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primitives discuss Australian national elections
« on: September 07, 2013, 09:06:19 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014588124

This was before the returns started coming in; the conservatives landslided, big time.

I'll bet LC EFA is smiling, where he's at.....

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Australia election: Abbott poised for victory

Tony Abbott's Liberal-National coalition appears on course for a decisive win in Australia's general election.
 
Early counting showed a swing to the opposition coalition in several states, with exit polls forecasting it would secure a lower house majority.
 
A Newspoll exit poll, released just over an hour before polling closed in the east of the country, predicted that the coalition would secure 97 seats in the 150-seat House of Representatives. ABC News, in its first prediction, put that figure at 93.
 
Labor's Defence Minister Stephen Smith, speaking on ABC television minutes after polls closed in the east, said the government "will be defeated tonight".

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24000133

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Sadly, I can't say I'm totally surprised. Rupert Murdoch has been pimping for Abbott in his media outlets, so it looks like Rupert got the best government money can buy.

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Violet_Crumble (30,257 posts)    Sat Sep 7, 2013, 06:50 AM

1. Here's a link to the results as they're coming in. It sucks...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2013/results/

I knew it was going to be bad, but it still sucks. I'm hoping the Greens can get the balance of power in the Senate...

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Berlin Expat (502 posts)   Sat Sep 7, 2013, 07:09 AM

3. Looks like a rout. I'm sure the recent infighting in Labour didn't help matters, either.

It was a rout.  Too bad for the primitives.
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Re: primitives discuss Australian national elections
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2013, 09:19:39 AM »
From the thread...
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29. Goodbye AU carbon tax.

Hello corporate hegemony.
The lament for lost taxes. Pretty much all they care about.

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2013, 09:36:17 AM »
Maybe the U.S. electorate will catch the conservative virus..... :-)
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2013, 09:37:48 AM »
Maybe the U.S. electorate moderates will catch the conservative virus..... :-)

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2013, 09:46:10 AM »
I don't think the so called conservative party in Australia is conservative by our standards. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2013, 09:48:19 AM »
The Australian election results are a thing of beauty, it's a pity that the Coalition won't have a majority in the Senate but in the House of Representatives (which, critically, determines the government) it's a land-slide for the good guys. Tony Abbott is going to make an excellent Prime Minister as soon as the Governor General swears him in. So of course the DUmmies are miserable about it.


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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2013, 10:02:19 AM »
From the thread...The lament for lost taxes. Pretty much all they care about.

And in that case, a double tragedy for DUmmies. An anti-climate change tax...

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2013, 10:45:45 AM »
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4. That didn't help, but the defeat may have been even worse with Gillard leading the ALP...

Hopefully the ALP will rebuild and a strong leader will emerge.

I'm really bummed that I'm not going to get my NBN. And that they're going to cut 12,000 public service jobs, one of which may well be mine

Well bye.

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5. That guy has never experienced an election sausage sizzle...

That makes turning up to vote fun. I made sure I turned up early just in case they ran out quick...

Early and often. Any bets this DUchebag is a 250+ pounder?

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30. Labor definitely had its own internal conflict.

But the carbon tax was what did labor in, ultimately.

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With Labor in power, despite the infighting, we looked like a modern, forward-looking country. Now we're going to go back to being about fifteen years behind the rest of the world, as I remember it as a child.

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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2013, 10:57:10 AM »
The Violet_Crumble primitive is a major Jew-hater. Hopefully she will lose her job. Her falling over dead would be a bonus.

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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2013, 11:06:23 AM »
The Violet_Crumble primitive is a major Jew-hater. Hopefully she will lose her job. Her falling over dead would be a bonus.

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2013, 11:33:32 AM »
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Tony Abbott is going to make an excellent Prime Minister as soon as the Governor General swears him in.

I hope he doesn't offer a job, like National Historian or Minister of Public Safety, to his sister-in-law in San Diego.

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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2013, 02:16:48 PM »
I hope he doesn't offer a job, like National Historian or Minister of Public Safety, to his sister-in-law in San Diego.

