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Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« on: June 24, 2012, 08:58:08 AM »
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Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal

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Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal

by BooMan
Sun Jun 24th, 2012 at 08:53:16 AM EST


It's interesting to note that stocks are down in the health care industry since the Supreme Court held oral arguments on the Affordable Care Act. People are selling hospital stock and stocks in a variety of insurance companies on speculation that the bill will be repealed in part or in whole. Most health care-related industries stand to lose if there is a repeal. It's not even clear that the pharmaceutical industry wants to see the law overturned at this point. They can certainly live with the deal they made, and they've put a ton of work into complying with the law that would all go to waste. If you wanted to make a gamble, you could make a small fortune betting on the stocks of these companies to go up if the the health care is upheld. And that fact alone should tell you that 100% of what the Republicans have been saying about ObamaCare is bullshit.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125148917

Since when has the left given a damn about what any industry wants? When the oil companies complain that the EPA is killing them the libs say good.

I love how they claim that what the people who read the health care bill say is bullshit.

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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 09:03:02 AM »
There may be a grain of truth in that statement....the helthcare industry wants to get paid at least a few pennies from someone for treating nonpaying, worthless, DUmmie asses.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 09:08:14 AM »
I work in health care, he is full of crap.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 09:52:39 AM »
Even if they want to keep it (which is a lie), why would it matter if it's found unconstitutional?
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 10:03:40 AM »
There are winners and losers in the health care industry no matter which way the Supreme Court comes down on it.  Any position you care to take on it would be viewed favorably by the people who would win under that outcome.  There is no unitary "Health care industry" position.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 10:10:47 AM »
Small health care companies will have a hard time staying in business under Obamacare. Large companies might gobble them up. I do think that Obamacare in the long run will devour all private insurers or that they will totally be dependent on gov. mandates.

AARP is tickled shitless about Obamacare because they write most of the Medigap insurance policies. Obamacre will outlaw supplemental plans for seniors which will greatly increase AARP business. This rotten liberal outfit does not make it money off of dues. That is just a drop in the bucket; it makes almost a billion dollars off of it's overpriced insurance and mutual funds. The mutual funds that they promote have high fees and lousy returns which are bottom feeders.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 11:32:37 AM »
Quote from: BEG on June 24, 2012, 09:52:39 AM
Even if they want to keep it (which is a lie), why would it matter if it's found unconstitutional?

The constitution only matters if they can somehow twist the meaning to suit their desires.

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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 02:36:56 PM »
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they've put a ton of work into complying with the law that would all go to waste.



Stalin put a ton of work into his May Day parades that would all go to waste if we didn't endorse the Soviet Union.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2012, 03:04:24 PM »
FUN FACT: in 2011 almost $100 billion was spent by the federal government getting ready to implement 0bama HellCare. I can't wait to hear the amount wasted in 2012 but we do know that HHS has spent or is spending almost a billion dollars to promote HellCare in advertising this year.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2012, 03:32:53 PM »
I don't care what the healthcare industry wants. Especially since the HMO structure was set up by Fat Teddy. I care about the greatest amount of liberty for the greatest number of people. HMO's only care about the greatest freedom to treat people like chattel.

And thus, the healthcare industry is aligned with 0bama and the statist.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2012, 03:59:30 PM »
Quote from: jukin on June 24, 2012, 03:04:24 PM
FUN FACT: in 2011 almost $100 billion was spent by the federal government getting ready to implement 0bama HellCare. I can't wait to hear the amount wasted in 2012 but we do know that HHS has spent or is spending almost a billion dollars to promote HellCare in advertising this year.

It may be where I live but, I haven't seen any advertisements from HHS.  Do you suppose the ad agency's are another Solandra type deal.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2012, 06:49:44 PM »
I am wondering if any of those douchebags even read the bill yet? I am guessing that they didn't.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2012, 07:15:31 PM »
I can only assume that this talking point is because some insurers have agreed to allow kids on their parents insurance until age 26 regardless of the outcome of Obamacare -

- Which goes to show that competition works.... We can't have that in DUland now, can we ? So, it has to be that the healthcare industry loves Obamacare...

Which sets up an even worse conundrum for them.

If the 'for-profit' industry loves Obamacare, then obviously they can make more money with it than without it, which flies in the face of one of the primary driving forces behind its passage in the first place.

However I suspect that any result will be regarded as racism. Because they apparently still think that cries of racism turn a losing fight into a victory.
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Re: Health Care Industry Doesn't Want Repeal
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2012, 07:43:45 PM »
Quote from: Lacarnut on June 24, 2012, 10:10:47 AM
Small health care companies will have a hard time staying in business under Obamacare. Large companies might gobble them up. I do think that Obamacare in the long run will devour all private insurers or that they will totally be dependent on gov. mandates.

AARP is tickled shitless about Obamacare because they write most of the Medigap insurance policies. Obamacre will outlaw supplemental plans for seniors which will greatly increase AARP business. This rotten liberal outfit does not make it money off of dues. That is just a drop in the bucket; it makes almost a billion dollars off of it's overpriced insurance and mutual funds. The mutual funds that they promote have high fees and lousy returns which are bottom feeders.

All but two doctors were bought out by larger healthcare companies as they look forward to Obamacare. The two that are not part of the group broke away due to the fact one of the insurance comanpies that is very popular for senior citizens also owns the health care group which limits options for the patients....

I know of patients that had to change primary doctors two or three times during all of these buy outs....most of these patients were senior citizens with many health problems. It was very hard on them.
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