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Current Events => Terrorism In the US and Around the World => Topic started by: thundley4 on November 18, 2009, 06:30:54 AM

Title: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: thundley4 on November 18, 2009, 06:30:54 AM
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Americans who are troubled by the decision to send alleged Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to New York for trial will feel better about it when he’s put to death, President Barack Obama said Tuesday.

During a round of network television interviews conducted during Obama’s visit to China, the president was asked about those who find it offensive that Mohammed will receive all the rights normally accorded to U.S. citizens when they are charged with a crime.

“I don't think it will be offensive at all when he's convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him,” Obama told NBC’s Chuck Todd.

When Todd asked Obama if he was interfering in the trial process by declaring that Mohammed will be executed, Obama, a former constitutional law professor, insisted that he wasn’t trying to dictate the result.

“What I said was, people will not be offended if that's the outcome. I'm not pre-judging, I'm not going to be in that courtroom, that's the job of prosecutors, the judge and the jury,” Obama said. “What I'm absolutely clear about is that I have complete confidence in the American people and our legal traditions and the prosecutors, the tough prosecutors from New York who specialize in terrorism.”
Politico (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29661.html)

Way to give the defense some help there Lord Zero.  Talk about tainting the jury pool.  :censored: moron.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: TheSarge on November 18, 2009, 07:04:43 AM
Politico (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29661.html)

Way to give the defense some help there Lord Zero.  Talk about tainting the jury pool.  :censored: moron.

Yeah if KSM has even a half way literate defense attorney...he's got grounds for dismissal or a change of venue right there.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: NHSparky on November 18, 2009, 10:27:26 AM
But...but...but...Obama was a LAW PROFESSOR!!!  Surely he wouldn't make that kind of mistake!!! (/du mode)

Oh, and DUmmies--he was an ADJUNCT law professor, which means he was pretty much an unpaid gopher get-my-coffee-do-my-other-shitty-jobs type of guy.

You know, a flunky.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: thundley4 on November 18, 2009, 10:38:11 AM
But...but...but...Obama was a LAW PROFESSOR!!!  Surely he wouldn't make that kind of mistake!!! (/du mode)

Oh, and DUmmies--he was an ADJUNCT law professor, which means he was pretty much an unpaid gopher get-my-coffee-do-my-other-shitty-jobs type of guy.

You know, a flunky.

Pretty much the same role he is playing for George Soros?
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: DefiantSix on November 18, 2009, 01:18:59 PM
Yeah if KSM has even a half way literate defense attorney...he's got grounds for dismissal or a change of venue right there.

What the hell kind of "venue" change could be granted here?  The Islamofascist in Chief is Islamofascist in Chief for the whole damned country, therefore every court in US territory has just been tainted.

Maybe we could mass ship the terrorist scumbags to The Hague?
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: Thor on November 18, 2009, 01:32:23 PM
I had heard some discussion on TV and what he and Holder are doing is against protocol and allegedly against the law. They all SHOULD be tried by a Military Tribunal. Period.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: DefiantSix on November 18, 2009, 01:40:55 PM
I had heard some discussion on TV and what he and Holder are doing is against protocol and allegedly against the law. They all SHOULD be tried by a Military Tribunal. Period.

Rush brought up the excelent point today that even assuming Holder is able to pull the rabbit out of his hat and win so much as ONE conviction on any of these O2 thieves, the consequences for the rest of us in the civilian court system will be devastating.  All of a sudden there is a precedent on the books for the government not needing to 'Mirandize' suspects, for allowing into evidence confessions obtained by extraordinary interrogation techniques, for the government to not need to show Habeas Corpus, and the list goes on and on.  Once those are on record, they don't go away, ever.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: TheSarge on November 18, 2009, 02:42:39 PM
What the hell kind of "venue" change could be granted here?  The Islamofascist in Chief is Islamofascist in Chief for the whole damned country, therefore every court in US territory has just been tainted.

Maybe we could mass ship the terrorist scumbags to The Hague?

That is exactly werhe I was going to guess that a defense attorney for these scum would suggest it be moved to...the ICC...where they would be all but guarenteed to walk.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 18, 2009, 05:15:31 PM
That's quite a rash thing to say, both legally and politically.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: Airwolf on November 18, 2009, 09:41:42 PM
Rush brought up the excelent point today that even assuming Holder is able to pull the rabbit out of his hat and win so much as ONE conviction on any of these O2 thieves, the consequences for the rest of us in the civilian court system will be devastating.  All of a sudden there is a precedent on the books for the government not needing to 'Mirandize' suspects, for allowing into evidence confessions obtained by extraordinary interrogation techniques, for the government to not need to show Habeas Corpus, and the list goes on and on.  Once those are on record, they don't go away, ever.

