Lawmakers announce compromise budget deal

[Pretzel Warrior]

Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., and Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., the top lawmakers on budgetary issues in their respective chambers announced a fiscal framework that would help eliminate the constant threat of a government shutdown under which lawmakers have worked for the better part of the last three years.

The announcement follows a day full of fine-tuning the details of the agreement, which covers the next two fiscal years and set a top-line budget number for each year. The House, where conservatives could upend the agreement if they refuse to vote for it, was slated to act first this week on the legislation. 

The framework would set spending levels above the $967 billion cap established by the sequester; the budget for 2014 would be set at $1.012 trillion, and the budget for 2015 would be $1.014 trillion. Appropriators will be charged with detailing the particular spending within those limits.

NBC News


This is a good Christmas present for America. It will be nice if we can go into the new year without the budget impasse hanging over our heads.

[EagleKeeper]

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/10/21851499-lawmakers-announce-compromise-budget-deal?lite

This is a good Christmas present for America. It will be nice if we can go into the new year without the budget impasse hanging over our heads.

It wonder how many pages this spending bill contains. I think it would be nice if they had more then less then a week before it brought to a vote in the house.

[obumazombie]

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/10/21851499-lawmakers-announce-compromise-budget-deal?lite

This is a good Christmas present for America. It will be nice if we can go into the new year without the budget impasse hanging over our heads.

It's a continuing resolution. Ever since owebuma took over there has been no budget. Lib/dem/socialists are not responsible enough to pass a budget. Let alone a balanced budget. Now our deficits and debt have left us in a position where even a balanced budget doesn't do much good. Now what we really need is many surplus budgets with the surplus going to pay off our debt.

[Carl]

You mean like all of Bush's balanced budgets when he had a GOP House and Senate?

I am leaving this thread up as it qualifies as breaking news...if you want to discuss the merits of it or defend criticism there will be a level of toleration.
Having said that you are also now capable of having arguments in the forum designed for that so this kind of non related to the topic antagonizing is not going to fly.

Thank you.

 

[Pretzel Warrior]

I am leaving this thread up as it qualifies as breaking news...if you want to discuss the merits of it or defend criticism there will be a level of toleration.
Having said that you are also now capable of having arguments in the forum designed for that so this kind of non related to the topic antagonizing is not going to fly.

Thank you.

 

Got it. I was merely responding to the comments people were throwing out there to a fairly straightforward headline I thought all would welcome.

[Carl]

Got it. I was merely responding to the comments people were throwing out there to a fairly straightforward headline I thought all would welcome.

Understand that the particulars of any deal may or may not be viewed positively nor a deal in itself if one feels it compromises principles.
Some may feel it politically expedient despite such especially given the wake up call an actually implemented Ocare has turned out to be.

Lets try to keep discussions pertinent to the actual topic at hand.

[Lacarnut]

Oh Boy, spending is going up. We should all celebrate the stupidity of Rep Ryan. Just another politician sucking eggs to get re-elected or running for higher office.

[MD]

You know, this isnt the greatest deal ever but frankly im glad we got it.  I know it increases spending but right now we really need to think Big Picture.

The absolute last thing we want to do now is give any ammo to Democrats in any way.  It wouldnt put it past me that if they didnt get this deal they would torpedo the entire thing to try to force another shutdown and hope to God people side with them so they can regain some footing after the Obamnacare debacle.


I know that isnt going to be very popular among conservatives but I guess ide rather spend a few billion more to give us the best chance possible to take the Senate next year.  I weigh stopping Obama from packing the courts with libtards more than that increase.  Plus, were still below Sequester levels which is a small victory in itself.  How many times has Congress simply ignored their previous "limits" to increase spending?  I was expecting Boehner to cave on those levels during the shutdown and figured we would be back to "SPEND SPEND SPEND!" already.

[FlaGator]

I'm happy with it because, among other things, it doesn't create any new conservative straw men for the liberals to attack and use against republicans in November.

[EagleKeeper]

You know, this isnt the greatest deal ever but frankly im glad we got it.  I know it increases spending but right now we really need to think Big Picture.

