primitives discuss paypal

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x8995892

Oh my.

madamesilverspurs  (1000+ posts)       Fri Aug-21-09 06:22 PM
Original message
 
Paypal experience?

Hope someone can help calm me down, here. I'm part-owner of a very small business. We just recently got our website up, but it's been a bit of a dry spell. So we were thrilled to get an order. I went online to one of our usual suppliers and placed an order, paying for it with Paypal. AFTER the order went through the supplier gave the usual 'thanks for your order' screen, then added that they are closed for vacation until the 28th and would ship our order at that time. That won't work, seeing as how I'm supposed to deliver the finished product on the 28th. I contacted paypal and they indicate that only the vendor can cancel the payment.

So, I'll spend the weekend trying to collect early from a couple of people we did small jobs for, in order to go elsewhere to get the supplies I need in order to complete this new order (which we really need!). Has anyone had this kind of experience, and how did you handle it? And no, we won't be going back to the skanky original supplier.

michreject  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-21-09 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
 
1. How did you pay?

Was it a credit card using PP or was it PP tied into your checking acct?

madamesilverspurs  (1000+ posts)       Fri Aug-21-09 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
 
2. PP tied to checking account.

The cross-eyed Iowa primitive:

Hawkeye-X  (1000+ posts)         Fri Aug-21-09 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #2
 
4. Call your bank and also dispute the charges

State that you ordered the product expecting rapid delivery, but you found out that he's closed until the 28th, and that is unacceptable for you.

The bank will reverse the charges - it'll take 2-3 business days though.

michreject  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-21-09 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #4
 
11. It wasn't a credit card payment

It's not easy getting a refund once you send money from your checking acct.

michreject  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-21-09 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #2
 
8. The person you sent it to has to initiate the refund.

Hawkeye-X  (1000+ posts)         Fri Aug-21-09 06:30 PM
Response to Original message
 
3. Here.. you can dispute the payment saying that you are not getting your product on time.

There's the Resolution Center...

That'll force the supplier to lose his payment until he resolves it quickly. Paypal will hold the money, not the supplier. Neither money are yours or his until the resolution is over. Then you will get paid when there's an agreement to release the money back to you.

Then you can order from another supplier and get the matter resolved.

michreject  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-21-09 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
 
10. Ain't gonna work

If you file a dispute, the seller has a time frame to respond to the dispute. He has 10 days.

Hawkeye-X  (1000+ posts)         Fri Aug-21-09 06:32 PM
Response to Original message
 
5. PM me - I'll help you (I'm in Denver) if you need some hand-holding

Don't trust the cross-eyed Iowa primitive with any numbers that appear on a plastic card or run along the bottom of a check, though; remember what the cross-eyed Iowa primitive is.

gmoney  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-21-09 06:37 PM
Response to Original message
 
6. You could also try contacting the supplier about shipping sooner.
 
Try to dig up a cell number or the person's name and try looking up a home number -- there should be SOME way to get in contact with them before the 28th. E-mail, call their main number and leave a voicemail, etc.

They probably don't want to lose your order either, and might rise to the occasion, especially if you've been a customer previously.

Worth a shot. :/

madamesilverspurs  (1000+ posts)       Fri Aug-21-09 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #6
 
7. Yeah, I already left voicemail and sent email.

They're not responding to anything until the 31st. Cruddy way to do business, yeah? And, yes, last year we did a lot of business with them.

pitohui  (1000+ posts)       Fri Aug-21-09 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
 
9. they're on vacation, its ****ing AUGUST

i'm sorry to say that you are the bad guy here, you'll get your money back plus the penalty they have to pay because you renegeed

but honestly it's ****ing AUGUST in the middle of a ****ing recession? if they can't go on vacation then, i guess it's not allowed ever -- they are supposed to be slaves forever and never have one minute of free time because they ****ed up and couldn't get a job in corporate america -- oh believe you me, i've met you and your unreasonable expectations before

be aware people...if you are a sole proprietor or it's just you and your wife...you are a ****ing slave and a scumbag if you go on vacation any time ****ing whatsoever

if you needed something immediately you should have checked out the T&Cs and also not done business w. a small business before you pushed the button

i'll admit it, i do small business and i do paypal, and paypal has always done right by me, and MOST people are ****ing decent and understand if i leave a notice on my page that guess what, it's ****ing august and i'm hiking far far away from the email and the internet it's allowed two ****ing weeks out of the year

this is DU not slave driver's underground

i'm sorry for your trouble but you made the mistake and now you want to punish/blame everybody else

i have a customer i do a lot of business with, and it frustrates me that they have this attitude, i don't wish to lose 10K of biz a year but i send them multiple notices i'll be hiking, there will be no internet, and we have TWO ****ING MONTHS to get our ducks in a row, and what happens? every ****ing time, we're good, we're cool, we're all set...and then i go and then i come back to five hundred ****ing panicked emails about where the **** are you? we need this by 4 PM this afternoon STAT!!!!

