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Current Events => Terrorism In the US and Around the World => Boston Marathon Bombing => Topic started by: Firekrakka on April 20, 2013, 07:29:28 PM
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Wasn't sure where to post this so feel free to move this.
The stupid, it burns.
The wrong answer to terrorism is what we're doing right now.
What our government is teaching prospective terrorists is that all they have to do is manage to get two jackasses who are willing to die to commit mass-murder, even if they kind of suck at it (let's face it, when they blew up those bombs in Boston they did commit their intended deed but an hour earlier and 10x as many people would be dead or missing legs.)
Then they pop a cop trying to rip off a convenience store and toss (non-working; they didn't explode) bombs out the window while trying to elude the cops.
The payoff for doing this is that an entire city shuts down to literal empty sidewalks and train service is halted along a hundred-mile+ stretch.
Even worse now the authorities are allegedly preventing residents who were away from their homes from returning there! You are now being forcibly dispossessed of your residence! Yeah, it's temporary, but so what -- that's my damned house, not yours! Get the hell out of my way!
Need I remind people that the entire point of terrorism is to terrorize? To create economic havoc in a given area through violence, and by doing so advance some social or political goal?
What sort of lesson is the jackass in the Oval Office along with those crap-for-brains idiots in Massachusetts sending to our enemies around the world?
Two *******s shut down a city of 7 million people who then cower in fear in their homes.
Screw that and screw them.
What should be the response is that every American who lives in that area should go about their business while openly carrying a pistol, rifle or both.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=219949
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H5 for posting this.
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The stupid, it burns.
It certainly does. How embarrassing for you.
The wrong answer to terrorism is what we're doing right now.
If you mean refusal to profile then yes. If you mean what Boston did? uh, no.
What our government is teaching prospective terrorists is that all they have to do is manage to get two jackasses who are willing to die to commit mass-murder, even if they kind of suck at it (let's face it, when they blew up those bombs in Boston they did commit their intended deed but an hour earlier and 10x as many people would be dead or missing legs.)
Well halfwit, they weren't willing to die. They never expected to be caught. They had more bombs and were planning more attacks. They also went to the race when security was at it's most lax - an hour earlier there were still too many dignataries there.
Then they pop a cop trying to rip off a convenience store and toss (non-working; they didn't explode) bombs out the window while trying to elude the cops.
Yeah about that, no. They were at a convenience store to buy food when it was being robbed. The bombs that were tossed worked (ask the cops who were injured).
The payoff for doing this is that an entire city shuts down to literal empty sidewalks and train service is halted along a hundred-mile+ stretch.
About that - the payoff of dropping IEDs and another pressure cooker bomb out the window is what shut down the city. That and one suspect on the loose with an undetermined amount of explosives and/or suicide belt. But by all means, go about your business Boston. Just pay no attention to the crap on the roads, especially to the folks on bikes.
Even worse now the authorities are allegedly preventing residents who were away from their homes from returning there! You are now being forcibly dispossessed of your residence! Yeah, it's temporary, but so what -- that's my damned house, not yours! Get the hell out of my way!
Oooh, bad ass here. Please refer to the stupid and how it burns.
Need I remind people that the entire point of terrorism is to terrorize? To create economic havoc in a given area through violence, and by doing so advance some social or political goal?
The City was shut down for ONE DAY. The suspect was caught. The city was sweeped for IEDs and they were removed. Back to business as usual, except you see a state united, with a steely resolve. Your way? the suspect is still out there, people continue to live in fear. The IEDs? meh, maybe they don't go off right?
What sort of lesson is the jackass in the Oval Office along with those crap-for-brains idiots in Massachusetts sending to our enemies around the world?
Stay the **** out of Boston. :afro:
Two *******s shut down a city of 7 million people who then cower in fear in their homes.
No one was cowering in fear. Everyone was cooperating so law enforcement could catch the POS. Perhaps you missed the celebration after?
Screw that and screw them.
Tough guys of the internet - should be a sitcom.
What should be the response is that every American who lives in that area should go about their business while openly carrying a pistol, rifle or both.
Shoot that IED!!! Yeah, that's the ticket. :whatever:
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By saying "you" I assume you're addressing the writer of the quote and not the poster.
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I hope so. Pretty sad when someone can't differentiate between the two. :lmao:
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I hope so. Pretty sad when someone can't differentiate between the two. :lmao:
Yes it is. I think it is pretty clear that my post was directed to the moronic blog you brought over here.
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Yes it is. I think it is pretty clear that my post was directed to the moronic blog you brought over here.
Well, moronic blog or not, this part I'm in full accord with:
What we should be doing is slinging weapons and going about our business, willing and able to discharge our duty as citizens toward both common and personal defense.
The part about slinging weapons is optional. But two punk terrorists that successfully paralyze a city to the extent they did have succeeded. I can well imagine more jihadists with more backpacks at more public outings doing the same stuff.
Just think about how much paralysis an entire cell of terrorists could cause! In NYC! Or even D.C.! The mind boggles! :lmao:
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In my mind, this bombing reinforces our need for a robust and solid second amendment without any further restrictions.
