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Title: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: dutch508 on October 02, 2017, 10:55:42 PM
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Star Member lastlib (9,997 posts) https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1172204683

Is this enough? 50+ dead, 200+ wounded.


Is this enough, or do you need more blood? before you give up your fantasy that these weapons have a place in our society

of course... right on ques...

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Throck (335 posts)
6. No

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack

The world has a number of sociopathic people, some of them get elected and have the ability to make these numbers look pale by comparison. If it's not politics, it's death by religion. The world has changed.

 :thatsright:

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Star Member krispos42 (47,746 posts)
9. Do we know enough to address anything?

Nope.

Seems like he had fully-automatic guns, which are functionally illegal in this country. We have an age, a race, and a sex. And that's about it.

Be kind of hard to discuss what's wrong when we only know three things. But, since an awful lot of people here think that "civilian ownership of guns is what's wrong", then really the only thing they feel like discussing when when outlawing and confiscation can begin.

logic never lasts long at the DUmp.

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Star Member SCantiGOP (5,897 posts)
10. Thoughts and Prayers don't mean shit

Do something. 30,000 gun deaths a year; England has about 50. Every politician from Trump on down have blood on their hands. The NRA is a domestic terrorist organization.

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Star Member SCantiGOP (5,897 posts)
12. How about a national gun policy

that matches the rest of the world and isn't dictated by a national organization that attacks sensible politicians on behalf of the gun and ammo industry.

Don't bother answering; I am trashing this forum so I don't have to ever read crap like this again on this site.

 :loser:
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: freedumb2003b on October 03, 2017, 06:23:02 AM
The 1st Amendment has killed thousands -- maybe hundreds of thousands.

I say we outlaw it and make me the arbiter of allowable speech.
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: 67 Rover on October 03, 2017, 07:01:36 AM
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Star Member SCantiGOP (5,897 posts)
12. How about a national gun policy

that matches the rest of the world and isn't dictated by a national organization that attacks sensible politicians on behalf of the gun and ammo industry.

Don't bother answering; I am trashing this forum so I don't have to ever read crap like this again on this site.

OK let's adopt the Swiss gun policy.
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 03, 2017, 07:14:35 AM
OK let's adopt the Swiss gun policy.

I'm all for that.
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: Skul on October 03, 2017, 07:37:22 AM
OK let's adopt the Swiss gun policy.

Oh hell ya!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 03, 2017, 07:39:49 AM
Gun control works so well in Chicago and Baltimore. :whatever:
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: Undies on October 03, 2017, 07:48:07 AM
If we are really serious about making the world a safer place, we would ban leftists and their anti-humanity ideology.  Whenever lefties are in charge, we eventually end up with a Chicago or a Puerto Rico.
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: Old n Grumpy on October 03, 2017, 07:53:39 AM
If we are really serious about making the world a safer place, we would ban leftists and their anti-humanity ideology.  Whenever lefties are in charge, we eventually end up with a Chicago or a Puerto Rico.

Exactly, It seems all the mass shooters are left wingers. And all the vile hate and bitterness that comes from the left just promotes this type of thing.
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: franksolich on October 03, 2017, 07:58:43 AM
If we are really serious about making the world a safer place, we would ban leftists and their anti-humanity ideology.  Whenever lefties are in charge, we eventually end up with a Chicago or a Puerto Rico.

^^^yeah, that.  :clap:
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: SVPete on October 03, 2017, 08:33:56 AM
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Star Member krispos42 (47,746 posts)
9. Do we know enough to address anything?

Nope.

Seems like he had fully-automatic guns, which are functionally illegal in this country. We have an age, a race, and a sex. And that's about it.

Be kind of hard to discuss what's wrong when we only know three things. But, since an awful lot of people here think that "civilian ownership of guns is what's wrong", then really the only thing they feel like discussing when when outlawing and confiscation can begin.

Alert him! ALERT him!

Yesterday AM before heading to work I saw headlines saying the shooter used an automatic weapon. Knowing the willful and hate-driven ignorance of the MSM, I was sure the report was ignorant nonsense. When I heard audio clips of the firing I changed my mind. Whatever the guns he used were,I'm sure I heard two, and the rate of fire was much higher than a semi-automatic. That means that, as the DU-member quoted said, the guy all but certainly possessed an illegal fire arm. And as the DU-member did not state explicitly, no pile of gun control laws would have significantly hindered him from his intended slaughter.
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: Old n Grumpy on October 03, 2017, 09:32:06 AM
It seems what he had were semi autos with bump fire stocks. they are legal. When you listen to the sounds you hear long bursts with a high cyclic rate, faster than a full auto. If he had functional full auto 's he could have controlled his fire taking aimed bursts. It appears he was just spraying into the crowd like shooting fish in a barrel. The bump fire devices give a high rate of fire, but no real control like with a select fire weapon.
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: SVPete on October 03, 2017, 10:03:45 AM
It seems what he had were semi autos with bump fire stocks. they are legal. When you listen to the sounds you hear long bursts with a high cyclic rate, faster than a full auto. If he had functional full auto 's he could have controlled his fire taking aimed bursts. It appears he was just spraying into the crowd like shooting fish in a barrel. The bump fire devices give a high rate of fire, but no real control like with a select fire weapon.

The info I've heard is that he had both bump-fire and automatic conversions among his 20 or so rifles.
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: thundley4 on October 03, 2017, 11:49:27 AM
There have been reports that ammonium nitrate was found in Paddock's car. Would the DUmmies have been happier if he had driven a truck or car bomb into the crowd? :rant:
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: Airwolf on October 03, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
Strange how the members of the left get so wound up over guns but not all that ginned up over 9/11 or Oaklahoma City or any terrorist attacks because we can;t point out that it was either a leftist or Muslim terrorist that caused it.
Title: Re: BAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on October 04, 2017, 04:04:03 AM
" The NRA is a domestic terrorist organization."
1. No, it isn't. Terrorism by its very definition involves the unlawful use of violence or threat of violence, especially against civilians, to accomplish ideological goals. The NRA simply promotes safe, responsible gun ownership and appeals to politicians to ensure that the basic rights of responsible gun owners are protected.
2. How much you want to bet this DUmmy believes that groups like Antifa and By Any Means Necessary, which DO use violence and the threat of violence against civilians to try and accomplish ideological goals, are NOT terrorist organizations?