The absolute last thing we want to do now is give any ammo to Democrats in any way.  It wouldnt put it past me that if they didnt get this deal they would torpedo the entire thing to try to force another shutdown and hope to God people side with them so they can regain some footing after the Obamnacare debacle.


I know that isnt going to be very popular among conservatives but I guess ide rather spend a few billion more to give us the best chance possible to take the Senate next year.  I weigh stopping Obama from packing the courts with libtards more than that increase.  Plus, were still below Sequester levels which is a small victory in itself.  How many times has Congress simply ignored their previous "limits" to increase spending?  I was expecting Boehner to cave on those levels during the shutdown and figured we would be back to "SPEND SPEND SPEND!" already.

Look, their looking to bring this up this week for a vote I'd like to give it at least a day or 10 so that some knowledgeable people to have a look at it and give it a thumbs up or down.

Have you read the bill?

I know that isnt going to be very popular among conservatives

Do you think it should be the same day that it comes out?

I weigh stopping Obama from packing the courts with libtards more than that increase

I think your a little too late to the game, at least with the DC circuit.

Edit: at least so far, you should be happy that I don't alter the deal any further.

A momentary bit of levity

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE[/youtube]

Plus, were still below Sequester levels which is a small victory in itself.

I don't believe that, I'll leave that to voices I trust.

[Freeper]

The way I see it we are pretty screwed anyway, so this really doesn't matter. Things won't get any better until we can get the dems out and some republicans in with the desire to actually do something about this whole mess.

[Lacarnut]

I'm happy with it because, among other things, it doesn't create any new conservative straw men for the liberals to attack and use against republicans in November.

If conservatives keep crawfishing, they will be all the way down at the bottom of their hole instead of halfway.

On the other hand, these two birds are not relevant. Reid will not allow a vote on a bill that King Obama does not approve of. So, it up to the Magic Negro to dictate what he wants. Anyone that thinks different is just whistling Dixie.

[DefiantSix]

I am embarrassed for my country that the redefining of previously commonly understood terms by progressive traitors in both parties as gotten as far as it has. My great, great waaaay the hell back there uncle (Gen. Washington, for Pretzel Warrior and others recently joining our little discussion board) would be shooting government functionaries long before the insanity and  tyranny reached these levels.

So, allow me to inject a little reality to the discussion.

First; this isn't a "budget deal", nor anything like unto one. This is the Congress once again failing to live up to it's most basic constitutional function: to control the Godforsaken pursestrings of the government. This is the ethical retards and spineless cowards in Congress telling Dear Leader, "it's okay, we know it's been a long *******ed time since there's been a positive balance on the nation's account books, but we'll continue to look the other way while you continue to kite checks into a bottomless ****in' pit."

Second: this is all a kabuke theater show for the idiot masses; nothing more, nothing less.  It doesn't matter a damn what the retards in Congress put in the damned bill because the ReichMessiah has no intention of being constrained by anything: act of Congress and constitutional mandate alike. Hell, The Holy WON of ShitCago can't even be constrained to follow the text of his own signature piece of legislation (that's Obama(don't)Care, lurking DUmbasses) what the hell makes you think Dear Leader will let a retarded assclown like Paul Ryan tell him what he can and can't do?

Third: "$1,012 billion in new spending", based on what, exactly?  Where precisely is this money coming from? The magic printing presses at the Federal Reserve?  The Treasury Bonds that the Fed continues to "monetize"? The ChiComs aren't buying our debt anymore, sure as shit.We have gone from $9 trillion to $18 trillion in a hole in the span of little more than 5 years, and what precisely do we have to show for it? What do we expect to have in hand when this trillion plus bucks that we as a nation DO. NOT. HAVE. is spent? And last but by no means least, before you go and start trusting these figures the asshat Paul Ryan has churned out so he can say he worked with the other side and got a budget deal through when he goes home to fool his just as stupid (apparently) constituents into re-electing his retarded ass once again, why have there been no explanations given - or asked for, for that matter - as to why, from about mid-April through about August-September-ish, the Department of the *******ed Treasury reported EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF DEBT - about $25 million below the last $17 point what-the-****-ever Trillion debt limit - every single day of that period? Am I the only one for whom that seems the least bit/fraudulent?

