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Decision ‘08 has been made
« on: November 05, 2008, 05:11:09 PM »
Electoral Votes: Barack Obama: 338, John McCain: 162 as of this AM, there are still conflicting numbers, but rest assured, Obama cleaned McCains clock.

History has surely been made with this election, I hope it’s not the final chapter for America, now, how do I say this and NOT offend a few friends in the process??

I don’t know if there is any way to NOT offend actually, I have NEVER been a PC person and I am damn sure not about to start now, politics needs hard truth, not PCness.

It’s over. McCain has lost, by a VERY wide margin, and as I said on numerous occasions, I was fully expecting this. He carried Texas and a good portion of the South, but he couldn’t even begin to win in the states that have the majority of electoral votes, liberal voters and disenfranchised moderates and Repubs.

My vote for Bob Barr was MY vote, it wasn’t a wasted vote, NO vote for a candidate that’s ON the ballot is a wasted vote. Let’s face it, all the votes cast for 3rd party candidates, all of them put together wouldn’t have made one bit of difference in this election, Obama, and his Obamanation have taken this one by storm.

I did NOT support McCain, I never liked him, I never trusted him, I never wanted him to be the POTUS and for the very brief period of time that I had a logo up on this blog for him it was because I was bowing to peer pressure, and that is something I just don’t do. I am my own man, regardless of the consequences, and I voted MY conscience, that old BULLSHIT about a vote for anyone other than McCain was just that, pure, 100% BULLSHIT, the numbers don’t lie.

For the last 2 years I have tried to tell everyone that would listen to me, McCain was NOT the one to take on and beat Obama, and I was correct. At this point in time, I actually don’t believe there was a Republican in the race, right from the start, that could have beat Obama anyway, and like it or not, you have no one to thank for that other than George W. Bush.

Many on the left fell for the *CHANGE* mantra, and it was surely a mantra, many just didn’t like McCain and saw him as a continuation of the Bush presidency, many just hate Bush and Company so much that they would have voted for Satan himself to keep a Republican out of the Oval Office.

We, the Conservatives of this nation, have a HUGE task ahead of us, we have Senate races to win back, we have Congress to win back, and that’s the mid-term fight we have to focus on at this particular time. I personally believe that after 2 years of a Democratic controlled Congress, there will be a serious swing in control of the House, and I don’t care if it’s Republican or not, as long as it’s CONSERVATIVE.

It appears that Texas will retain John Cornyn (R)(Socialist) as the junior Senator from Texas until Kay Bailey Hutchison (R)(Socialist) steps down to come home and run for Governor in 2 years, I am hoping she has to resign her Senate seat to do so, she IS talking retirement as well, and if so, we’ll be working very hard here in Texas to KEEP her socialist, wetback loving ass retired.

It also appears that my favorite Congressman, Mr. Sam Johnson, Texas 3rd, is going to hold his seat, that is GREAT news, Mr. Sam didn’t vote FOR the Wall Street bailout as many others did, including both of our U.S. Senators from Texas.

I did get one very shocking surprise on election night, the race for Dallas County Sheriff. The incumbent, Lupe Valdez, a Hispanic, a VERY Liberal Dem, an avowed lesbian and without question the worst Sheriff that Dallas County has had in any recent times, was re-elected by predominantly Democratic Dallas County. By a very big margin too, by Dems, Libbers and Hispanics. Oh well, you get what you elect, morale is already very low on the Dallas County Sheriffs Office, I am guessing that it just went a lot lower.

To all of my readers I say this, the Dems have carried the day, the Republicans never had a chance as a party, and that is because there was a tremendous amount of defection from the ranks, but lets face facts, the Republican party is only a shadow of what it once was, in the Reagan days for instance. Mainstream Republicans are, basically, nothing more than Dem Lite today.

The future of this nation is NOT in the hands of Dems OR Repubs, it rests on the shoulders of the CONSERVATIVES of this nation, and if this nation is to continue to survive, WE, the CONSERVATIVES, must regain control of the House of Representatives before there is nothing left worth saving.

The battle for 2010 begins today, the battle for 2012 begins today as well, and it begins right here and right now. I am an Independent Conservative, I hope that many of you will take up that same mantle, and wear that name proudly. It’s time for a viable 3rd party candidacy in America, one that can offer a real challenge to our antiquated 2 party system, a 3rd party candidacy that can WIN! And it can happen, but it won’t happen with dissent and negative thinking, we either stand together or we ALL go down together.

It’s YOUR choice…

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 05:32:57 PM »
I appreciate your vision, but I think the place we need to start is with the Republican party, and work to elect people who are actually REAL Conservatives, or even Conservative Libertarians. Small government folks. Americans First folks. Folks who are not afraid to salute the flag, and who aren't embarrassed by the mighty force the last superpower possesses.

