for being self employed then broke then extremely wealthy now can't afford ins.

It lies over and over.

KC

[crockspot]

If walldude has had "no health care" for ten years, how is it that he has medical bills?

I guess they bill you for not providing care anymore.

By the way, ten years worth of insurance premiums would come to a hell of a lot more than ten thousand dollars.

[Chump]

If walldude has had "no health care" for ten years, how is it that he has medical bills?

I guess they bill you for not providing care anymore.

By the way, ten years worth of insurance premiums would come to a hell of a lot more than ten thousand dollars.

That's less than our costs per year...

[ScubaGuy]

The last time we heard from WallDud he was bragging about how CU did him such a big favor by getting him fired.  He was making more money than ever.

Frank is right.  DUmmies always lie.

[JohnnyReb]

I liked the $2,500/hour ER visit.  What the hell ..... did it have to have a brain implant in the ER?

KC

In October of 1996, a major heart attack and 45 minutes in ER cost me $9,100.00. 2 days in ICU in the hospital they shipped me to cost me $16,000.00. The next hospital, the one that actually did something for my heart attack, was a lot cheaper. I had sugery, 6 days in ICU, 2 days in CCU and the bill was $16,001.00. In jest, I asked if they could knock the $1 off the bill.....and they were about to do it.....