Folks if after the lasst 5 years you still trust the Federal Government, or any branch of the same, any further than you could throw it, and as such think that this continuing resolution is a good thing, then you deserve the ass-raping you are about to receive.

[EagleKeeper]

Well, I guess the good thing is that we have less then a week to think about it before it passes out of the house?

I'm going to edit this into my post because I don't want to drown out Defiantsix post cause I think it's awesome.

I want you to ask yourself one thing, did we learn anything during the government shutdown?

First and foremost did we learn that maybe the government could do without "unessential personnel" the same personnel that showed up to do stupid unessential things?

Have we not learned that the government makes things hurt that It doesn't need to hurt, do they not go out of their way to make things hurt?

The government is making everything illegal, do you know what happens then? Does the government even take the same time to follow the same laws they pass?

Rule by fiat, regulation, should I say thank God we only lost 13 billion to GM, how many billions have been lost to the EPA?

[txradioguy]

And it will die in the Senate where Harry Reid will refuse to bring anything to a vote that doesn't include an extension of the unemployment benefits so that people too lazy to get a job will continue to be lazy.

[txradioguy]

I am embarrassed for my country that the redefining of previously commonly understood terms by progressive traitors in both parties as gotten as far as it has. My great, great waaaay the hell back there uncle (Gen. Washington, for Pretzel Warrior and others recently joining our little discussion board) would be shooting government functionaries long before the insanity and  tyranny reached these levels.

So, allow me to inject a little reality to the discussion.

First; this isn't a "budget deal", nor anything like unto one. This is the Congress once again failing to live up to it's most basic constitutional function: to control the Godforsaken pursestrings of the government. This is the ethical retards and spineless cowards in Congress telling Dear Leader, "it's okay, we know it's been a long *******ed time since there's been a positive balance on the nation's account books, but we'll continue to look the other way while you continue to kite checks into a bottomless ****in' pit."

Second: this is all a kabuke theater show for the idiot masses; nothing more, nothing less.  It doesn't matter a damn what the retards in Congress put in the damned bill because the ReichMessiah has no intention of being constrained by anything: act of Congress and constitutional mandate alike. Hell, The Holy WON of ShitCago can't even be constrained to follow the text of his own signature piece of legislation (that's Obama(don't)Care, lurking DUmbasses) what the hell makes you think Dear Leader will let a retarded assclown like Paul Ryan tell him what he can and can't do?

Third: "$1,012 billion in new spending", based on what, exactly?  Where precisely is this money coming from? The magic printing presses at the Federal Reserve?  The Treasury Bonds that the Fed continues to "monetize"? The ChiComs aren't buying our debt anymore, sure as shit.We have gone from $9 trillion to $18 trillion in a hole in the span of little more than 5 years, and what precisely do we have to show for it? What do we expect to have in hand when this trillion plus bucks that we as a nation DO. NOT. HAVE. is spent? And last but by no means least, before you go and start trusting these figures the asshat Paul Ryan has churned out so he can say he worked with the other side and got a budget deal through when he goes home to fool his just as stupid (apparently) constituents into re-electing his retarded ass once again, why have there been no explanations given - or asked for, for that matter - as to why, from about mid-April through about August-September-ish, the Department of the *******ed Treasury reported EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF DEBT - about $25 million below the last $17 point what-the-****-ever Trillion debt limit - every single day of that period? Am I the only one for whom that seems the least bit/fraudulent?

Folks if after the lasst 5 years you still trust the Federal Government, or any branch of the same, any further than you could throw it, and as such think that this continuing resolution is a good thing, then you deserve the ass-raping you are about to receive.

[EagleKeeper]

And it will die in the Senate where Harry Reid will refuse to bring anything to a vote that doesn't include an extension of the unemployment benefits so that people too lazy to get a job will continue to be lazy.

Your words to Gods ears.

[Wineslob]

Where precisely is this money coming from?