Gun grabbers can fend for themselves.
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Well, moronic blog or not, this part I'm in full accord with:
The part about slinging weapons is optional. But two punk terrorists that successfully paralyze a city to the extent they did have succeeded. I can well imagine more jihadists with more backpacks at more public outings doing the same stuff.
Just think about how much paralysis an entire cell of terrorists could cause! In NYC! Or even D.C.! The mind boggles! :lmao:
They dropped IEDs in multiple cities. They had to sweep for them (while they conducted search), which was reason for lockdown in a handful of towns. They also had no idea if he was wearing suicide belt or what he had still on him for bombs.
Your gun isn't any match to his grenade. NYC would have done same thing.
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They dropped IEDs in multiple cities. They had to sweep for them (while they conducted search), which was reason for lockdown in a handful of towns. They also had no idea if he was wearing suicide belt or what he had still on him for bombs.
Your gun isn't any match to his grenade. NYC would have done same thing.
Probably, but that is nothing to be proud of.
Your governor just showed potential terrorists that they can bring a Massachusetts city to a standstill.
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Probably, but that is nothing to be proud of.
Your governor just showed potential terrorists that they can bring a Massachusetts city to a standstill.
You litter any city in the United States with bombs, it's going to be shut down.
That's not rocket science.
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I want to point out the lockdown lasted 22 hours. One dead, the other captured.
They won when the bombs went off at the marathon. Boston ended it however on their terms - not the terrorists.
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This idea of "jihadists stay out of Boston" just won't fly. If I'm a terrorist, then cities like Boston and SF are still my primary targets. These groups understand the same thing about liberals that we do, and that is the residents there will bend over backwards to be "tolerant," even after this.
Look, these residents voted for Ted Kennedy for years. That automatically tells me they're just not very bright and can easily be taken advantage of. A little more planning and thought by these two brothers and they would have never been caught. If there are sleeper cells, they won't make these same mistakes, and they'll do it knowing they can hide out in the open in liberal cities like Boston.
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This idea of "jihadists stay out of Boston" just won't fly. If I'm a terrorist, then cities like Boston and SF are still my primary targets. These groups understand the same thing about liberals that we do, and that is the residents there will bend over backwards to be "tolerant," even after this.
Look, these residents voted for Ted Kennedy for years. That automatically tells me they're just not very bright and can easily be taken advantage of. A little more planning and thought by these two brothers and they would have never been caught. If there are sleeper cells, they won't make these same mistakes, and they'll do it knowing they can hide out in the open in liberal cities like Boston.
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Uh never been caught? Do you know how they were identified? Better planning wouldn't have prevented that.
They pick urban cities because of diversity, but what is amusing is you think your state is somehow immune.
That's complacency. Lots of things have to be changed to better equip this country to sufficiently stop this from happening. That has very little to do with Boston.
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I do believe better planning would permit terrorists to get away with these acts. To believe otherwise would be to believe it's impossible not to carry out a terrorist attack and get away with it, and that's just not true.
Do I believe a Boston or a SF are more likely to be targeted over large cities that are traditionally more conservative? Yes, I do and for all the reasons I mentioned. It'd be nice to think that, after this incident, the residents of Boston would grow up and become conservative, but I just don't see it happening. I'll watch their elections and see if they've learned anything. More than likely the liberal mindset of those who live in these LW cities will remain the same, and it will cost them more lives.
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Probably, but that is nothing to be proud of.
Your governor just showed potential terrorists that they can bring a Massachusetts city to a standstill.
Bingo. And that's the point, FL. The jihadists have won.
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They dropped IEDs in multiple cities. They had to sweep for them (while they conducted search), which was reason for lockdown in a handful of towns. They also had no idea if he was wearing suicide belt or what he had still on him for bombs.
Your gun isn't any match to his grenade. NYC would have done same thing.
Well, don't get me wrong. I'm not a badass and I don't act like one. It's not like I'm swaggering from Boston to Watertown and back, armed with my little arsenal looking for the bastards.
I haven't heard the actual language from the Mass. authorities to lock the city/area down, but if it wasn't couched in the form of a REQUEST rather than an ORDER, they can go **** themselves.
Bombs or not, we're talking about two PUNKS. They've got bombs, they've got weapons, they've got grenades. They are still TWO PUNKS.
It's shameful for a politician to actually stand there and shut a city down because of two punks.
If they can shut a city down for 22 hours with two punks and their "amateurish terrorism" (so sayeth an imam on muzzie TV), just imagine what they can do with a couple cells of al Qaeda! Golly gee, Batman! :whatever:
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Boston bombers: FBI hunting 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell†linked to brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844#.UXM54Yqm6hA.twitter#ixzz2RAOOqEdX
More than 1,000 FBI operatives were last night working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar’s dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.
A source close to the investigation said: “We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.
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Well, don't get me wrong. I'm not a badass and I don't act like one. It's not like I'm swaggering from Boston to Watertown and back, armed with my little arsenal looking for the bastards.
