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So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« on: December 03, 2021, 07:57:46 PM »
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So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
 
Germany and Australia in particular. It honestly makes it hard to argue against anti-vaxxers and their Hitler comparisons, or maybe I'm just not smart enough to do so. Does anyone from those countries have insights into them? Everything I find is pretty sensational.

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Star Member Phoenix61 (11,419 posts)

1. No it doesn't.

Hitler locked people up to make them easier to kill. Lockdowns are to keep people from being killed.

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Bev54 (4,510 posts)

2. No, maybe look to other countries like Canada

We are trying hard not to have any lockdowns but we have strict vaccination policies and they are needed for all domestic travel and entry to events and restaurants, along with masking. It is working pretty well and it is now the virus of the unvaccinated, but the rest of us follow the rules and are able to move around freely.

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3. It would have seemed unthinkable to me a year ago

Germany, Romania, Poland, France, Greece...

These governments usually carefully weigh real or perceived infringements on human rights against the massive protest potential of citizens who seriously "show up."

It's all very bizarre

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4. Are you ****ing serious?
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MIRT, DUAC!!!!

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Mad_Machine76 (21,658 posts)

5. +1

Yeah

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TlalocW (14,104 posts)

6. Yes

Whether you like it or not the Hitler argument, though played out, can be convincing to other people.

TlalocW

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Star Member NutmegYankee (15,075 posts)

8. Jews, Poles, and Gypsies didn't make a choice.

They were defined by what their grandparents were. An antivaxxer is making a choice.

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Star Member SharonClark (8,283 posts)

10. Only to ignorant hysterical people

who don’t know history and believe Qanon conspiracies. Until the government starts gassing anti-vaxxers, then the Hitler comparison is insulting and wrong.

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Star Member BlackSkimmer (43,073 posts)

9. I don't recall Hitler having lockdowns.

He rounded people up, put them in cattle cars, then sent them to be gassed.

Your comparison is odious.

Their brains are broken... :mental: :mental: :mental:
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2021, 08:57:35 PM »
I knew reading the first comment here it would be.....


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Bunch of f'n sheep.  :rofl:
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2021, 07:59:16 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on December 03, 2021, 08:57:35 PM
I know reading the first comment here it would be.....


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Bunch of f'n sheep.  :rofl:

Funny and typical.  Just caught this post before the original post was removed:

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20. Question: Whats wrong with locking down anti-vaxxers?

Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

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According to leftist definitions, an "anti-vaxxer" also includes people who have been vaccinated but are opposed to mandates.  I'm totally fine with getting the Wuhan "shot", as it clearly isn't a vaccine based on its waning efficacy.  But I'm vaccinated and despise mandating anyone getting one.
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2021, 08:18:21 AM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on December 04, 2021, 07:59:16 AM
Funny and typical.  Just caught this post before the original post was removed:

 :mental:

According to leftist definitions, an "anti-vaxxer" also includes people who have been vaccinated but are opposed to mandates.  I'm totally fine with getting the Wuhan "shot", as it clearly isn't a vaccine based on its waning efficacy.  But I'm vaccinated and despise mandating anyone getting one.

I got the jab because I believed the liars when they said jabbed people could stop wearing masks. They lied, no  "boosters" for me.
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2021, 08:30:20 AM »
Have they said if you’re not boosted you’re not vaxxed yet?  I can’t keep up.

KC
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2021, 08:42:39 AM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on December 04, 2021, 07:59:16 AM
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According to leftist definitions, an "anti-vaxxer" also includes people who have been vaccinated but are opposed to mandates. ... But I'm vaccinated and despise mandating anyone getting one.

To DUmmies I'm an anti-vaxxer? I'm a member of that DUmmie-club? Coooooooool! :rotf:  :tongue:

It's not surprising that the OP was removed (did TlalocW also get tombstoned or thrown into FFR Limbo?). His'her meaning - contrary to Star Moron Phoenix61's diversion attempt - was clear and accurate. Rightly or wrongly, the lockdowns, especially the more stringent one, are fueling "Hitler comparisons" (as well as, "If you believe the vaccines are effective ..." gotcha-questions).
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2021, 08:51:24 AM »
Quote from: Texacon on December 04, 2021, 08:30:20 AM
Have they said if you’re not boosted you’re not vaxxed yet?  I can’t keep up.