This is a man who has completed an Ironman Triathlon - a physique further removed from gNads it would be difficult to imagine.

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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2013, 03:25:32 PM »
Hey DUmmies, remember what happened to Congress the election after the last time you made gun control a big issue?  Try a carbon tax this time.

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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2013, 03:28:21 PM »
Hey DUmmies, remember what happened to Congress the election after the last time you made gun control a big issue?  Try a carbon tax this time.

 :popcorn:

The Aussies have had a few years of gun control now.....wonder if any of them would like to purchase a weapon?
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2013, 04:39:08 PM »
The Aussies have had a few years of gun control now.....wonder if any of them would like to purchase a weapon?
They've had so many years that many have forgotten the basic rules of firearm safety.
There are a few that do the hoop-jumping to continue shooting. Not many.
Home invasion and strong-arm robberies are favored, as the people can no longer defend themselves.
Naturally, the elderly are the most common victims.
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2013, 05:40:11 PM »
They've had so many years that many have forgotten the basic rules of firearm safety.
There are a few that do the hoop-jumping to continue shooting. Not many.
Home invasion and strong-arm robberies are favored, as the people can no longer defend themselves.
Naturally, the elderly are the most common victims.

I suspect that, much like the US, there is a huge difference between how that law works in the urban vs. the rural environments.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2013, 05:56:12 PM »
I suspect that, much like the US, there is a huge difference between how that law works in the urban vs. the rural environments.
True. Seems even the semi-rural areas are being hit now.
It's just sad that kids now days can't even be taught basic firearm safety in schools here.
Shooting teams used to be fairly common even in smaller towns. Not anymore.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2013, 05:58:49 PM »
True. Seems even the semi-rural areas are being hit now.
It's just sad that kids now days can't even be taught basic firearm safety in schools here.
Shooting teams used to be fairly common even in smaller towns. Not anymore.
Heaven help you even if you point a finger or a stick.
I'm sick of that shit, DAT.
My son was on the AJROTC rifle team, they used air rifles. Years ago they used .22's. Son got bored after awhile and moved to color guard.
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2013, 07:47:05 PM »
I'm sick of that shit, DAT.

Oh, yeah.  It's not the issue around here that it is most places, but I'm sure sooner or later we'll end up with a superintendent or principal who "Ain't from around here."  At least all my kids are old enough to have public school in their rearview mirrors.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2013, 08:14:28 PM »
Oh, yeah.  It's not the issue around here that it is most places, but I'm sure sooner or later we'll end up with a superintendent or principal who "Ain't from around here."  At least all my kids are old enough to have public school in their rearview mirrors.
I think you're old enough to remember the high school shooting teams.
I know you're old enough to remember public shooting ranges. (your 39, right?)
I don't know DAT, I just see an erosion of liberties and freedom we had as youngsters.
I see no good in that. None at all.
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2013, 09:52:28 PM »
I think you're old enough to remember the high school shooting teams.
I know you're old enough to remember public shooting ranges. (your 39, right?)
I don't know DAT, I just see an erosion of liberties and freedom we had as youngsters.
I see no good in that. None at all.

There are a variety of reasons why it's bad, ranging from feminizing everyone regardless of their hormones and all the unnatural stresses that inflicts, to the outlawing and shaming of risk, to setting up kids to be victims the first time they leave the nursery at age 18 and encounter real life and the actual bastards that inhabit it, to setting them up for PTSD all around the first time their absolutely-unprepared little psyches encounter a 'Significant Emotional Event.' 
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2013, 10:09:08 PM »
There are a variety of reasons why it's bad, ranging from feminizing everyone regardless of their hormones and all the unnatural stresses that inflicts, to the outlawing and shaming of risk, to setting up kids to be victims the first time they leave the nursery at age 18 and encounter real life and the actual bastards that inhabit it, to setting them up for PTSD all around the first time their absolutely-unprepared little psyches encounter a 'Significant Emotional Event.' 
A simple "yes", would have been OK.  :-)



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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2013, 09:23:22 AM »
I think you're old enough to remember the high school shooting teams.
I know you're old enough to remember public shooting ranges. (your 39, right?)
I don't know DAT, I just see an erosion of liberties and freedom we had as youngsters.
I see no good in that. None at all.

in HS, about half the vehicles parked in the school parking lot were pickup trucks, about half of those having gun racks in the back windows, and almost all of those having a rifle or shotgun of some sort in it.  All parked on school property

No one was shot, nobody said a word.

