Gay Abortion: This is what it's like when worlds collide

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

cecilfirefox (710 posts)

Abortions motivated by a fetus's perceived homosexuality.

 I found it interesting that many DU posters seemed okay with the idea that it shouldn't be the business of the government if a woman or family chooses to have an abortion because of the fetus's gender.
 
So, I want to propose a different hypothetical- what if the fetus's was perceived to be, or thought to be proven, to be gay?

Llewlladdwr (1,468 posts)

5. Why is sexual orientation any different than gender?

I'm not sure why you feel certain groups should get a veto on a woman's right to choose.

Why does a woman get a right to veto a man's right to choose?

cecilfirefox (710 posts)

15. Because it's a deliberate attempt to stamp out a people, a specific group, and it's likely grounded

in prejudice. I just am flabbergasted that folks don't have an issue with this!

morningfog (3,243 posts)

33. It is twisted logic. They apparently think that if a "gay gene" were discovered,

women would get tested for it and then abort as a routine practice.

cecilfirefox (710 posts)

41. Do you actually think the evangelical's in the van with kids wouldn't do it?? I'm saying it would be

widespread- but we are actually in some aspects creeping closer to potentially being able to produce something.

I would think an xtian's love of life would still forbid them from seeking an abortion.

Irreligious inner city blacks, however, seem to have a profound dislike of homosexuality.

But that's your constituency so...

morningfog (3,243 posts)

48. How would you even know why someone is seeking an abortion?

How would you be the arbiter of what abortions are sanctioned? It is pro-choice, or it is not.
 
I don't think it would be widespread. I don't think the evangelical's in the van would do it.

Yeah! How would you even know?

It's not like you have to register an abortion like you do those life-taking murder tools called guns.

Warpy (66,426 posts)

69. It's not going to be widespread and it's also not going to work.

You have to trust women and their doctors to make the appropriate health care decisions.
 
Not your body. Not your risk. Not your decision.

TRANSLATION: In me we trust.

MADem (81,467 posts)

2. Abortion is between a woman and her doctor. It's Not Our Business. Even if her "reasons" are

lousy ones...or there's no "reason" at all.

Not.

Our.

Business.

Then.

Stop.

Demanding.

Child support.

cecilfirefox (710 posts)

3. Wow. O_O

MADem (81,467 posts)

6. Try reading the Roe v. Wade decision, sometime, there, sparky. nt

Try reading Heller or McDonald v Chicago.

cecilfirefox (710 posts)

21. * Eye roll. *

MADem (81,467 posts)

38. You got that right.

I think most of us here have your number, too.

RudynJack (167 posts)

18. Why a "wow"?

Women currently have abortions for good reasons, bad reasons, perhaps no reason. We don't get involved.
 
It's a woman's decision. Starting down the road of guessing her motives will lead to a morass.

If a fetus has no intrinsic value than "bad reasons" don't exist.

MADem (81,467 posts)

35. Don't you presume the worst? Why ever would you do such a thing?

There are plenty of people in this world, believe it or not, who don't regard "gay" as a negative.
 
You should get out more, maybe you'll meet some of them.

Apparently, the clamour over "gay rights" is significantly overblown.

Warren Stupidity (30,056 posts)

119. Your op is troll flame bait. You are not having an honest discussion

Your hypothetical is absurd. It is just nonsense.

TRANSLATION: I'll tell you when you're allowed to think something is important.

RudynJack (167 posts)

42. I am gay

I would hope society would discourage such abortions, but I'd adamantly oppose any laws or regulations that infringe on a woman's right to choose. We already have enough people trying to do just that, and it infuriates me.

Would you oppose lws or regulations that infringe on your explicit right ot defend yourself from violent homophobes?

If not then you should have been aborted...not for being gay but for being terminally stupid and dangerous to those around you.

Aerows (12,535 posts)

74. I'm gay

And it isn't any of my damn business if a woman gets an abortion any more than it is my business who someone else sleeps with as long as it is consensual. Tending to other people's business causes more problems than anything else.

If you were aborted for being gay you wouldn't be here to say that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022165646

And on it goes.

Most default to "It's not my choice" but many more refuse to even confront the issue.




ETA -- In all seriousness: how long until we see an avowed lesbian have herself impregnated for the express purpose of having an abortion so she can make some absurd emotionalist argument?

[98ZJUSMC]

Then.

Stop.

Demanding.

Child support.

Ba- Da -BING! H50!

FULL DISCLOSURE:  I have never nor will I ever, have to pay child support.

[Freeper]

If the baby is nothing more than a clump of cells then why would the reason for aborting them matter?

[Undies]

The DUmmies want to keep abortion available for the purpose for which it was intended:  to hold down the Negro population.  Nothing more/nothing less.  Keeping the Negro population at a minimum is and always will be the ultimate reason the leftist/socialist/communist/democrats/Satan worshipers are so adamant about keeping abortion politically untouchable.

[Karin]

How can a clump of useless, meaningless cells be gay or not gay?  A gay gene?  There's no genes in there.  It's a lump of goo, that's all, nothing else. 

Right, DUmmies?

[WinOne4TheGipper]

They sure are absolutists about a "right" that's found nowhere in the constitution and didn't exist until the Supreme Court made it up out of whole cloth in 1973.  Logic then dictates, that if I make a "choice" to own a certain type of weapon, my choice should be respected, correct?

[GOBUCKS]

MADem (81,467 posts)

There are plenty of people in this world, believe it or not, who don't regard "gay" as a negative.

Nearly all of them hang out at interstate rest stops.

If prospective parents could know in advance that a pregnancy would result in a homosexual child, it would be as likely to result in abortion as any other terrible birth defect.

[DumbAss Tanker]

One would have to regard the entire 'Gay gene' thing as something more than pseudoscientific bullshit to even enter this argument, and I can't make it over that hurdle.

[Ballygrl]

I've said it for years, if a gay gene is found? that's when the left will put restrictions on abortion.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

One would have to regard the entire 'Gay gene' thing as something more than pseudoscientific bullshit to even enter this argument, and I can't make it over that hurdle.

That's the beauty of this thread: you could easily assuage the fear of anti-gay genocide but the myth of The Gay Gene^TM is more important to their agenda.

I've said it for years, if a gay gene is found? that's when the left will put restrictions on abortion.

Probably not.

There's definitely a "female gene" (OK, chromosome pair, just work with me) and people do get gender based abortions. Libs insist it isn't a big enough problem.

You'd think 1 female life snuffed for no offense other than being female would be enough of a problem for presumably decent and civilized people.

[GOBUCKS]

I've said it for years, if a gay gene is found? that's when the left will put restrictions on abortion.

Any scientist who discovered a genetic marker for homosexuality would be destroyed by the leftist establishment, just like anyone who refutes human-caused global warming.

[thundley4]

Any scientist who discovered a genetic marker for homosexuality would be destroyed by the leftist establishment, just like anyone who refutes human-caused global warming.

Yet they claim that being gay is genetically caused.