hey, my business ain't heart surgery, you don't need any ****ing thing STAT, if you can't get it together and allow me some freaking time to myself...guess ****ing what...for 10K a year i'm not gonna be your ****ing bitch

no sane person would be an independent businessperson, if you're a federal convict or have some other sad story and you truly have no choice, what can you do? but you young people out there... never, ever go into business for yourself, lincoln freed the ****ing slaves, don't undo his good work

YOU SOLD SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T ****ING HAVE, ADMIT IT OR NOT YOU'RE THE BAD GUY NOT THE POOR DUDE WHO HAD THE ****ING NERVE TO GO ON VACATION

Oh my.

[Carl]

 

[The Village Idiot]

How small does a business have to be to need the money from Customer A to get the supplies to make the product for Customer B?

[franksolich]

How small does a business have to be to need the money from Customer A to get the supplies to make the product for Customer B?

It appears to me they spent the gross--not the net, but the gross--from their last sale on drugs.  The business appears to be in sex-toys.

[The Village Idiot]

It appears to me they spent the gross--not the net, but the gross--from their last sale on drugs.  The business appears to be in sex-toys.

I did not need to know that

[JohnnyReb]

Oh the joys of being your own boss. Selfemployment is the greatest....and you get to be one of the evil rich....blah-blah-blah

Suck it up and go DUmmies.

[LC EFA]

How small does a business have to be to need the money from Customer A to get the supplies to make the product for Customer B?

How small of an order does it have to be for the purchaser not to bother getting on the telephone and calling the supplier to ensure they even have stock of the item and get an approximate delivery time/ wait time ?

As a side note - While they're bitching that some small business owner is taking some time off - aren't these people the ones that are bleating and pleading for a Euro-style 6 week paid vacation period each year ? Simultaneously wanting smaller and smaller "cooperative" style businesses ?  How does that work out for you eh DUmmies ?

[The Village Idiot]

Don't Euros take the month of August off anyway

[Freeper]

Don't Euros take the month of August off anyway

So did Bush according to the DUmp. 

[thundley4]

How small of an order does it have to be for the purchaser not to bother getting on the telephone and calling the supplier to ensure they even have stock of the item and get an approximate delivery time/ wait time ?

As a side note - While they're bitching that some small business owner is taking some time off - aren't these people the ones that are bleating and pleading for a Euro-style 6 week paid vacation period each year ? Simultaneously wanting smaller and smaller "cooperative" style businesses ?  How does that work out for you eh DUmmies ?

Quote from: FGL on Today at 07:11:07 pm
How small does a business have to be to need the money from Customer A to get the supplies to make the product for Customer B?

What kind of idiot sets up their website to take orders, and not have finished products on hand to deliver?   

[Freeper]

What kind of idiot sets up their website to take orders, and not have finished products on hand to deliver?   

Do you really need an answer to that question? 

DUmmies that's who.

[Freeper]

pitohui  (1000+ posts)       Fri Aug-21-09 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
 
9. they're on vacation, its ****ing AUGUST

i'm sorry to say that you are the bad guy here, you'll get your money back plus the penalty they have to pay because you renegeed

but honestly it's ****ing AUGUST in the middle of a ****ing recession? if they can't go on vacation then, i guess it's not allowed ever -- they are supposed to be slaves forever and never have one minute of free time because they ****ed up and couldn't get a job in corporate america -- oh believe you me, i've met you and your unreasonable expectations before

be aware people...if you are a sole proprietor or it's just you and your wife...you are a ****ing slave and a scumbag if you go on vacation any time ****ing whatsoever

if you needed something immediately you should have checked out the T&Cs and also not done business w. a small business before you pushed the button

i'll admit it, i do small business and i do paypal, and paypal has always done right by me, and MOST people are ****ing decent and understand if i leave a notice on my page that guess what, it's ****ing august and i'm hiking far far away from the email and the internet it's allowed two ****ing weeks out of the year

this is DU not slave driver's underground

i'm sorry for your trouble but you made the mistake and now you want to punish/blame everybody else

i have a customer i do a lot of business with, and it frustrates me that they have this attitude, i don't wish to lose 10K of biz a year but i send them multiple notices i'll be hiking, there will be no internet, and we have TWO ****ING MONTHS to get our ducks in a row, and what happens? every ****ing time, we're good, we're cool, we're all set...and then i go and then i come back to five hundred ****ing panicked emails about where the **** are you? we need this by 4 PM this afternoon STAT!!!!