KC

I'm sure some DUpipo have. I think some LIEden Klown Kollege types have run that idea up the flagpole, but not enough have saluted to make that stance official.

Speaking personally, I was fully vaccinated some 6 months ago. Rather than blindly heading for Boosterville, I'm going to have the antibody test done (appointment already made). AFAIK, the test doesn't differentiate between antibodies from recovery and antibodies from vaccination (apparently there are tests that do), but if I have OK levels of antibodies, no booster. OTOH, if my antibodies are low - I'm both recovered and vaxxed - I'm OK with getting a booster (at this point I don't expect that).
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2021, 08:54:04 AM »
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So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
 
Germany and Australia in particular. It honestly makes it hard to argue against anti-vaxxers and their Hitler comparisons, or maybe I'm just not smart enough to do so. Does anyone from those countries have insights into them? Everything I find is pretty sensational.

Once again, DU is perturbed by something that should perturb people, but for the wrong reasons.
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2021, 09:14:21 AM »
They are discovering that the China virus is displaying Brandon's incompetence in dealing with the fauci flu and how he lied when he promised to have it under control by now.  They are terrified that this will cause the democrat party to get schlonged in the mid terms.

Their angst makes me smile
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2021, 10:07:24 AM »
This ought to cheer the fascist DUches up. The EU "leaders" look to throw out the Nuremberg Code.  More fascism from the home of fascism and communism the totalitarian EU. So smile DUmmys totalitarianism is descending on europe.
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2021, 10:19:38 AM »
Quote from: Texacon on December 04, 2021, 08:30:20 AM
Have they said if you’re not boosted you’re not vaxxed yet?  I can’t keep up.

KC

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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2021, 10:29:49 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on December 04, 2021, 08:51:24 AM
I'm sure some DUpipo have. I think some LIEden Klown Kollege types have run that idea up the flagpole, but not enough have saluted to make that stance official.

Speaking personally, I was fully vaccinated some 6 months ago. Rather than blindly heading for Boosterville, I'm going to have the antibody test done (appointment already made). AFAIK, the test doesn't differentiate between antibodies from recovery and antibodies from vaccination (apparently there are tests that do), but if I have OK levels of antibodies, no booster. OTOH, if my antibodies are low - I'm both recovered and vaxxed - I'm OK with getting a booster (at this point I don't expect that).


What I kind of see coming is dates attached to the booster or you will be considered un-vaxxed. I don’t believe there will be any push toward antibody tests just, every 4 months you WILL get a booster or your vaccine passport is revoked until you comply.

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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2021, 12:20:53 PM »
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9. I don't recall Hitler having lockdowns.

He rounded people up, put them in cattle cars, then sent them to be gassed.

Your comparison is odious.

Tell that to citizens in Australia.
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
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9. I don't recall Hitler having lockdowns.

He rounded people up, put them in cattle cars, then sent them to be gassed.

Your comparison is odious.

So much wrong in those three lines. blackSkimmer is full of ignorance and always gladly willing to demonstrate it to the world.
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2021, 02:46:25 PM »
They just can't resist bringing Hitler into their discussions

And with how they are so fanatical about demanding everyone getting vaccinated it reminds me of when we learned about the end times in Bible class and how everyone needed to accept the mark of the beast if they wanted to be an accepted member of society.
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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2021, 02:56:19 PM »
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They just can't resist bringing Hitler into their discussions

And with how they are so fanatical about demanding everyone getting vaccinated it reminds me of when we learned about the end times in Bible class and how everyone needed to accept the mark of the beast if they wanted to be an accepted member of society.

Godwin's Law:

A law that states that as the length of a thread proceeds on a newsgroup the probability of a comparison with Hitler or the Nazis approaches one. A number of groups have the tradition that when this happens the discussion is regarded as over.

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Re: So I am somewhat disturbed with the lockdowns happening in other countries
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2021, 03:13:55 PM »
Irony - people who, at the drop of a hat, call their enemies Nazis and Hitler saying it's wrong to call people Nazis and Hitler.
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