As a teenager in HS, all the boys carried a lock back knife with a blade 3-4 inches long, in a leather case attached to their belts (including me).

No one was stabbed, nobody said a word.

In HS, we had firearm safety classes taught in Health/PE, usually around hunting season in the fall, taught by local LEO's and game wardens, followed by allowing everyone to shoot a .22 at paper targets in a field behind the school. Some teachers even allowed students to bring their own rifles to scope them in.

No one got hurt, nobody said a word.

We didn't have a "resource officer" (armed, uniformed policeman) on the premises back then, we didn't need them, because no one got stupid and try to harm others.
 
We had a designated smoking area for students that smoked.  Teachers in the industrial arts classes usually chewed or dipped, and allowed their students to so the same, as long as we were neat about it.

No one died from cancer or second hand smoke, nobody said a word.

We were taught CO2 was the building block of life, and were warned that we may be heading toward another "ice age".

That was 35-40 years ago, when the world was sane, and liberals were rare.

Now, I can't be legally parked on school property with a firearm in the car, even with a CCW.

A pocket knife is considered a "weapon".

Kids get expelled for bringing water pistols and plastic knives to school, or even having them on school grounds, or even drawing a picture of one, or even pointing a finger at someone and making a "bang" sound, or even thinking about doing any of the above.

Schools are "Tobacco Fee Zones", and I'm sure the tobacco nazis have periodic sweeps of the students' cars and lockers, looking for "contraband".

CO2 is a "pollutant", and globull warming is real.

This is what the "progressives" call "Progress".

I call it BULLSHIT!
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2013, 09:45:49 AM »
in HS, about half the vehicles parked in the school parking lot were pickup trucks, about half of those having gun racks in the back windows, and almost all of those having a rifle or shotgun of some sort in it.  All parked on school property

No one was shot, nobody said a word.

As a teenager in HS, all the boys carried a lock back knife with a blade 3-4 inches long, in a leather case attached to their belts (including me).

No one was stabbed, nobody said a word.

In HS, we had firearm safety classes taught in Health/PE, usually around hunting season in the fall, taught by local LEO's and game wardens, followed by allowing everyone to shoot a .22 at paper targets in a field behind the school. Some teachers even allowed students to bring their own rifles to scope them in.

No one got hurt, nobody said a word.

We didn't have a "resource officer" (armed, uniformed policeman) on the premises back then, we didn't need them, because no one got stupid and try to harm others.
 
We had a designated smoking area for students that smoked.  Teachers in the industrial arts classes usually chewed or dipped, and allowed their students to so the same, as long as we were neat about it.

No one died from cancer or second hand smoke, nobody said a word.

We were taught CO2 was the building block of life, and were warned that we may be heading toward another "ice age".

That was 35-40 years ago, when the world was sane, and liberals were rare.

Now, I can't be legally parked on school property with a firearm in the car, even with a CCW.

A pocket knife is considered a "weapon".

Kids get expelled for bringing water pistols and plastic knives to school, or even having them on school grounds, or even drawing a picture of one, or even pointing a finger at someone and making a "bang" sound, or even thinking about doing any of the above.

Schools are "Tobacco Fee Zones", and I'm sure the tobacco nazis have periodic sweeps of the students' cars and lockers, looking for "contraband".

CO2 is a "pollutant", and globull warming is real.

This is what the "progressives" call "Progress".

I call it BULLSHIT!
50+ years ago we weren't taught gun safety at school and not taught shooting in school.....we were supposed to learn that at home. But otherwise everything you said goes for the way it was for me.



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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2013, 03:28:41 PM »
I know all of my friends in the ADF are ecstatic over the election results.
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