A DUmmie asks a simple enough question: "If the Dems think the stimulus bill will create jobs, why do they keep adding pork to it? Don't they know the add-ons are going to torpedo this bill that they think is so vital to American workers?"
4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 05:42 PM
Original message
Ok just hear me out here
Advertisements [?]to really get Some jobs to Some people now -like yesterday, lets just say they take out everything the republicans are fighting, ok Whatever is holding it up and then they have nothing to hold it up so it passes. Then create other packages to help people and go from there? I know I'm missing things but please set me straight. Anything is better than nothing right ? I don't know about you guys but I've had enough push it through and vote or change it and go on we don't have the luxury of waiting. Really talk me down what am I missing?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4980975A little bit of discussion ensues, showing how little the DUmmies know about politics. And then my favorite DUmmie that lives in a van down by the river wades into the fray.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
5. Some of us are SIck And TIRED of being left out, just for the convenience of others.
Remember "SOLIDARITY"?
We get so tired of being told to VOTE, yet when it comes time to stand with us, it's so very easy to toss us out.
ENOUGH!
4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Right that's what I'm saying
we need this now whatever, so just start to help us Now and go from there whatever it takes. I just don't get it as of late.
4t4 innocently agrees with bobbolink that help for the unemployed, who want to work, is important, unfortunately he doesn't get bobbo's point...
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. No, that is NOT what you're saying!!! You want me to give up what I need for others.
NO!!! I'm so damned tired of that!
******* it, what would it take for people to actually CARE about those of us on the very bottom ?????
Yes indeed, bobbo is supposed to give up what she needs to help others. What is it she is giving up?
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Rather than charity, we need the same as you... basic living!
Asking us to opt out for you... I can't even believe you can justify this.
Yes, it pisses me off!
Oh, and *I* lost everything two years ago.
I'm very angry that we are pitted against each other, and I'm angry that you are even suggesting it.
She "lost" everything when she moved out of Government provided housing because the Apartment Manager was a big ol' meanie. But it's nice to hear that she no longer wants the charity of the taxpayer. So what does she want???
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. Very simple. To be included!!!! How difficult is that to understand.
YET, now you are trying to paint me as being unreasonable, because I'm pissed that you would sell me out for your own benefit!!
Some "friend".
OK, she wants to be included. I can get onboard with that. Bobbo you are officially included.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. You're pitting the middleclass "new poor" against us, the "old poor"???
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 06:15 PM by bobbolink
Why?
WHY should we keep voting for the people you want us to vote for, then give up what we need for YOU?
WHY???
She wants her vote to mean representation. OK that's also reasonable.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. What is YOUR problem? What don't you understand??
It's all about YOU, and now you want to paint me as being a "problem".
I don't want a ride from you, or a damned candy bar.
I want MY benefits!!
What is YOUR problem that you don't grasp that???
Oh, there it is. She doesn't want charity, she just wants her "benefits".
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. Stop patronizing me.
I don't want your charity, I don't want your looking down on me.
I INSIST ON BEING A FULL HUMAN BEING! AND THAT MEANS GETTING THE SAME AS YOU DO!
So she doesn't want to be patronized, she wants to be included, she wants her "benefits" and she doesn't want charity. Sounds a lot like she wants a job.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-04-09 07:47 PM
Response to Original message
35. Here's the deal.... Those of you who got the "rebate" last year, do without this year
so that those of us who got NOTHING can finally get something this year!
Sounds more than fair to me!
Deal with it.
Yep, it's official, she wants to be relevant, have stuff and be in a position to get a tax refund. Obviously, she is desperately searching for gainful employment. Either that or she just wants a large enough check from the taxpayers (which are "benefits", not charity) to be able to support whatever lifestyle she chooses to live. Hard to tell which way she's gonna go. But somehow I got a funny feeling that I'll continue to fund her miserable life.