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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #100 on: May 26, 2012, 09:37:44 AM »
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A judge will be reprimanded and fined $100 for jailing a lawyer who refused to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in his courtroom. The State Supreme Court affirmed the recommendation from the Commission on Judicial Performance against Chancellor Talmadge Littlejohn of New Albany. The commission said that Judge Littlejohn acknowledged violating the rights of the lawyer, Danny Lampley, in October with a contempt of court order.

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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #101 on: May 26, 2012, 10:17:21 AM »
The judge was found in error.
Your point is what, exactly?
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Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #102 on: May 26, 2012, 10:21:52 AM »
Quote from: Skul on May 26, 2012, 10:17:21 AM
The judge was found in error.
Your point is what, exactly?

He must be thinking that his point was sealed because a judge was in error and and the supreme court is slapping him on the wrist; so the pledge should be abolished. It is a typical liberal mind set.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #103 on: May 26, 2012, 10:30:39 AM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on May 26, 2012, 10:21:52 AM
He must be thinking that his point was sealed because a judge was in error and and the supreme court is slapping him on the wrist; so the pledge should be abolished. It is a typical liberal mind set.
Ahh, yes, that did slip by me.  :cheersmate:
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Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #104 on: May 26, 2012, 09:25:47 PM »
Quote from: Doubleplusungood on May 25, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
you do indeed give a shit.

Only in your wildest and most delusional hallucinations.


Quote from: formerlurker on May 26, 2012, 06:59:57 AM
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The Bellamy salute is the salute described by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931) to accompany the American Pledge of Allegiance, which he had authored.

Francis Bellamy was a (gasp) SOCIALIST.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #105 on: May 26, 2012, 09:37:49 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on May 24, 2012, 09:49:25 AM
All of that bluster and bullshit to say that pledging your loyalty to the very symbol that represents our freedoms, our way of life, and the Republic... (and other and sundry aberrations, ramifications, fixations, lamentations, hallucinations, and incantations).

And "All of that bluster and bullshit" just to justify fealty to a few words written by a (gasp) SOCIALIST!
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #106 on: May 26, 2012, 09:37:57 PM »
Quote from: indago on May 26, 2012, 09:25:47 PM
Only in your wildest and most delusional hallucinations.



Francis Bellamy was a (gasp) SOCIALIST.

A Christian Socialist
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It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.

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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #107 on: May 26, 2012, 10:57:32 PM »
Quote from: indago on May 26, 2012, 09:37:49 PM
And "All of that bluster and bullshit" just to justify fealty to a few words written by a (gasp) SOCIALIST!
You need to consider something.
You haven't been banned yet, have you?
Nope.
Had one of us gone to the DUmp, and raised such a ruckus, what would happen?
You think about that.
You're not going to be banned just for your differing opinions.
You're gonna be whacked and spanked, but, that's it.
Seriously, think about it.
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Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #108 on: May 26, 2012, 11:04:31 PM »
Quote from: Zeus on May 26, 2012, 09:37:57 PM
A Christian Socialist
Until now a lot of Catholics were Christian socialists. Then owebuma showed his true colors, and dictated to the church how to conduct their matters of faith. The backlash will be enormous.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #109 on: May 27, 2012, 06:33:06 AM »
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"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

The Republic for which it stands represents a capitalist society.   He may not have viewed it that way, but the words are powerful and most fitting for our children to recite.    Note that students in many schools across the country also recite the school's mission/vision statement (and high school accreditation requirements mandate students learn it). 

Indoctrination?  Dude, it's everywhere.    Listen for the helicopters cause they are coming...
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #110 on: May 27, 2012, 07:11:50 AM »
Quote from: Zeus on May 26, 2012, 09:37:57 PM
A Christian Socialist

A Christian Socialist who shared his association with the likes of Francis of Assisi, Pope Leo XIII, Leo Tolstoy,  Desmond Tutu, Joseph Smith, Jr., AND Martin Luther King, Jr.

Liberals like to leave the "christian" part out.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #111 on: May 27, 2012, 10:22:20 AM »
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In West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, the Supreme Court ruled that requiring the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools violated the First and Fourteenth Amendments. The case grew out of West Virginia's passage of legislation requiring the pledge and flag-saluting. Lawmakers had intended them to be part of instruction on civics, history, and the Constitution, and they defined noncompliance as insubordination that was punishable by expulsion from school. Parents of expelled students were also subject to fines. After Jehovah's Witnesses students were expelled, their parents brought suit contending that the law infringed upon their religious beliefs, which they said required them not to engage in these secular practices.