I haven't heard the actual language from the Mass. authorities to lock the city/area down, but if it wasn't couched in the form of a REQUEST rather than an ORDER, they can go **** themselves.
Bombs or not, we're talking about two PUNKS. They've got bombs, they've got weapons, they've got grenades. They are still TWO PUNKS.
It's shameful for a politician to actually stand there and shut a city down because of two punks.
If they can shut a city down for 22 hours with two punks and their "amateurish terrorism" (so sayeth an imam on muzzie TV), just imagine what they can do with a couple cells of al Qaeda! Golly gee, Batman! :whatever:
It was a shelter in place. It was asked of the residents, who complied. It did not happen until these two PUNKS put IEDs on the road throughout many areas.
It would be the height of total incompetence for any police commissioner/governor to not do the same when there are bombs littering the streets of a city/town. The dead suspect had a suicide belt on - so the PUNK was a wee bit more than your garden variety PUNK. ;)
Sleeper cells means they are living among us; are our co-workers and neighbors. They can inflict a hell of a lot of damage, and yeah if they have a lot of bombs they are going to shut down a city. It is really that simple and gosh gee oops, I guess the governor of MA revealed that little secret! Our bad.
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Bingo. And that's the point, FL. The jihadists have won.
They won when the bombs went off at the marathon. They won when they made the bombs. They won when the FBI dropped the ball on the older brother and wrote him off as a non-threat.
WTF are you obsessing over a manhunt that lasted all of 22 hours for? Oh I know, because it's Boston. Got it. :whatever:
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I do believe better planning would permit terrorists to get away with these acts.
Really, how?
To believe otherwise would be to believe it's impossible not to carry out a terrorist attack and get away with it, and that's just not true.
Like this one, at the Boston Marathon? ok - how?
Do I believe a Boston or a SF are more likely to be targeted over large cities that are traditionally more conservative? Yes, I do and for all the reasons I mentioned. It'd be nice to think that, after this incident, the residents of Boston would grow up and become conservative, but I just don't see it happening. I'll watch their elections and see if they've learned anything. More than likely the liberal mindset of those who live in these LW cities will remain the same, and it will cost them more lives.
That just makes no sense at all whatsoever. You think you are immune because you live in a conservative area? That just defies logic on every level.
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I want to point out the lockdown lasted 22 hours. One dead, the other captured.
They won when the bombs went off at the marathon. Boston ended it however on their terms - not the terrorists.
That's right. For 22 hours, 4.6 million people over 4,600 square miles hid in their homes, because of one man.
Businesses and schools were closed. Transportation was stopped. Untold millions of dollars were lost in commerce.
Since a purpose of terrorism is to instill terror in a population, they certainly did 'win' when they set off the first bombs. They won again when your governor told you to hide in your homes. Your children learned that your response to threats will be to hide, and hope the government saves you from the bad people. You allowed yourself to be ruled by fear. In most of the United States, that is not considered a conservative philosophy.
And "Boston" did not end it on the city's terms. The first brother was killed, which was likely his intent, in Watertown (not Boston). He ended it on his terms. The younger brother was able to elude the manhunt, and was located by a Watertown citizen (not a Bostonian). He walked out and surrendered, as this photograph shows, so he also ended it on his terms.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/conscave/suspect-boat_zpsc82cb8a9.jpg)
Not much there to beat your chest about.
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Really, how?
Like this one, at the Boston Marathon? ok - how?
I know better than to never say never. You are aware there have been terrorists attacks where the perps haven't been caught. If it can happen around the world, it can happen in the USA, too.
That just makes no sense at all whatsoever. You think you are immune because you live in a conservative area? That just defies logic on every level.
Not immune, but less likely, sure I believe that. It just goes with the LW mindset that they want to be seen as tolerant and they go out of their way to be overly tolerant towards those they view as being especially subject to discrimination. Com'n, you've watched them act that way as much as the rest of us have. That attitude lends itself to terrorists being able to do things and residents being unwilling to suspect because it wouldn't be PC.
So where are the areas that are more likely to be so tolerant as to overlook suspicious behavior? I'd have to say the big cities along the Eastern seaboard (Philly, NYC, Boston primarily), and on the West coast probably LA, SF, and Seattle. There's your LW hotbeds right there. Akhmed the Arab is certainly going to get fewer funny looks about who he is and what he's up to in Seattle than he would in Dallas/Ft.Worth.
Look, this is a suspicion I have based upon how liberals behave. I'm not seeing other people jumping on the bandwagon telling me I'm wrong because I suspect most others here understand what I'm saying and agree to one degree or another. I mean, look at the left now. It's becoming more and more evident these two were influenced by radical Islam, and these libs are still trying to tie it to the RW, and the gun culture, and everything else but what it is. Now when it's staring them straight in the face and they're still denying it, why would I believe they're going to go to any new measures to be more observant of potential radical muslims living around them?
I think part of this is because it's Boston and you tend to defend Boston and Massachusetts. That's fine, you live there so you have a connection most of us here don't. But you also don't have the prespective we have as outsiders looking in, either. You're in a very liberal area, and they just don't change their spots.
