bobbling primitive suffers deeply

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=230x2126

Oh my.

knitter4democracy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-12-08 12:01 PM
Original message

Everyone should volunteer at a homeless shelter at least once.
   
Homeless shelters are awful. They're only meant to be a stop-gap solution, not a permanent solution. Yet, more and more people are using them as their nightly housing, and more and more of us who aren't homeless just assume that the shelters are taking care of "the problem." They aren't.

In most cities, shelters are segregated. Men have one, and women have another. Yet, more and more of the homeless blahblahblahblahblah

It's a very large bonfire, so only a few primitive comments, selected at random:

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)  Tue Feb-12-08 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #7

12. A woman I know who was homeless tells me of her brother's friend with AIDS.
   
He finally bought a gun, but refused to buy ammunition.

He held up a 7-11, without bullets, so he'd get arrested and have a bed and meals.

Yes, it is happening.

Yet, whenver I post of the need for low-income housing, with numbers to call, it sinks like a rock!

I'm PISSED at the lack of concern right here on DU!

Thanks for posting this..... the story goes on...

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)  Tue Feb-12-08 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #14

16. Why is it stupid? Yanno, it becomes a total no-win situation!
   
What the hell is he supposed to do that would be "smart"?

Then, when all else fails and he kills himself, then he's either stupid or selfish or mentally ill.

What the hell is he supposed to do that is acceptable????

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)  Wed Feb-13-08 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #52

68. Thank you for drawing the distinction between drunks and the majority of homeless people now!
   
SOME on this thread can't seem to get that!

SOME are still back with RAYGUN and the ignorance of that era.

SOME can't understand how insulting and hurtful that is to those of us who are suffering deeply!

In case anyone's forgotten, the bobbling primitive's the one who DEMANDS free housing, and if it's anything less than Buckingham Palace with maid service, it's not good enough.

The sparkling husband primitive by the way owns some really nice restored brick rowhouses in Baltimore, and being a socially-conscious primitive, surely the sparkling husband primitive would be happy to give one of them to the bobbling primitive, if the bobbling primitive would just hitch-hike her way there from Denver.

Or if the bobbling primitive prefers the west coast, there's always Doug's ex-wife in her luxury condominium in San Francisco; surely Doug's ex-wife being a socially-conscious primitive, would put up the bobbling primitive and do her laundry.

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)  Tue Feb-12-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #10

19. Are you mentally ill??? I'm ****ing not, and I'm getting so *******ed tired of that shit!
   
Do you know that is one of the most hurtful things that homeless people go through, is this continual assumption, thanks to RAYGUN, that we're all mentally ill.

What the **** does it take to get it through to you?

Yes, I'm really pissed at your assumptions!

YOU walk in my shoes, take this shit for a couple of years, then tell me just how "healthy" YOU feel!

Get educated!

The number one cause of homelessness is the shitty health care system in this country.... YOU could be caught in that too, and it wouldn't make you any more mentally ill that I am, or anyone else who is homeless.

Get EDUCATED!

It goes on and on and on, including primitive indignation that some food banks some places require recipients to take a one-hour (or somesuch) "money management" class to continue receiving free food.

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)  Tue Feb-12-08 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #4

17. I'm 62 years old.... I don't need a damned dormitory, for gawd's sake!
   
I tried to post this before, and DU went down.

Could you please listen to yourself?

Where the hell would I keep my belongings safe, the rest of my life?

How the hell wooulld I sleep the rest of my life, with at least 10 other women snoring, coughing etc all night, and some working shifts?

How the hell would I stay healthy, with germs being passed around all night??? Do you KNOW that TB is 14 times greater in a shelter than in the population at large?

Do you have any concept of the idea of PRIVACY????

Do you have ANY IDEA just what you are consigning people to? I'd rather be DEAD!

YOU got live in a dormitory the rest of your life!

This is a large bonfire, but I had to leave after this:

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)  Wed Feb-13-08 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #54

66. Indeed! This comes from a talented writer, but not recognized on DU like Pitt, etc.

Essentially, many primitives condescend to the bobbling primitive, other primitives argue with the bobbling primitive.

[whiffleball]

Why doesn't the OP take in the bobbler?  She's posted in the past how her life is good and she's married to a successful physician. 