The Supreme Court found two constitutional violations. The state law violated the Fourteenth Amendment's requirement of due process and the First Amendment's requirements of religious freedom and free speech upon the state. At heart, said the Court, were the principles of freedom of thought and government by consent. Critically, the majority observed a right of individuals to be free from official pressure to state a particular opinion, including that they honor their government. The opinion declared that "no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein."

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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #112 on: May 27, 2012, 10:29:35 AM »
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After Jehovah's Witnesses students were expelled, their parents brought suit contending that the law infringed upon their religious beliefs, which they said required them not to engage in these secular practices.

EH?
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #113 on: May 27, 2012, 10:42:08 AM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 23, 2012, 11:08:32 AM
Are we hoping to influence DU in a positive direction?
NO. There is no influence over neanderthals. They dance around their campfire threads and we laugh at them.
That's the purpose of the DUmpster forum here at CC: We laugh at fools who profess to be wise.

There is no higher calling to this thread. We're just watching the antics at the monkey cage.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #114 on: May 27, 2012, 01:14:59 PM »
Quote from: indago on May 27, 2012, 10:22:20 AM
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Reciting the pledge is not required anywhere. It is however required for students to learn and recite the school's mission statement. 
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #115 on: May 28, 2012, 10:56:19 AM »
Quote from: Skul on May 26, 2012, 10:57:32 PM
You need to consider something.
You haven't been banned yet, have you?
Nope.
Had one of us gone to the DUmp, and raised such a ruckus, what would happen?
You think about that.
You're not going to be banned just for your differing opinions.
You're gonna be whacked and spanked, but, that's it.
Seriously, think about it.

When I first came here I looked into a few of the subjects: Economics; Politics; General.  I posted some responses to some of the posts, and started some threads.  Some in the cabal here wanted to play JunkYardDog instead.  I've been around the Web some.  I can do JunkYardDog with the best.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #116 on: May 28, 2012, 11:02:42 AM »
Quote from: indago on May 28, 2012, 10:56:19 AM
Some in the cabal here wanted to play JunkYardDog instead. 
Have you given any thought to the game "Shifting Alliances"?  If you want to win, then Trotsky is a poor role model.  Stalin would be a better role model than Trotsky.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #117 on: May 28, 2012, 11:30:10 AM »
Quote from: indago on May 28, 2012, 10:56:19 AM
When I first came here I looked into a few of the subjects: Economics; Politics; General.  I posted some responses to some of the posts, and started some threads.  Some in the cabal here wanted to play JunkYardDog instead.  I've been around the Web some.  I can do JunkYardDog with the best.

No, you can't.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #118 on: May 28, 2012, 12:48:38 PM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 28, 2012, 11:02:42 AM
Have you given any thought to the game "Shifting Alliances"?  If you want to win, then Trotsky is a poor role model.  Stalin would be a better role model than Trotsky.

What does that have to do with anything?
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #119 on: May 28, 2012, 12:58:45 PM »
Quote from: indago on May 28, 2012, 12:48:38 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
Boo is just trolling again. Demonstrating why he got his a$$ kicked outa DU.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #120 on: May 28, 2012, 01:00:36 PM »
Quote from: Zeus on May 26, 2012, 09:37:57 PM
A Christian Socialist

The troll is a Libtard...it's impossible for him to say or type the word Christian.

Besides...it messes up the meme.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #121 on: May 28, 2012, 01:36:22 PM »
Quote from: indago on May 28, 2012, 10:56:19 AM
When I first came here I looked into a few of the subjects: Economics; Politics; General.  I posted some responses to some of the posts, and started some threads.  Some in the cabal here wanted to play JunkYardDog instead.  I've been around the Web some.  I can do JunkYardDog with the best.

By all means then, have at it.

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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #122 on: May 28, 2012, 04:16:45 PM »
What's ingenius is to get one troll trolling on another troll. We must encourage this, then enjoy it when it happens.
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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #123 on: May 29, 2012, 01:59:34 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on May 28, 2012, 12:58:45 PM
why he got his a$$ kicked outa DU.
The reason given was: "homophobe."  The DU admins didn't say anything else.

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Re: Let's Bash the Pledge!
« Reply #124 on: May 29, 2012, 03:54:30 PM »
Quote from: Boojatta on May 29, 2012, 01:59:34 PM
The reason given was: "homophobe."  The DU admins didn't say anything else.


That's lib censorship for you.
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