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That's right. For 22 hours, 4.6 million people over 4,600 square miles hid in their homes, because of one man.
Businesses and schools were closed. Transportation was stopped. Untold millions of dollars were lost in commerce.
Since a purpose of terrorism is to instill terror in a population, they certainly did 'win' when they set off the first bombs. They won again when your governor told you to hide in your homes. Your children learned that your response to threats will be to hide, and hope the government saves you from the bad people. You allowed yourself to be ruled by fear. In most of the United States, that is not considered a conservative philosophy.
And "Boston" did not end it on the city's terms. The first brother was killed, which was likely his intent, in Watertown (not Boston). He ended it on his terms. The younger brother was able to elude the manhunt, and was located by a Watertown citizen (not a Bostonian). He walked out and surrendered, as this photograph shows, so he also ended it on his terms.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/conscave/suspect-boat_zpsc82cb8a9.jpg)
Not much there to beat your chest about.
Hi5
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FL, the one mistake you basically made was the "no profiling" bit.
Sorry, but given the track record, profiling is EXACTLY what the police should be doing. Just sayin.
And right now, the Boston police chief looks like a dolt. As do Patrick and Menino.
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They won when the bombs went off at the marathon. They won when they made the bombs. They won when the FBI dropped the ball on the older brother and wrote him off as a non-threat.
WTF are you obsessing over a manhunt that lasted all of 22 hours for? Oh I know, because it's Boston. Got it. :whatever:
And yet you have idiots complaining that it took as long as it did. RESIDENTS were complaining.
Apparently they're not aware of the little fact that life is not an episode of CSI. Ask them how long it took to catch Rudolph, the Unabomber, etc.
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That just makes no sense at all whatsoever. You think you are immune because you live in a conservative area? That just defies logic on every level.
No, because there isn't shit out where we live. So it goes. Population centers are where the hajis are going to target, not some podunk town in NH, MO, or ID. But the fact the people in those places are far, far better armed than the sheeple of Boston, NYC, SF, etc., sure makes it a lot easier for them, wouldn't you say?
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This idea of "jihadists stay out of Boston" just won't fly. If I'm a terrorist, then cities like Boston and SF are still my primary targets. These groups understand the same thing about liberals that we do, and that is the residents there will bend over backwards to be "tolerant," even after this.
Massachusetts Governor Sowed Seeds Of Islamic Terrorism In Boston Years Ago
Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/04/massachusetts-governor-sowed-seeds-of-islamic-terrorism-in-boston-years-ago/#ixzz2RCLZHVga
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That's right. For 22 hours, 4.6 million people over 4,600 square miles hid in their homes, because of one man.
Businesses and schools were closed. Transportation was stopped. Untold millions of dollars were lost in commerce.
Since a purpose of terrorism is to instill terror in a population, they certainly did 'win' when they set off the first bombs. They won again when your governor told you to hide in your homes. Your children learned that your response to threats will be to hide, and hope the government saves you from the bad people. You allowed yourself to be ruled by fear. In most of the United States, that is not considered a conservative philosophy.
And "Boston" did not end it on the city's terms. The first brother was killed, which was likely his intent, in Watertown (not Boston). He ended it on his terms. The younger brother was able to elude the manhunt, and was located by a Watertown citizen (not a Bostonian). He walked out and surrendered, as this photograph shows, so he also ended it on his terms.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/conscave/suspect-boat_zpsc82cb8a9.jpg)
Not much there to beat your chest about.
:banghead: would be more productive here.
People stayed home because they were asked to due to IEDs. Parts of Watertown was locked down because of the suspect was loose on foot and they wanted to contain him - which they did.
This wasn't about a bad guy with a gun. This happened after the shootout, and was over at 6 p.m. (when the guy was still on the loose). This was about sweeping for IEDs, and uh yeah - it was over on Boston's terms.
The very quickly identified him and brought them to the surface. They never thought they would be caught.
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I know better than to never say never. You are aware there have been terrorists attacks where the perps haven't been caught. If it can happen around the world, it can happen in the USA, too.
Walk me through it here.
Not immune, but less likely, sure I believe that. It just goes with the LW mindset that they want to be seen as tolerant and they go out of their way to be overly tolerant towards those they view as being especially subject to discrimination. Com'n, you've watched them act that way as much as the rest of us have. That attitude lends itself to terrorists being able to do things and residents being unwilling to suspect because it wouldn't be PC.
So where are the areas that are more likely to be so tolerant as to overlook suspicious behavior? I'd have to say the big cities along the Eastern seaboard (Philly, NYC, Boston primarily), and on the West coast probably LA, SF, and Seattle. There's your LW hotbeds right there. Akhmed the Arab is certainly going to get fewer funny looks about who he is and what he's up to in Seattle than he would in Dallas/Ft.Worth.