The bobbler is in such poor straits that she must go to a library to access the Internets.  The fact that she can get her butt out of bed and walk to the library should be looked on as a blessing, but the bobbler is convinced she 'deserves' a house, car, insurances and food from the gubmint.  But, damnation, she sure doesn't deserve to have to work for it. 

[DixieBelle]

60 something? Homeless since the 80's? Am I reading this right?

I would think that the bobbling primitive is really stupid. All of that time and he/she hasn't improved their situation? He/she found a way to post in the internet. I can only assume that implies at least a working knowledge of technology. There are so many entry-level jobs he/she could have taken.

Whenever I read posts like this, I think about that 25 year old kid who lived for a year with basically nothing and by the end, found a home, housing, a car and had $2500 in the bank. From nothing. He did it as an experiment to see if the "American Dream" was possible.

I think the DUmmie's first problem is hating America and all she has to offer if you work hard.

[Rebel]

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)  Tue Feb-12-08 03:07 PM
The number one cause of homelessness is the shitty health care system in this country.

Lying POS. 

The #1 cause for homelessness is people too Damn lazy to get off their f'n asses and get a job.

[apeanut99]

She turns down shelters when she has no home?  Is that what I am hearing?  What is the government supposed to do for her?  Give  her a house with a subprime loan that later gets forclosed on so they can regive her the same house?    She will have her house soon, I am sure.

[Flame]

She turns down shelters when she has no home?  Is that what I am hearing?  What is the government supposed to do for her?  Give  her a house with a subprime loan that later gets forclosed on so they can regive her the same house?    She will have her house soon, I am sure.

She was given housing at one point, but the apartments were just too bad, and the landlords wouldn't kiss her butt, so she moved into the streets.

[JohnnyReb]

My dumb old daddy used to say, "They're people in this world you just can't help." I think bobbolink is one of them.

[mamacags]

Professional victims suckling at the tit of the Stalinist dem party for their entire lives.

[apeanut99]

She was given housing at one point, but the apartments were just too bad, and the landlords wouldn't kiss her butt, so she moved into the streets.

ooooooooookay.  Ungrateful little shit.  did I say that out loud?

I am so tired of walking on eggshells on a local mommies board that saying that was kind of refreshing.

[lastparker]

Call me unique, but the thought of living like the bobbling one is what motivates me to get up and go to work every day.

[GOBUCKS]

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)  Wed Feb-13-08 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #52

68. Thank you for drawing the distinction between drunks and the majority of homeless people now!

DUmmy bobbolink has a point. The overwhelming majority of street bums, surely in the 95%-plus range, are drunks, drug abusers, or mentally ill. It is arguable whether the wino contingent exceeds 50%.


Here, DUmmy bobbolink, in her own playful way, is asking us to guess whether she is a wino, or a drug abuser:

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)  Tue Feb-12-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. Are you mentally ill??? I'm f**king not, and I'm getting so *******ed tired of that shit!

Where the hell would I keep my belongings safe, the rest of my life?

One would assume they would all stay in the stolen shopping cart. It's unlikely many people would be angling to swipe any of her treasures.

Do you have any concept of the idea of PRIVACY????

Maybe I'm  off base here, but this seems like a strange concern, coming from someone who will take a dump on the sidewalk.

surely Doug's ex-wife being a socially-conscious primitive, would put up the bobbling primitive and do her laundry.

This is very unlikely. Recall that DUmmy bobbolink was left out of the DU meetup in Denver during the democrat convention, for which she would probably have taken timeout from the IMAX to attend. The whole problem is a matter of...odor.

[apeanut99]

Where does the homeless person use the computer to post on DU? 

[franksolich]

Where does the homeless person use the computer to post on DU? 

She alleges she uses the public library.

But remember--DUmmies lie, all the time DUmmies lie.

[DumbAss Tanker]

To Hell with re-education, that leech just needs to go straight to a labor camp without even stopping over at a WalMart classification point on the way.

 

[apeanut99]

She alleges she uses the public library.

But remember--DUmmies lie, all the time DUmmies lie.

Do you suppose she is on the EEOC website applying for jobs between posts?  I am assuming that she is not only homeless but also jobless. 

[DumbAss Tanker]

Do you suppose she is on the EEOC website applying for jobs between posts?  I am assuming that she is not only homeless but also jobless. 

Based on my experience with EEOC, she'd fit right in with them, as would most of the DUmmies.  Did she used to work (and I use the term loosely) for them or something?