Some of it from an increase in airline ticket taxes and, of course, thin air..


Gee, how wounderful. 

[Lacarnut]

I am embarrassed for my country that the redefining of previously commonly understood terms by progressive traitors in both parties as gotten as far as it has. My great, great waaaay the hell back there uncle (Gen. Washington, for Pretzel Warrior and others recently joining our little discussion board) would be shooting government functionaries long before the insanity and  tyranny reached these levels.

So, allow me to inject a little reality to the discussion.

First; this isn't a "budget deal", nor anything like unto one. This is the Congress once again failing to live up to it's most basic constitutional function: to control the Godforsaken pursestrings of the government. This is the ethical retards and spineless cowards in Congress telling Dear Leader, "it's okay, we know it's been a long *******ed time since there's been a positive balance on the nation's account books, but we'll continue to look the other way while you continue to kite checks into a bottomless ****in' pit."

Second: this is all a kabuke theater show for the idiot masses; nothing more, nothing less.  It doesn't matter a damn what the retards in Congress put in the damned bill because the ReichMessiah has no intention of being constrained by anything: act of Congress and constitutional mandate alike. Hell, The Holy WON of ShitCago can't even be constrained to follow the text of his own signature piece of legislation (that's Obama(don't)Care, lurking DUmbasses) what the hell makes you think Dear Leader will let a retarded assclown like Paul Ryan tell him what he can and can't do?

Third: "$1,012 billion in new spending", based on what, exactly?  Where precisely is this money coming from? The magic printing presses at the Federal Reserve?  The Treasury Bonds that the Fed continues to "monetize"? The ChiComs aren't buying our debt anymore, sure as shit.We have gone from $9 trillion to $18 trillion in a hole in the span of little more than 5 years, and what precisely do we have to show for it? What do we expect to have in hand when this trillion plus bucks that we as a nation DO. NOT. HAVE. is spent? And last but by no means least, before you go and start trusting these figures the asshat Paul Ryan has churned out so he can say he worked with the other side and got a budget deal through when he goes home to fool his just as stupid (apparently) constituents into re-electing his retarded ass once again, why have there been no explanations given - or asked for, for that matter - as to why, from about mid-April through about August-September-ish, the Department of the *******ed Treasury reported EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF DEBT - about $25 million below the last $17 point what-the-****-ever Trillion debt limit - every single day of that period? Am I the only one for whom that seems the least bit/fraudulent?

Folks if after the lasst 5 years you still trust the Federal Government, or any branch of the same, any further than you could throw it, and as such think that this continuing resolution is a good thing, then you deserve the ass-raping you are about to receive.

I share your sentiments. Anyone that thinks this is a good deal must enjoy getting the shaft. The GOP will cave cause all the clowns in DC want to get re-elected and Obama will tell them how the cow ate the cabbage. So, what does it matter what Ryan and Murray come up with. This will be political theater with Bonehead getting his dumb face on TV while holding a COFFEE MUG. Shame we can not throw every one of these bums out.

[wasp69]

This is a good Christmas present for America. It will be nice if we can go into the new year without the budget impasse hanging over our heads.

I suppose we'll have to see what happens.  If recent history is any indicator, either some idiot will attach some stupid rider to it or Harry Reid will add to the pile that is already on his desk.

[Dori]

H5 DefiantSix

[obumazombie]

I am confidant that by now the OP's assertion that this bill is a "good christmas present for America" has been thoroughly debunked.

[Lacarnut]

Bonehead Boehner has criticized conservatives organizations such as the ones that Paul and Cruz belong to who are against this increased budget proposal. Did not take long for this turkey to show his RINO stripes. 

[Ptarmigan]

Bonehead Boehner has criticized conservatives organizations such as the ones that Paul and Cruz belong to who are against this increased budget proposal. Did not take long for this turkey to show his RINO stripes. 

Never liked him.

[DLR Pyro]

This is a good Christmas present for America. It will be nice if we can go into the new year without the budget impasse hanging over our heads.

if obama had any leadership skills we would have never had a budget impasse hanging over our heads since he took office.