censorship on Skins's island

[franksolich]

http://balzac.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/censorship-at-democraticundergroundcom/

Oh my.

This is old, but good.

There's lots and lots of comments--the page is a mile long--but this one's a good example:

Manuel A. Tellechea Says:

June 15, 2006 at 10:16 pm
CENSORSHIP AT THE “DEMOCRATIC” UNDERGROUND

Democratic Underground, also known as DU, describes itself as an “online community for Democrats and other progressives.” According to its web page, its membership is restricted by policy to those who are “generally supportive of progressive ideals,” and who “support Democratic candidates for political office.” [1] However, the scope of discussion is wide and members represent a broad spectrum of liberal beliefs and backgrounds. DU was established on January 20, 2001, the day President George W. Bush was inaugurated.

Since its inception, over 90,000 forum accounts have been created with over 1,000 still remaining active. Over 20 million messages have been posted. There is no cost for membership and participation, although voluntary donations are solicited quarterly, and some services are available only to donating members. DU publishes articles six days a week and has an online store, a directory of links, and forums where logged-in members may post on various topics of interest.

DU has several regular columns, and on any given day may have a number of guest columns sent in from contributors.

Mondays: Top Ten Conservative Idiots, a rundown of the most outrageous right-wing activities in the past week, according to the DU administrators.
Wednesdays: The Plaid Adder writes her column.
Thursdays: Ask Auntie Pinko, an ‘advice’ column.
Fridays: Equal Time with Bob Boudelang, a satirical column supposedly written by a Republican Team Leader.
Occasionally, DU will feature a Hate Mailbag of hate mail.
Bernard Weiner and Ernest Partridge of The Crisis Papers[2] are frequent guests.

Forums
The DU Forums are a highly active scene for political discussions by “Democrats and other progressives”. To maintain the desired atmosphere in the forums, the administrators will sometimes “tombstone” (ban) users for violating site policies, such as these:

We ban conservative disruptors who are opposed to the broad goals of this website. If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned.

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Have a thick skin. Please be aware that just because you consider a post to be offensive does not mean that it is against the rules or bigoted. As a general rule of thumb, posts about ideas are generally okay, but posts about groups of people are often inappropriate.

The main forums on DU have been re-arranged since the close of the 2004 US election season. They now include:

Latest Breaking News
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Individual forums for the discussion of state and local issues.
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“Group” forums where chartered groups of users may discuss topics of mutual interest such as hobbies, fan clubs, and potential 2008 presidential candidates.
An “Ask the Administrators” forum was maintained until April 26, 2005; this forum allowed users to pose questions to the board administrators. This forum has now been shut down by the administrators, who felt that the forum was being used as a medium for people to issue complaints, with the nature of their complaints being inflammatory. A “Rules” page, a “Frequently Asked Questions” page, and a “Contact the Administrators” page showing the email addresses of the administrators have been substituted.

Two of the most controversial forums are often scenes of hot debate between posters:

The Justice/Public Safety board, used for discussing gun issues and commonly referred to as the “Gun Dungeon” or “Gungeon”; and
The Israel-Palestinian affairs board, sometimes referred to as the “Basement.”

Influencing polls
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This sort of attempt to influence online polls is employed by many activist websites of all political stripes.

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After the 2004 election, many members displayed an upside-down American flag as their avatar; an inverted flag is an international symbol of distress.

An online community
Some prolific members have posted more than 1,000 times (the point at which their posts stop displaying the exact total). Through frequent contact in the forums (including special topic groups) and online private messages, members come to know one another. Discussions range beyond politics to include such diverse subjects as pets, pet peeves, and pop culture. Occasionally, members organize face-to-face get-togethers.

Like other communities, DU has its in-jokes. New members are often confused by DU vocabulary, usually referencing pop culture (”this thread needs more cowbell”), deficient spelling skills (such as “cazy,” “moran,” and “noble jesters”), or long-running threads that have worked their way into DU “lore” (”dupe,” “the kudzu thread”).

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Demopedia
On December 7, 2004, DU launched the beta version of Demopedia, a wiki based collaborative project aimed at presenting the Democratic and progressive opinion and outlook, and at collating and preserving some of the information generated on the forums. During the beta, only users who had registered at DU before December 7 were able to contribute. It uses the MediaWiki software.

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While supporters of Ralph Nader are a distinct minority at DU, many posts criticize the Democratic Party from the left. Democrats such as Joe Lieberman and Dianne Feinstein, who are more inclined toward compromise and conciliation with the Bush Administration, are regularly attacked at DU, while Democrats such as John Conyers and Barbara Boxer, who favor a more confrontational approach, are more highly regarded.

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Activist Corps
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The first Activist Corps action was posted on July 12; members wrote letters to the editors of local newspapers regarding Karl Rove’s role in the leaking of CIA agent Valerie Plame’s name. More than 70 letters were published in newspapers throughout the country. Other Corps activities have included signing onlinepetitions to U.S. Senators asking them to reject Supreme Court nominee John Roberts, and to write letters of support Cindy Sheehan.