[jtyangel]

Bobbolink is nothing but excuses. Because of that, I do believe she has mental health issues because I don't think any answer will ever be a good enough answer for her. She's got a personality problem of one type or the other. I think like the underground kitty, it angers her when she's told that, yet she is reminded of the fact that people are right she is mentally ill when she sees what a failure her life is. She really would like for people to pay for her to forget she's got issues and even then, it still won't be enough.

[apeanut99]

Based on my experience with EEOC, she'd fit right in with them, as would most of the DUmmies.  Did she used to work (and I use the term loosely) for them or something?

OOPs...  I didnt mean EEOC, I mean the Employment Security office...  the one that ok's you for unemployment benefits.

[Ree]

Bobbolink is nothing but excuses. Because of that, I do believe she has mental health issues because I don't think any answer will ever be a good enough answer for her. She's got a personality problem of one type or the other. I think like the underground kitty, it angers her when she's told that, yet she is reminded of the fact that people are right she is mentally ill when she sees what a failure her life is. She really would like for people to pay for her to forget she's got issues and even then, it still won't be enough.

The hardest part is realizing ya have a mental problem(trust me

[Texacon]

The problem with bobbolink is that it wants everything and it wants it for free.  No matter what you gave it, it wouldn't be good enough for bobbolink.  bobbolink is simply lazy and has figured out a way to game the system.  Now it is trying to get the rest of the bleeding hearts to do its job.

KC

[USA4ME]

izquierdista

And about the authoritarian answer, I take a lesson from the former USSR. Yes, they were authoritarian, no doubt, but they also had no homeless problem. If the militsia saw people who looked homeless, they would take them in, have the social worker find out their story, and ASSIGN them to some living quarters. Yes, that runs counter to the freedom that Americans enjoy, the freedom to freeze to death, alone on a cold winter night.

 knitter4democracy

Have you been to Russia and talked with people there?
 
I have. They're not so fond of those years, even now.

I worked in an orphanage once in Moscow. The children were half the size they should've been for their age with dead, dark eyes. The state workers didn't hold them or cuddle them enough, and they didn't thrive. Saddest thing I've ever seen. I found out later that the state takes children away if you're poor or if you have a chronic health condition or if someone reports you for anything. This in a country that supposedly honors children and builds monuments to them. I'll never forget that hellhole, and I still get nightmares of the children reaching out to me, begging me to take them home with me.

You might want to find how they treated those homeless first before holding them up as an example.

Yet in an America the way the libs would desire it to be economically, what is described as having happened in the USSR is exactly what would eventually happen here.  Another part of the "Socialism/communism is a great economy, it's just that is hasn't been done right" mantra we hear from them.  Funny how there's not a single example in the history of the planet of how it's ever been done the right way from them, because over time it all finally falls apart, just like it would if it happened here under the direction of America's socialists/communists.

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[Chris_]

Call me unique, but the thought of living like the bobbling one is what motivates me to get up and go to work every day.

Actually, the thought of living along side the bobbling one is what motivates me to get up and go to work every day.

[Chris_]

The hardest part is realizing ya have a mental problem(trust me

You're not paranoid if they really are out to get you....

[franksolich]

Hot Damn.

A primitive who admits to seeing the same things franksolich saw, first-hand and up-close.

knitter4democracy

Have you been to Russia and talked with people there?
 
I have. They're not so fond of those years, even now.

I worked in an orphanage once in Moscow. The children were half the size they should've been for their age with dead, dark eyes. The state workers didn't hold them or cuddle them enough, and they didn't thrive. Saddest thing I've ever seen. I found out later that the state takes children away if you're poor or if you have a chronic health condition or if someone reports you for anything. This in a country that supposedly honors children and builds monuments to them. I'll never forget that hellhole, and I still get nightmares of the children reaching out to me, begging me to take them home with me.

You might want to find how they treated those homeless first before holding them up as an example.

On edit: Except she should've talked about how they wallow in shit and get all sorts of sores and infections.....and that many of them weren't taken away by the state, but dumped there by people who don't give a damn about other people, even those they themselves created.

[franksolich]

By the way, in case anyone's forgotten--it's been a couple of years now, but the bobbling primitive once admitted to some sort of serious mental problem (not specified), that resulted in the state taking away her children.