Look, this is a suspicion I have based upon how liberals behave. I'm not seeing other people jumping on the bandwagon telling me I'm wrong because I suspect most others here understand what I'm saying and agree to one degree or another. I mean, look at the left now. It's becoming more and more evident these two were influenced by radical Islam, and these libs are still trying to tie it to the RW, and the gun culture, and everything else but what it is. Now when it's staring them straight in the face and they're still denying it, why would I believe they're going to go to any new measures to be more observant of potential radical muslims living around them?
I think part of this is because it's Boston and you tend to defend Boston and Massachusetts. That's fine, you live there so you have a connection most of us here don't. But you also don't have the prespective we have as outsiders looking in, either. You're in a very liberal area, and they just don't change their spots.
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I already pointed out the reason why they would pick places like the Northeast - small area, east to completely get lost in the crowd. Except it isn't so much anymore due to surveillance cameras pretty much everywhere in large cities like Boston, and NYC.
I am from MA, and watched this unfold from the start to finish - I completely understood the danger, etc. There is much about MA and the government of the Commonwealth that I can point out in great detail that does not make me happy. The difference is though I can do so with pin point accuracy. Most here are just lobbing complaints without facts, and that just annoys the shit out of me - always has.
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What's unnerving is the ease with which Americans welcomed the city-wide lockdown, the routine invasion of their privacy, and the dismantling of every constitutional right intended to serve as a bulwark against government abuses.
It is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
~ Nazi Field Marshal Hermann Goering
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FL, the one mistake you basically made was the "no profiling" bit.
Sorry, but given the track record, profiling is EXACTLY what the police should be doing. Just sayin.
And right now, the Boston police chief looks like a dolt. As do Patrick and Menino.
Profiling needs to be done - agreed. On this guy, especially since the feds knew about him? absolutely. However, he has been in the country a very long time prior to this happening - unless the feds shared info with local police I don't see it mattering in this instance.
As far as the Boston police chief looking like a "dolt" -- :whatever:
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What's unnerving is the ease with which Americans welcomed the city-wide lockdown, the routine invasion of their privacy, and the dismantling of every constitutional right intended to serve as a bulwark against government abuses.
Let's place some bombs on the road on your commute to work and in your neighborhood and see how bad ass you are then. It's a comedy here now.
It was a shelter in place. <--- look that up.
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And yet you have idiots complaining that it took as long as it did. RESIDENTS were complaining.
Apparently they're not aware of the little fact that life is not an episode of CSI. Ask them how long it took to catch Rudolph, the Unabomber, etc.
Oh I am going to need a link to that.
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No, because there isn't shit out where we live. So it goes. Population centers are where the hajis are going to target, not some podunk town in NH, MO, or ID. But the fact the people in those places are far, far better armed than the sheeple of Boston, NYC, SF, etc., sure makes it a lot easier for them, wouldn't you say?
Yeah, it's the guns that scares them from NH.
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Yeah, it's the guns that scares them from NH.
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Okay. How many terrorist attacks have occured, say, in Dallas since, well, EVER?
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Okay. How many terrorist attacks have occured, say, in Dallas since, well, EVER?
I thought I already pointed that out. Look at the size of the state, and the diversity of the population in Dallas (Boston, NYC have colleges/universities and hospitals that people come to from all over the world). You could do what you need to do and be in Canada by nightfall from any spot in New England and NYC. From Dallas you are still in Texas.
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Profiling needs to be done - agreed. On this guy, especially since the feds knew about him? absolutely. However, he has been in the country a very long time prior to this happening - unless the feds shared info with local police I don't see it mattering in this instance.
As far as the Boston police chief looking like a "dolt" -- :whatever:
Afraid I can't find a link as it was on a FNC story I saw over the weekend. And yeah, the guy was an idiot for saying that.
As far as Commissioner Davis goes, well...maybe I'm being a LITTLE hard on him, but he did put out some seriously conflicting information.
And as for Deville and Mumbles? Hey, goes without saying.
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I thought I already pointed that out. Look at the size of the state, and the diversity of the population in Dallas (Boston, NYC have colleges/universities and hospitals that people come to from all over the world). You could do what you need to do and be in Canada by nightfall from any spot in New England and NYC. From Dallas you are still in Texas.
Dallas is also a pretty diverse city, FL. And contrary to popular (or at least non-Texan) opinion, there's a good number of excellent hospitals, universities, etc., that also draw people worldwide.
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Afraid I can't find a link as it was on a FNC story I saw over the weekend. And yeah, the guy was an idiot for saying that.
As far as Commissioner Davis goes, well...maybe I'm being a LITTLE hard on him, but he did put out some seriously conflicting information.
And as for Deville and Mumbles? Hey, goes without saying.
Menino being in Watertown for ANY reason was pathetic, and his praise of Boston and Boston cops was even more bizarre. Deval showed at news conferences for no other reason but to show his face. He gave no information, and basically repeated himself every single time. I have no respect for either man.
The Commissioner of the state police and Boston did the best they could - this all went down at a crazy level of pace.
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Dallas is also a pretty diverse city, FL. And contrary to popular (or at least non-Texan) opinion, there's a good number of excellent hospitals, universities, etc., that also draw people worldwide.
