I'm sick of the "both sides" shit.

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cbdo2007 (8,805 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214166649

I'm sick of the "both sides" shit. It wasn't both sides. The problem was Trump.
Everyone knows it was Trump which is why Trumps own team would never agree to a debate where he can't be aggressive, loud, and controlling.

Don't let them get away with the "both sides" thing. Call them out.

Who interrupted whom more?

Who went over their time over and over again and talked over the other person?

Who was reprimanded by the moderator multiple times for breaking the debate rules and not answering questions directly?

"Both sides" is a false flag that means they know they were wrong, but we need to turn this back against them and let them know it wasn't both sides, it was one side.

cbdo2007 (8,805 posts)

9. Most aren't literally saying "both sides" but they imply it with "pure chaos" or

"a disaster" or "an embarrassment" and implying the debate itself was terrible, rather than saying "Trump was pure chaos" or "Trump was a disaster" or "Trump was an embarrassment".

On social media there is plenty of talk that it was both sides interrupting and both sides not following rules, etc, implying they were doing it equally when it was heavily Trump doing it all.

Star Member redstatebluegirl (10,151 posts)

3. 538 had a cheeky article this morning saying

Both sides did poorly. I quit reading after the first two paragraphs.

Claustrum (874 posts)

4. Yup. MSNBC just showed an interview of "undecided voters"

and most of them said both of them are bad. Yes, both talked over each other at times and trade insults. But Trump did 80-90% of it. It's not fair to say both side did it.......

Biden tried to follow rules and respected Wallace's request when asked. Trump didn't. If Biden didn't cut in at times, he wouldn't be able to respond at all.

Star Member The Wizard (10,731 posts)

13. Undecided means they like Trump but they're embarrassed to admit it.

Pox News brain poison is very effective at getting viewers to detach from reality. Undecideds think professional wrestling is a competitive sport.

Star Member Laelth (28,201 posts)

6. Even Chris Wallace accused Trump of interrupting far more often.

There was some both-siderism in the initial, post-debate analysis, but that is fading after the initial shock of the debate has worn off.

Trump was abusive (of Biden, of Wallace, of the debate process, of our politics, and of the American people). Many are seeing that clearly this morning.

-Laelth

Star Member UCmeNdc (7,317 posts)

8. 100% Agree!!! Biden did what he needed to do. Trump started it.

Joe Biden just ended it.

Now don't call it even.

 

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  I take it DUpipo are disappointed that Joe the Trump-Slayer didn't reduce Trump to a puddle of quivering goo as mal and a few other DUpipo prophesied.

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I'm tired of both sides shit, too. For instance, the left is largely responsible for the rise of political violence in this country, yet all we hear is how the violence comes from white supremacist boogeymen. Invisible white supremacist boogeymen. Hell, maybe their skin is so light, it's invisible!