No more 'Compassionate Conservatism' - All that got us is lots of illegal residents, and great big Government.
No more *****footing around our enemies. - If they want a piece of us, we go in to win. Period.
No more Foreign Oil - most of those countries hate us, so lets bankrupt their governments, and put Americans to work.

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 05:54:00 PM »
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My vote for Bob Barr was MY vote

Stop reading after this.

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 06:37:27 PM »
Stop reading after this.

Next.
Everyone has an opinion, that one is yours... Ya missed the really good stuff...  :tongue:

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 06:41:16 PM »
I appreciate your vision, but I think the place we need to start is with the Republican party, and work to elect people who are actually REAL Conservatives, or even Conservative Libertarians. Small government folks. Americans First folks. Folks who are not afraid to salute the flag, and who aren't embarrassed by the mighty force the last superpower possesses.

No more 'Compassionate Conservatism' - All that got us is lots of illegal residents, and great big Government.
No more *****footing around our enemies. - If they want a piece of us, we go in to win. Period.
No more Foreign Oil - most of those countries hate us, so lets bankrupt their governments, and put Americans to work.

Couldn't agree more... The Repubs aren't Repubs anymore, they are Dem Lite... The Dems are Marxist or Commies or Socialists, depends on who ya ask, but CONSERVATISM is the only thing that will save this nation, and if the Repubs won't do it, and by offering up John McCain they showed the world that they have NO idea of what conservative even means, then it's up to conservatives that are Independents or little*L* libertarians to get it done...

We have got to get some SANE people into the races...

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 06:44:51 PM »
I appreciate your vision, but I think the place we need to start is with the Republican party, and work to elect people who are actually REAL Conservatives, or even Conservative Libertarians. Small government folks. Americans First folks. Folks who are not afraid to salute the flag, and who aren't embarrassed by the mighty force the last superpower possesses.

No more 'Compassionate Conservatism' - All that got us is lots of illegal residents, and great big Government.
No more *****footing around our enemies. - If they want a piece of us, we go in to win. Period.
No more Foreign Oil - most of those countries hate us, so lets bankrupt their governments, and put Americans to work.


Time to go back to basics:  No more pretending, no more compromising our principles.  NO MORE NEOCONSERVATISM!!

* SMALL GOVERNMENT!
* LOW TAXES!
* FREE MARKETS!
* WORK ETHICS!
* NO ILLEGAL ALIENS!
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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 07:00:36 PM »
Time to go back to basics:  No more pretending, no more compromising our principles.  NO MORE NEOCONSERVATISM!!

* SMALL GOVERNMENT!
* LOW TAXES!
* FREE MARKETS!
* WORK ETHICS!
* NO ILLEGAL ALIENS!

I like it.
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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 07:03:01 PM »
Couldn't agree more... The Repubs aren't Repubs anymore, they are Dem Lite... The Dems are Marxist or Commies or Socialists, depends on who ya ask, but CONSERVATISM is the only thing that will save this nation, and if the Repubs won't do it, and by offering up John McCain they showed the world that they have NO idea of what conservative even means, then it's up to conservatives that are Independents or little*L* libertarians to get it done...

We have got to get some SANE people into the races...


You're right on your first statement. I think that's why Palin brought a lot to McCain's candidacy.  We need to force the GOP back to their roots. People like Duncan Hunter need to be brought forth.
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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 07:09:03 PM »
You're right on your first statement. I think that's why Palin brought a lot to McCain's candidacy.  We need to force the GOP back to their roots. People like Duncan Hunter need to be brought forth.
Hunter, Palin, Bobby Jindal, yeah, you bet... REAL Conservatives, not RINOs...

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 07:10:17 PM »
Hunter, Palin, Bobby Jindal, yeah, you bet... REAL Conservatives, not RINOs...

Steele/Palin '12!
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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 07:12:16 PM »
Steele/Palin '12!
One of my readers said that SAME thing 2 days ago... I know nothing about Steele, might better look into that huh??

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 07:15:43 PM »
One of my readers said that SAME thing 2 days ago... I know nothing about Steele, might better look into that huh??

Steele is a staunch capitalist conservative who's LOATHED by the left. He's the one those idiots threw Oreo cookies at. He's the former Lt. Governor from Maryland.

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 07:31:03 PM »
A staunch capitalist conservative who's LOATHED by the left?? What's NOT to love??  :-)

If he can actually wage a fight, he might be able to get it done... I am just not happy with this reach around, uh, reach across the aisle BS that seems to be so poplar, I take sides, and I choose conservatism, not half and half libber can't make up their mind BS, and I want a REAL fire breathing Conservative in the White House...