Nothing compared to the Northeast, and the logistics of getting in and out of New England are far easier than getting in and out of Texas.
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Honestly...these guys picking Boston probably had more to do with the fact that they lived in the area than anything else. I don't believe they "chose" Boston because it was a Liberal city.
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The terrorist attack on the Boston Marathon in many ways played out along predictable lines: The bombers were foreign-born Islamic militants with an affinity for jihad, our law-enforcement and emergency medical personnel responded with the awesome speed and skill that we too often take for granted, Bostonians behaved with prudence and restraint while the manhunt unfolded, the media performed in the opposite fashion, and, rather than turn into the “Islamophobic†lynch mob of the Left’s fevered fantasies, the American public took a few days to raise millions of dollars to help care for victims of the attack. Terrorists always hope to awaken the worst in us, and Americans reliably disappoint them. In that sense, the American people act in the spirit of Saint Francis: always preaching the blessings of liberty and prosperity, sometimes using words.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/346215/after-boston
The brothers won when they were able to place two bombs down at the Boston Marathon - 3 dead there and 200 seriously injured (most lost limbs). This is where the feds failed miserably, and that extends down to communist paradises such as Cambridge, where they made their home.
That is where it ends as after this attack this Commonwealth was united with a bond that can't be broken. That is what you saw from your homes on television. How can we help? stay home - you got it. What else can we do?
Anarchy would have brought lots of attention-whoring but very little good. It's over and life immediately turned to normal.
Preventing the next attack has to be a priority. I don't see that happening with this administration.
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Preventing the next attack has to be a priority. I don't see that happening with this administration.
Correct. All we get from this crowd is one cover-up after another. Just like the guy who was injured, the Saudi national. Congress has called for a classified hearing regarding his deportation. His visa was so he could attend school in OH, yet he had an apartment in Boston. He also attended the same Mosque as the bomb brothers.
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They won when the bombs went off at the marathon. They won when they made the bombs. They won when the FBI dropped the ball on the older brother and wrote him off as a non-threat.
WTF are you obsessing over a manhunt that lasted all of 22 hours for? Oh I know, because it's Boston. Got it. :whatever:
Obsessing over Bahston? :rotf:
What for? Just because I used to eat at Polcari's in the North End? (Probably before your time.)
No, they didn't win when the bombs went off at the marathon. Just like the Palestinians don't win over the Israelis when they start lobbing missiles and mortars out from Gaza City.
It's the reaction to the attack that spells whether or not they win.
Deval Patrick's reaction? Pure comedy gold! :lmao:
People of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts: Brace yourself. Since you guys like to shut yourselves down because of a couple of punks, you'll get more of the same.
And that's nothing to laugh over.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/346215/after-boston
The brothers won when they were able to place two bombs down at the Boston Marathon - 3 dead there and 200 seriously injured (most lost limbs). This is where the feds failed miserably, and that extends down to communist paradises such as Cambridge, where they made their home.
Wrong. The brothers didn't win when the bombs went off. The reaction to the attack is what spells bullshit versus success. Shutting a city down sends the message to future perps that in order for the muzzies to get their 15 minutes of fame and 72 virgins, carry a backpack with a pressure cooker filled with nails and other metallic objects and blow it up.
And then watch an entire major metropolitan city shut down. Empty streets. Crickets.
Pursuit of happiness? Not in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts! Not until we catch the bad guys, they say. Uh huh. Just another tamed-down version of tyranny.
That is where it ends as after this attack this Commonwealth was united with a bond that can't be broken. That is what you saw from your homes on television. How can we help? stay home - you got it. What else can we do?
I saw Kenmore Square that was completely devoid of traffic, pedestrians. A freaking ghost town.
To be fair, there were several people rendering aid just after the explosions. It was good to see that.
Anarchy would have brought lots of attention-whoring but very little good. It's over and life immediately turned to normal.
Who's advocating anarchy? Just to go on with life despite a couple of punks isn't "anarchy."
It's called, for lack of a better term, "pursuing happiness."
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Walk me through it here.
I'm not a terrorist. But do you really want to take the position that it's impossible for a terrorist to pull off an act of terrorism and get away with it? Totally and completely impossible? Really??
I can't describe what they would do, but to deny it's possible at all isn't reasonable.
I already pointed out the reason why they would pick places like the Northeast - small area, east to completely get lost in the crowd. Except it isn't so much anymore due to surveillance cameras pretty much everywhere in large cities like Boston, and NYC.
I am from MA, and watched this unfold from the start to finish - I completely understood the danger, etc. There is much about MA and the government of the Commonwealth that I can point out in great detail that does not make me happy. The difference is though I can do so with pin point accuracy. Most here are just lobbing complaints without facts, and that just annoys the shit out of me - always has.
Large liberal cities have gained a reputation for being overly PC, which in a day in age when we've got muslim crazies that would like to kill us, isn't the time to hang onto that view. It takes more than just cameras, it takes observant people who are willing to accept that certain profiles need to be watched more closely than others. Nothing that's happened this past week has changed my viewpoint that their PC will continue to blind them. I've said for a while that if I'm looking for a place where I can attack the USA and not raise suspicions, then SF would be #1 and Boston would be #2. It's not you, OK. I'm not addressing you. It's these whacked out lib PC nuts that have infected the area and refuse to live in the real world.
