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Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« on: November 02, 2011, 03:29:58 PM »
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-02-11 02:49 PM
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Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
 Remember how we roasted the right over their violent rhetoric? Can't we learn from that, and not make the same mistake?

I subscribed to a pro-Obama Facebook page, and they've been posting a lot of OWS stuff. Today, they posted a cartoon of a guillotine being built on Wall Street. I pointed out that this was not appropriate, and added that I would be un subscribing to the page, which I did.

A little while later I checked to see if anyone agreed with what I said (hoping the cartoon had been removed), and my post had been deleted.

We lose all credibility when we go against our stated values.
 

This won`t go over well.

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FSogol  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-02-11 02:52 PM
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2. Do we have guillotines around ready to be used on the rich? Isn't that just a metaphoric
 reference to the French Revolution rather than a call for violence?

 

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TheWraith (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-02-11 03:08 PM
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13. That's what Palin's people would have said about the crosshairs map.
 You know, the one that targeted Giffords.

It's never as much of a joke as people pretend it is. 

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RaleighNCDUer  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-02-11 03:21 PM
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20. Again - we don't HAVE guillotines. They HAVE guns.
 See the difference?

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TBF  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-02-11 02:58 PM
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8. My view is that the 1% are the ones waging war -
 and workers have no choice but to defend themselves. And I'm not going to preach to victims about how to defend themselves. They should just keep taking it, right?

 
 

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sabrina 1  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-02-11 03:13 PM
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18. The OWS movement is seriously non-violent, if people are
 representing themselves as part of that movement by using violence, they are not, they are most likely infiltrators. I wouldn't worry about it, and I would not have given them credit for being part of a non-violent movement by asking them to refrain from violence. It's clear if they are violent, they are not part of the movement, that has been made clear over and over again. I would simply make that point, that the minute they promote violence, they are exposed as infiltrators.

Yeah,right.  ::)

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blindpig (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-02-11 03:13 PM
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19. It is entirely appropriate
 
It of course references the French Revolution and the fate of a ruling class which has worn out it's welcome. They should take note, these sentiments are wide spread.

Pacifism is for sheep going to the slaughter. If we utterly accept the proposition that violence is the sole preserve of the State and this State is the tool of the ruling class then we consign ourselves to permanent servitude. **** that.

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RaleighNCDUer  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-02-11 03:29 PM
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24. Violence is always bad, even when absolutely necessary.
 The point is, violence is a nearly inevitable reaction to repression.

Reminding the 1% about the fate of their ideological progenitors is a decidedly NON-violent act - it is a warning of something they may refuse to believe can happen to them.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.

"Hand me all your money so I don`t have to kill you for it and please thank me for doing you a favor by warning you first".

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NightWatcher  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-02-11 03:53 PM
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29. if they're not scared of us, why would they change their ways?
 there needs to be a certain amount of fear that we'll storm their ivory castles and lop off their heads, else they'll not take us seriously

Just so you know...No one is taking you seriously.

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LanternWaste (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-02-11 03:54 PM
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30.  It's not a question of credibility, it's a question of literacy...
 I know the difference between language designed to incite and mere metaphor.I would think that the responsibility of anyone who is unable to grasp that particular facet of our language lays with them.

It's not a question of credibility, it's a question of literacy.

In other words it is whatever I want it to be,if a conservative does it then it is incitement.
If leftists (with history of violent "protests) does it then of course it isn`t.

My mind would explode trying to keep all the condradictions DUmmies have walled apart from each other.
No wonder so many proudly claim to be mentally ill.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 03:35:42 PM »
Justify justify justify...
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 03:35:43 PM »
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-02-11 02:49 PM
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Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
 Remember how we roasted the right over their violent rhetoric? Can't we learn from that, and not make the same mistake?

A lot of ironic snarks came to mind, like "When cows stay off grass," "When Taverner goes straight," or "When Obama admits he screwed the pooch and Socialism doesn't work after all."  But the answer is so obvious to anyone familiar with DU that it's just too easy a target.