hey, my business ain't heart surgery, you don't need any ****ing thing STAT, if you can't get it together and allow me some freaking time to myself...guess ****ing what...for 10K a year i'm not gonna be your ****ing bitch

no sane person would be an independent businessperson, if you're a federal convict or have some other sad story and you truly have no choice, what can you do? but you young people out there... never, ever go into business for yourself, lincoln freed the ****ing slaves, don't undo his good work

YOU SOLD SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T ****ING HAVE, ADMIT IT OR NOT YOU'RE THE BAD GUY NOT THE POOR DUDE WHO HAD THE ****ING NERVE TO GO ON VACATION

has become,

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[BEG]

Wow, and  I thought I said "****" a lot. 

[Chris]

Wow, and  I thought I said "****" a lot.  

I completely overlooked that.  Here's his post with everything else removed.

pitohui  (1000+ posts)       Fri Aug-21-09 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
 
9. ****ing

****ing ****ing ****ed

****ing ****ing

****ing ****ing ****ing

****ING ****ing ****ing ****!!!!

****ing ****ing ****ing

****ing

****ING ****ING

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[Lord Undies]

Whatever power the use of "****" and "****ing" has is lost on me.  It has no meaning or direction.  I cannot imagine why anyone would go out of their way to actually include such a sign of obvious empty intellect when communicating with written words. 

I would like to see "****" and "****ing" replaced with "stem" and "stemming".  It would at least be entertaining.

"You sloth-like stemming stem!" 

[BEG]

Whatever power the use of "****" and "****ing" has is lost on me.  It has no meaning or direction.  I cannot imagine why anyone would go out of their way to actually include such a sign of obvious empty intellect when communicating with written words. 

I would like to see "****" and "****ing" replaced with "stem" and "stemming".  It would at least be entertaining.

"You sloth-like stemming stem!" 

Sometimes there is no other word but "****" to describe something...especially a DUer.

[USA4ME]

Hawkeye-X
 
PM me - I'll help you (I'm in Denver) if you need some hand-holding

The bobbling primitive, who lives in her car near the library in Denver, could use some compassion and a place to stay.  How about practicing what you preach, hypocrite?

.

[LC EFA]

Wow, and  I thought I said "****" a lot. 

I constantly struggle not to punctuate expletives with profanities. 

[The Village Idiot]

Pithole ex-Primitive might want to be a little more passionte next time before someone getsthe idea that he doesn't care about this topic.

[kenth]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x8995892

Oh my.
...
Oh my.

That was an outstanding rant.

[BlueStateSaint]

Sometimes there is no other word but "****" to describe something...especially a DUer.

And we all hope they don't actually **** . . . at least something that is living . . .

[DumbAss Tanker]

Don't Euros take the month of August off anyway

So does Quebec.  I once had a cell phone made by a company there, I had a tech question for them one time in late July, and found out they were closed until the end of August.  I wouldn't be surprised to find out this idiot's supplier is in Canada.

[Celtic Rose]

has become,

Typical, somebody shows some sense at the DUmp and it gets deleted.  Pretty awesome rant though 

[Lord Undies]

Sometimes there is no other word but "****" to describe something...especially a DUer.

Since I am known never to use profanity it is especially powerful when I do.  If I say "****" or "****ing" in the course of a verbal outburst, it gets the same reaction as gun fire in a cafeteria.  People gasp, freeze, drop whatever they are holding, and head for the floor.

[RobJohnson]

Since I am known never to use profanity it is especially powerful when I do.  If I say "****" or "****ing" in the course of a verbal outburst, it gets the same reaction as gun fire in a cafeteria.  People gasp, freeze, drop whatever they are holding, and head for the floor.

That is what it was like the first time my co-workers heard me swear....at my last two jobs....even though it's not uncommon for me to say those words outside of work.