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It's coming...
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/321546_10151371957945773_1626397930_n.jpg)
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Massachusetts Governor Sowed Seeds Of Islamic Terrorism In Boston Years Ago
Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com...-years-ago/#ixzz2RCLZHVga
Thanks for the link. The video is also enlightening.
Liberals, you just have to wonder if they are doing such things because they are TOO STUPID, or because they are friends with the terrorists.
In any case liberals will destroy America if not stopped. :censored:
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When the lockdown was lifted, it was a man who found Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in his boat. I think if there was no lockdown, I think Tsarnaev would of been found sooner by a citizen.
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Thanks for the link. The video is also enlightening.
Liberals, you just have to wonder if they are doing such things because they are TOO STUPID, or because they are friends with the terrorists.
In any case liberals will destroy America if not stopped. :censored:
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I say both.
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When the lockdown was lifted, it was a man who found Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in his boat. I think if there was no lockdown, I think Tsarnaev would of been found sooner by a citizen.
Exactly!!! So much for lockdowns!
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When the lockdown was lifted, it was a man who found Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in his boat. I think if there was no lockdown, I think Tsarnaev would of been found sooner by a citizen.
Yes, that citizen may have stepped onto his back porch for the first cigarette of the day, and saved the people of the greater Boston metropolitan area millions of dollars.
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Yes, that citizen may have stepped onto his back porch for the first cigarette of the day, and saved the people of the greater Boston metropolitan area millions of dollars.
Then again, maybe he quit smoking 16 years ago and just wanted some fresh air and wasn't able to earlier due to the "lockdown."
Jesus. That word "lockdown" connotes what they do to prisoners inside prison when a shiv is used. Or what they do to junior high schools when some kid forgets and packs a penknife in his book bag. :whatever:
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Then again, maybe he quit smoking 16 years ago and just wanted some fresh air and wasn't able to earlier due to the "lockdown."
Jesus. That word "lockdown" connotes what they do to prisoners inside prison when a shiv is used. Or what they do to junior high schools when some kid forgets and packs a penknife in his book bag. :whatever:
Or has a PICTURE of a gun. :banghead:
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Then again, maybe he quit smoking 16 years ago and just wanted some fresh air and wasn't able to earlier due to the "lockdown."
Jesus. That word "lockdown" connotes what they do to prisoners inside prison when a shiv is used. Or what they do to junior high schools when some kid forgets and packs a penknife in his book bag. :whatever:
Heard on Rush's show (during the gun shop trip!) that the man's wife made him go outside to smoke after being locked in the house all day.
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Or has a PICTURE of a gun. :banghead:
Or the deadly assault Pop Tart.
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Heard on Rush's show (during the gun shop trip!) that the man's wife made him go outside to smoke after being locked in the house all day.
Well! There you have it. Had the lockdown not been in effect, this poor bastard would probably have gone outside to play with his dog and, since the shitstick wasn't quite bled out and still had a LOT more fight left in him, would've wound up with a bullet to the head when he pulled the canvas back on the boat.
THANK GOD FOR LOCKDOWNS!!!! ELEVENTY!!!111!
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Well! There you have it. Had the lockdown not been in effect, this poor bastard would probably have gone outside to play with his dog and, since the shitstick wasn't quite bled out and still had a LOT more fight left in him, would've wound up with a bullet to the head when he pulled the canvas back on the boat.
THANK GOD FOR LOCKDOWNS!!!! ELEVENTY!!!111!
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Lucky for the dog, too.
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Lucky for the dog, too.
Wonder if the dog can tree a Muslim?
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Well! There you have it. Had the lockdown not been in effect, this poor bastard would probably have gone outside to play with his dog and, since the shitstick wasn't quite bled out and still had a LOT more fight left in him, would've wound up with a bullet to the head when he pulled the canvas back on the boat.
THANK GOD FOR LOCKDOWNS!!!! ELEVENTY!!!111!
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They lifted the shelter in place when they were done a small perimeter sweep for the suspect and cleared the area for IEDs. He was still on the loose when they lifted it.
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I'm not a terrorist. But do you really want to take the position that it's impossible for a terrorist to pull off an act of terrorism and get away with it? Totally and completely impossible? Really??
I can't describe what they would do, but to deny it's possible at all isn't reasonable.
Well let me walk you through how it couldn't have happened then. The entire 26 mile route is swept for bombs prior to the race starting. After the sweep, the finish line is heavily guarded for most of the race when political dignitaries are present. The terrorist has a small window of opportunity to do anything, and they exposed exactly what that window is. That will be addressed next year as no one will be allowed to have a bag without it being searched.
Now here is the part where they will get caught regardless. All of the businesses in that area have surveillance cameras at the front of the business on the street. While it may take a while to find the party who dropped a bag, they will find them and we will see their picture. Sleeper cell? means they live here and people know and will identify them. Temporary visitor? doubtful, as it would be difficult for them to obtain the materials they need so quickly. Even then, there are surveillance cameras at airports/train stations/etc. They will pinpoint eventually how they came here and left.