Political candidates
Some DUers have run for, and have even been elected to, political offices as high as Congress. Examples of these include:

Herb Riede, the Mayor of McSherrystown, Pennsylvania;
Monica McGlocklin, a three-term former member of the Maine House of Representatives;
Elizabeth Rogers, Congressman J.D. Hayworth’s opponent in the 2004 election;
Jeff Seemann, Congressman Ralph Regula’s opponent in the 2004 election; (In an ironic twist, during his campaign, Seemann was banned from DU as a disruptor even though he was the Democratic Party’s candidate for his Congressional district.)
Justin Sowa, Congressman Paul Ryan’s potential opponent in the 2006 election; and
The late Andy Stephenson, a voting-reform activist who ran against Sam Reed for Washington Secretary of State in 2004.
Carl Sheeler who is running for the Democratic Nomination to run for the US Senate from Rhode Island in 2006.
Debate over which candidates deserve support from DU members occurs frequently.

State Forums
DU also provides specific forums for each state, where statewide issues are addressed by State residents and those with an interest in state specific issues such as primaries, gubenatorial races and the like.

Notable members
Several notable figures have posted in the forums at some point. Among those who have been verified as not being hoaxes are:

Ben Burch, noted sexworkers’ rights activist;
Wes Clark, Jr., the son of Wesley Clark;
John Conyers, member of the House of Representatives from Michigan;
Elizabeth Edwards, the wife of John Edwards;
Christopher Heinz, a son of Teresa Heinz Kerry;
Larry C. Johnson, a former CIA agent;
William Rivers Pitt, liberal activist and author;
David L. Wolper, noted filmmaker.

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The administrators have directed the moderators to remove any attempts by members to discuss the site on the site and this is routinely done, occasionally resulting in the banning of members. Controversy has also arisen over allegations that the owners of Democratic Underground often favor their largest cash contributors during debates in the message forums. Critics point to the dominance of several member block constituencies that appear to wield undue influence on the direction DU’s moderators take in resolving member disputes.

Other critics, including supporters of right-wing politics, charge that there is irony in claiming to stand for progressive and liberal ideals while enforcing arbitrary limitations on ideological diversity and freedom of speech.

Citing unusual comments
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[Crazy Horse]

Since its inception, over 90,000 forum accounts have been created with over 1,000 still remaining active.

That really stuck out to me

[Carl]

Been wandering the island off and on today and they are in one of their funks it seems.
All kinds of meandering threads in search of a collective outrage.

They seem to sense that all the shrieks of the past will soon be just that...the past,and it seems to be dawning on them that they are irrelevant.

They search for more rage.

[franksolich]

That really stuck out to me.

Actually, there's lots that really stuck out to me, myself.

Including Fat Che being listed as a "notable."

The Bostonian Drunkard one expected, but Fat Che?

There's a lot of stuff in just that single comment copied-and-pasted above, not to mention other comments at the link, but it's just too much to go through with a fine-toothed comb.

[BlueStateSaint]

Actually, there's lots that really stuck out to me, myself.

Including Fat Che being listed as a "notable."

The Bostonian Drunkard one expected, but Fat Che?

There's a lot of stuff in just that single comment copied-and-pasted above, not to mention other comments at the link, but it's just too much to go through with a fine-toothed comb.

Coach, sir, you'd have to use 12-molar hydrochloric acid on that comb, to be able to use it on anything, ever again.

[delilahmused]

You know, there used to be pages of paranoid ramblings about Bush never giving up his presidency and they seem all but forgotten now. Oh sure, there's the occasional (Cheney, Poppy, Haliburton) is still pulling all the strings...most often by gay DUmmies these days who've come to realize that Obama, like most on the left, don't give one whit about their "right" to marry...because if he truly had power he would miraculously grant every liberal faction their hearts desire with a flip of his wrist. I fully expect each little group will be given their opportunity at outrage. When your party has led you to believe that YOUR issue (and thus yourself) is the most important issue facing the human race and then discover its only important when they need something from you, well you would tend to get a little miffed to find out you aren't the center of the universe. Kind of like the little kid whose told he'll get a treat at the store if he just behaves then at the checkout line realizes he's not getting anything...or maybe just a token tootsie roll pop among a sea of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. Without outrage the Democrat party would cease to exist. The powers that be have to keep them always on the edge, always outraged, always helpless with villains aplenty to blame, always thrown a token here and there, always with their ultimate goal just...out...of...reach. If they were capable of finding out their lot in life and their happiness (regardless of the hand dealt) is wholly dependent on themselves they wouldn't need a false Messiah to prop them up and say soothing nothings with pretty words.

Cindie

[USA4ME]

Without outrage the Democrat party would cease to exist. The powers that be have to keep them always on the edge, always outraged, always helpless with villains aplenty to blame, always thrown a token here and there, always with their ultimate goal just...out...of...reach.

Cindie

Yep.  Without their ability to grant themselves perpetual victimhood, they would have no reason to live.

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