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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 04:00:36 PM »
29. if they're not scared of us, why would they change their ways?

Who would have thought it possible? Out of the mouth of a DUmmie comes the answer to the welfare, foodstamp, disability fraud issue that is ruining us. OK, so do we put on our halloween costumes or pick up a gun to scare them?
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 04:05:02 PM »
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18. The OWS movement is seriously non-violent, if people are
 representing themselves as part of that movement by using violence, they are not, they are most likely infiltrators. I wouldn't worry about it, and I would not have given them credit for being part of a non-violent movement by asking them to refrain from violence. It's clear if they are violent, they are not part of the movement, that has been made clear over and over again. I would simply make that point, that the minute they promote violence, they are exposed as infiltrators.


Gee, DUmmie sabrina, are "infiltrators" the same as Stalin's "wreckers", "sabotuers" and other assorted economic instigators that he blamed the failing soviet system on in the 1930's?

You got the talk down, girl,
Now, if you were honestor or had the courage of your convictions, you would walk the walk carrying your red banner.

Until then, you probable trust fund bimbo, STFU.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 04:06:49 PM »
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Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
 Remember how we roasted the right over their violent rhetoric?


Still waiting for an example, and not the bullshit about Palin's "cross hairs".

However, if I Google, Leftist's Hang Bush...........

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&q=Leftists+Hang+Bush&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&oq=Leftists+Hang+Bush&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=1625l9469l0l11626l18l18l0l10l10l0l1047l2797l0.2.4.1.7-1l8l0
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 04:14:47 PM »
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NightWatcher  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-02-11 03:53 PM
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29. if they're not scared of us, why would they change their ways?
 there needs to be a certain amount of fear that we'll storm their ivory castles and lop off their heads, else they'll not take us seriously


Blah Blah Blah.

You're all talk *****.

That's why no one takes you seriously and the reason that you live to mooch another day.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 04:37:10 PM »
You idiot "99%ers" better make damn sure you actually are 99% of the population. I'm guessing you're about 10-15% so, bow up bitches.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2011, 04:41:06 PM »
That boats done sailed DUmmy. You asslickers have been calling for violence since Skinner paid for DU. One thing we on the right can count on is how much your lot are cowards.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2011, 04:52:25 PM »
When Giffords was shot by that left wing lunatic, the DUmp and all liberals were up in arms over violent rhetoric, now they have a movement that is based on "Eat the rich" and the guillotine may as well be their symbol, violent rhetoric is just fine.  :mental:

Sadly I foresee some of these idiots actually physically harming or even killing someone they think is the 1%, and I won't see liberals up in arms over OWS like they were towards Palin, who had nothing to do with it.  :banghead:

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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2011, 05:18:09 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 02, 2011, 04:52:25 PM
When Giffords was shot by that left wing lunatic, the DUmp and all liberals were up in arms over violent rhetoric, now they have a movement that is based on "Eat the rich" and the guillotine may as well be their symbol, violent rhetoric is just fine.  :mental:

Sadly I foresee some of these idiots actually physically harming or even killing someone they think is the 1%, and I won't see liberals up in arms over OWS like they were towards Palin, who had nothing to do with it.  :banghead:


Warren Buffet, john F'ing Kerry, any Kennedy and John Corzine will be safe. Them occupoopers loves them some liberal icons.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2011, 05:26:29 PM »
I remember the DU primer on how best to throw a Molotov cocktail at PEOPLE. It was printed here.

I remember the collective orgasm at DU when Fired workers in India burned to death an executive who had nothing to do with their firing. many threads were quoted here.

How many threads were pulled because they threatened death to conservatives...and how many stayed up?

DU is watched by the FBI for a reason...They have ALWAYS advocated violence and violent revolution.

DUers...If you guys are reading this, you KNOW I'm right. You are despicable hypocrites.