Suicide bombers? Whole different story. They could do it, but they would die doing so and thus the whole "caught" thing is a non-point.
Large liberal cities have gained a reputation for being overly PC, which in a day in age when we've got muslim crazies that would like to kill us, isn't the time to hang onto that view. It takes more than just cameras, it takes observant people who are willing to accept that certain profiles need to be watched more closely than others. Nothing that's happened this past week has changed my viewpoint that their PC will continue to blind them. I've said for a while that if I'm looking for a place where I can attack the USA and not raise suspicions, then SF would be #1 and Boston would be #2. It's not you, OK. I'm not addressing you. It's these whacked out lib PC nuts that have infected the area and refuse to live in the real world.
Profiling needs to be done - agreed on that 100%, and I believe anyone/student coming here on an education visa needs to be held to a much higher standard and watched closely. That said - Boston houses hospitals that people come to from all over the world for treatment, and we have many visiting scientists here doing research (not to mention the large number of students here on visas - legitimate students). Boston is very diverse. Is that wrong? No, of course not. However, this country does give foreigners too many liberties at our detriment.
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They lifted the shelter in place when they were done a small perimeter sweep for the suspect and cleared the area for IEDs. He was still on the loose when they lifted it.
So are you saying they recognized the error of their ways? A mini-lockdown wasn't as bad as a maxi-lockdown? 22 hours spent staring at the walls created lots of stir-crazy people who were beginning to revolt? Lots of businesses lost lots of money during those 22 hours of government-created mini-lockdowns? Chaos and anarchy were beginning to rule?
Thank God for bloody footprints. And K9 units. The bloodhounds woulda got him, right? Especially with him leaking blood all over the place.
Oh, wait. That's the stereotype of the cops in the south. The perp sets off through the swamp, ducking all manner of gators and water moccasins and throws the dogs off his scent.
Are there any swamps in Watertown?
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Well let me walk you through how it couldn't have happened then....
Look, neither you nor anyone else will ever convince me it's impossible. To believe that would be to believe a lie.
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Look, neither you nor anyone else will ever convince me it's impossible. To believe that would be to believe a lie.
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You are sure it can be done, yet have no idea how. Ok.
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So are you saying they recognized the error of their ways? A mini-lockdown wasn't as bad as a maxi-lockdown? 22 hours spent staring at the walls created lots of stir-crazy people who were beginning to revolt? Lots of businesses lost lots of money during those 22 hours of government-created mini-lockdowns? Chaos and anarchy were beginning to rule?
Thank God for bloody footprints. And K9 units. The bloodhounds woulda got him, right? Especially with him leaking blood all over the place.
Oh, wait. That's the stereotype of the cops in the south. The perp sets off through the swamp, ducking all manner of gators and water moccasins and throws the dogs off his scent.
Are there any swamps in Watertown?
:lmao:
Why do you keep ignoring the IEDs?
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Why do you keep ignoring the IEDs?
You mean the 5 (count 'em folks) bombs made with low grade explosives that consisted of BBs and nails inside pressure cookers?
You mean THOSE IEDs?
There used to be a time when IEDs were certainly issues that demanded vigilance and care. And then the Iraqi insurgents upped the ante when they started building artillery shells as IEDs in order to penetrate the up-armored Humvees and other vehicles.
As a result, we now think that an IED is roughly equivalent to a 1.5 KT nuclear device and thus warrants usurping our 4th Amendment rights because one of 'em might be out there. :rotf:
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You mean the 5 (count 'em folks) bombs made with low grade explosives that consisted of BBs and nails inside pressure cookers?
You mean THOSE IEDs?
There used to be a time when IEDs were certainly issues that demanded vigilance and care. And then the Iraqi insurgents upped the ante when they started building artillery shells as IEDs in order to penetrate the up-armored Humvees and other vehicles.
As a result, we now think that an IED is roughly equivalent to a 1.5 KT nuclear device and thus warrants usurping our 4th Amendment rights because one of 'em might be out there. :rotf:
You mean they knew exactly how many were out there when they created the perimeter search. You mean they knew exactly what kind of bombs they were too?
Gosh I had no idea (and no idea what the final count was). Please rush your contact number to them so they have your expert counsel next time this happens!!
Yeah that is how ridiculous you sound.
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You mean they knew exactly how many were out there when they created the perimeter search. You mean they knew exactly what kind of bombs they were too?
Gosh I had no idea (and no idea what the final count was). Please rush your contact number to them so they have your expert counsel next time this happens!!
Yeah that is how ridiculous you sound.
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If nothing else, I'm a major irritant, right?
My mission is complete. :rotf:
Actually, TRG said something about pipe bombs. I nadined all that but got nothin' but crickets.
But more to the point, regardless what the cops knew/didn't know (damn, they really didn't know much, did they?), the overreaction was felt all the way to Flyover Country. :-)