Looks like the GOV. wants to see how many ways they can throw conservatives in jail to me ,But I'm just crazy like that.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 19, 2009, 11:53:28 AM
Why bother trying him if verdict and sentence are already determined?

Gawd forbid Aunt Janet ever attempt to try one of her so-called RW Extremists under the precedents these idiots are setting.

This should have remained a strictly military matter.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 19, 2009, 02:17:56 PM
I say dump KSM into the Mariana Trench in a shipping crate.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: Randy on November 20, 2009, 04:30:55 PM
I say dump KSM into the Mariana Trench in a shipping crate.

Don't forget the side of bacon.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: debk on November 20, 2009, 04:45:33 PM
Serious question....

Since Obama made those comments...along with several others regarding a guaranteed conviction.....

IF....I mean WHEN.....KSM goes free because the defense gets it thrown out of court.....

Could Obama be impeached because HIS actions (words) allowed a confessed mass murderer to go free?
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 20, 2009, 04:55:31 PM
Serious question....

Since Obama made those comments...along with several others regarding a guaranteed conviction.....

IF....I mean WHEN.....KSM goes free because the defense gets it thrown out of court.....

Could Obama be impeached because HIS actions (words) allowed a confessed mass murderer to go free?
Impeached? Probably not but politically he'd be poisonous, radioactive porcupine to every other democrat so he'd essentially be a lame duck sitting out the rest of his term. Kiucinich and Olbermann might return his calls but he'd be dead in the water.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 20, 2009, 09:29:09 PM
Don't forget the side of bacon.

And some pork loin. I forgot. :doh:
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: DefiantSix on November 20, 2009, 10:23:34 PM
And some pork loin. I forgot. :doh:

Dress 'im up in a nice pair of Buster Brown Shoes.  Do they still make those out of pork hides?  (Do they even still make them?)
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: Rebel on November 20, 2009, 10:38:42 PM
Yeah if KSM has even a half way literate defense attorney...he's got grounds for dismissal or a change of venue right there.

Exactly. Obama is a f'n idiot and Holder is even more of a dumbass. That's what happens when you give the sumbitch the protections of the US Constitution, you f'n idiots.

We're in a world of hurt, Tx. Thank GOD I live in a small conservative area. Those major liberal areas are going to be attacked again. At least one.
Title: Re: 9/11 News Footage
Post by: Rebel on November 20, 2009, 10:45:13 PM
Clearly people who shouldn't be waterboarded for info at Guantanamo and people who should be given the protection of our Constitution.



 :censored:


DamnIT! We have TRAITORS running this ****ing country.


Do you hear me Obama? Anyone from the FBI reading? THAT SUMBITCH IS A TRAITOR and I don't give a **** WHAT happens to that ****in' traitor. Sign my ****ing name to it. CIA, take care of ****ing business. This country needs protecting and this ****ing usurper is working AGAINST America's interests. Obama is NOT the United States. WE THE PEOPLE are!  :censored:


Something does, I will cheer with my vocal chords on steroids.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 21, 2009, 06:55:52 AM
Don't remember exactly what I read but the AG Eric Hokder went to Detroit wed or thurs to reassure the Muslim community (?) whatever the hell that was for I don't know.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: thundley4 on November 21, 2009, 04:16:40 PM
Don't remember exactly what I read but the AG Eric Hokder went to Detroit wed or thurs to reassure the Muslim community (?) whatever the hell that was for I don't know.

He wanted to reassure them that if they attack Americans while yelling Allah Ackbar, that it won't be a hate crime, and will be considered self defense.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: TheSarge on November 22, 2009, 09:45:28 AM
Exactly. Obama is a f'n idiot and Holder is even more of a dumbass. That's what happens when you give the sumbitch the protections of the US Constitution, you f'n idiots.

We're in a world of hurt, Tx. Thank GOD I live in a small conservative area. Those major liberal areas are going to be attacked again. At least one.

The Cops I've talked to around here Kev say they look at it not as as if but when we get attacked again in their planning and protection of the D.C. area.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: Freeper on November 23, 2009, 05:54:07 PM
If I hadn't of heard lord O saying this myself, I would have thought someone made this up.
Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: debk on November 23, 2009, 09:24:09 PM
The Cops I've talked to around here Kev say they look at it not as as if but when we get attacked again in their planning and protection of the D.C. area.


Don't you think that most logical thinking people look at it as when....?

I was talking to my accountant this morning....and he just went off on this whole situation.

Suggested he come here and look around...like minded people and all that....

Title: Re: Obama on terror trials: KSM will die
Post by: Hawkgirl on November 24, 2009, 03:35:59 PM
Thank GOD I live in a small conservative area. Those major liberal areas are going to be attacked again. At least one.

Notice how the liberal cesspools are the targets of these terrorists?  When will they get a clue? (rhetorical)
This is equivalent to a murder victim defending the rights of serial murderers....quite self-defeating if you ask me.