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 07:33:28 PM »
A staunch capitalist conservative who's LOATHED by the left?? What's NOT to love??  :-)

If he can actually wage a fight, he might be able to get it done... I am just not happy with this reach around, uh, reach across the aisle BS that seems to be so poplar, I take sides, and I choose conservatism, not half and half libber can't make up their mind BS, and I want a REAL fire breathing Conservative in the White House...

Fred, they hate him so much they not only threw Oreos at him, they illegally obtained his credit report and posted it on the internet. Liberals cannot STAND conservative blacks, women, Hispanics, gays, or anyone who's supposed to be part of their special interest groups.
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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 07:39:45 PM »
Fred, they hate him so much they not only threw Oreos at him, they illegally obtained his credit report and posted it on the internet. Liberals cannot STAND conservative blacks, women, Hispanics, gays, or anyone who's supposed to be part of their special interest groups.
I believe I am going to do some serious research on the guy and do a post about him on the blog, I had 1 reader mention him and it was one of my very well read folks, that, and now this tells me I need to get on the ball and take a look at this guy, I was quite serious in my original post when I said, the race for 2012 starts NOW!!

I am sorry that one member stopped reading when she saw Bob Barr's name, I thought that was a tactic from the *other* side... Ya know, if you don't listen (read) ya can't learn anything... And tonight I think I have learned something...

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2008, 07:41:29 PM »
Couldn't agree more... The Repubs aren't Repubs anymore, they are Dem Lite... The Dems are Marxist or Commies or Socialists, depends on who ya ask, but CONSERVATISM is the only thing that will save this nation, and if the Repubs won't do it, and by offering up John McCain they showed the world that they have NO idea of what conservative even means, then it's up to conservatives that are Independents or little*L* libertarians to get it done...

We have got to get some SANE people into the races...


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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2008, 07:41:47 PM »
Steele/Palin '12!

I think it should be Palin/ Steele, TYVM.....

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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2008, 07:41:55 PM »
Michael Steele is on Fox News all the time. He's quite impressive.
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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2008, 07:41:58 PM »
I like it.

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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2008, 07:42:32 PM »
I think it should be Palin/ Steele, TYVM.....

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Either or.
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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2008, 07:50:29 PM »
Well, just a quick Google and I already like what I see...

Now I know I'm new HERE but I am NOT new to politics, Palin is HOT, smokin' hot, but I am NOT convinced that she is presidential material, but neither is the one that's there, the one going there or his backup...

So, maybe she is MORE qualified than Bush, McCain, Obama AND Biden, but she is in serious need of some voice coaching, some Government and Civics classes and some world study, after that, you betcha, she and 1st Dude might be just the ticket, but IMO, as is, she is NOT ready...

Now, here's the other way of looking at it too, Steele isn't ready either, no one is going in, if you haven't been POTUS, there is NO WAY to be totally ready, you have to get your feet wet, it's just the massive consequences that you have to carefully weigh out, and with 2 or 3 more years of *seasoning*, Palin could well be the best thing to EVER happen, she IS Conservative, and did I mention?? She IS HOT!!

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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2008, 07:55:47 PM »
She is hot, and I always thought that, but when I saw her in jeans? Let's just say my male hormones started getting worked up.  :naughty:
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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2008, 07:59:01 PM »
Well, just a quick Google and I already like what I see...

Now I know I'm new HERE but I am NOT new to politics, Palin is HOT, smokin' hot, but I am NOT convinced that she is presidential material, but neither is the one that's there, the one going there or his backup...

So, maybe she is MORE qualified than Bush, McCain, Obama AND Biden, but she is in serious need of some voice coaching, some Government and Civics classes and some world study, after that, you betcha, she and 1st Dude might be just the ticket, but IMO, as is, she is NOT ready...

Now, here's the other way of looking at it too, Steele isn't ready either, no one is going in, if you haven't been POTUS, there is NO WAY to be totally ready, you have to get your feet wet, it's just the massive consequences that you have to carefully weigh out, and with 2 or 3 more years of *seasoning*, Palin could well be the best thing to EVER happen, she IS Conservative, and did I mention?? She IS HOT!!


Is ANYBODY ever actually ready to fill that office ?!?!?!? Palin has way more experience than our "historic mulatto". That just goes to show me that either the Libtards are just ****ing stupid and have double standards. Bush wasn't "ready", Clinton wasn't "ready", and hell, even Reagan wasn't "ready".


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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2008, 10:09:40 PM »
This is an interesting election map

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/election/uscounties.html

Give it time to load.

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Re: Decision ‘08 has been made
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2008, 10:21:44 PM »
The county map:


The margin of victory map:


That 3D map is a pain in the ass to read.
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