I'm expecting the left to turn violent by next summer. And I know DU will justify it. 
Come on DU, prove me wrong.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 05:35:59 PM »
Wow , these clowns always claim about the right using "dog whistle" language to threaten the left but they are right smack dab in the middle of 20Hz to 20kHz. No doubt about their intentions yet they claim it's nuance and metafore and that we misunderstand them.
WTF!
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2011, 08:19:55 PM »
Quote from: Airwolf on November 02, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
That boats done sailed DUmmy. You asslickers have been calling for violence since Skinner paid for DU. One thing we on the right can count on is how much your lot are cowards.

My open letter to Occupy (insert city here) and their useful idiot DUmbass comrades:

Do not delude yourself into thinking you truly represent 99% of Americans. I have neither elected nor appointed you to represent me, nor do you speak for me or anyone I know. I find your juvenile whining and demands for "fairness" and "social justice" to be worthy of derision; I find you as people to be mildly amusing at best, and annoying at worst.

I don't go to the parks and streetcorners where you huddle in your own filth and demand the system give you what you have not earned. I choose to avoid you; in exchange, I expect only one thing from you- to leave me and mine in peace. As long as your words are only words, I have no interest in you beyond cheap entertainment. So keep ranting and chanting, and best of luck to you during the long, cold winter.

But if you ever cross the line and truly threaten my safety, the safety of the people I love, my home, or my livelihood, you will attract my attention in a way you aren't prepared for. Like a million other men and women in this country, I am ready, mentally and physically, to spill your blood to protect what is important to me. That is a lesson about life you don't want to learn, have no doubt.

In closing, let me offer two pearl of wisdom for your consideration: Anarchy- it doesn't mean what you think it means;  and You shouldn't bring a guillotine to a gunfight.



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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2011, 08:27:02 PM »
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Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
No. You can't. All your leftist heroes are insanely violent mass murderers. You guys even approve of the French Terror.

Sometimes you just have to play the hand you're dealt. Or fold 'em.

But we both know that isn't going to happen. If you're still a DUmmie in the age of You Tube, there is little hope for the salvation of your intellect.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2011, 09:12:27 PM »
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Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?

 :lmao: I defy DU as a collective whole to do so.

 :whatever: Yeah, that's gonnoa happen.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 09:15:45 PM »
Congratulations, "Courtesy Flush". You've just been labeled a "counter-revolutionary". Enjoy your blacklisting from the dregs at DU.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 09:16:21 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on November 02, 2011, 05:26:29 PM
I remember the DU primer on how best to throw a Molotov cocktail at PEOPLE. It was printed here.

I remember the collective orgasm at DU when Fired workers in India burned to death an executive who had nothing to do with their firing. many threads were quoted here.

How many threads were pulled because they threatened death to conservatives...and how many stayed up?

DU is watched by the FBI for a reason...They have ALWAYS advocated violence and violent revolution.

DUers...If you guys are reading this, you KNOW I'm right. You are despicable hypocrites.

I'm expecting the left to turn violent by next summer. And I know DU will justify it. 
Come on DU, prove me wrong.

Hi5 and I'm betting at the end of the year or just after.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2011, 06:55:38 AM »
Quote from: Airwolf on November 02, 2011, 09:16:21 PM
Hi5 and I'm betting at the end of the year or just after.

I'm thinking right after The Obamessiah is voted out.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 09:52:06 AM »
Current population of Oakland:  390,724

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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 02:18:08 PM »
They've been making open threats of violence on their threads since the Bush Administration.
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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 02:23:23 PM »
Political violence and the related threats are owned 100% by the left for over 250 years.

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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2011, 02:25:19 PM »
Quote from: movie buff on November 03, 2011, 02:18:08 PM
They've been making open threats of violence on their threads since the Bush Administration.

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Re: Can we keep away from threats of violence, even in jest?
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2011, 02:40:35 PM »
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We lose all credibility when we go against our stated values.
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20. Again - we don't HAVE guillotines. They HAVE guns.
 See the difference?


Not so fast there.  At least one of you DUmmies has one.  Or at least had one until he couldn't figure out how to use it properly...
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