http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6360967Oh my.
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dtotire (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:00 AM
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PAPER: Canadians visit U.S. to get care; Many go to Michigan hospitals... Hospitals in border citie
This has been known for some time; Canadians who live near American cities can get obtain treatment in an American hospital. It saves the Canadians from duplicating facilities which are available nearby across the border. The American hospitals are compensated by the Provincial Ministry of Health and cost the recipient nothing. Both benefit. This has been distorted by wingnuts as a failure of the single-payer system.
PAPER: Canadians visit U.S. to get care; Many go to Michigan hospitals...
Hospitals in border cities, including Detroit, are forging lucrative arrangements with Canadian health agencies to provide care not widely available across the border.
Agreements between Detroit hospitals and the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care for heart, imaging tests, bariatric and other services provide access to some services not immediately available in the province, said ministry spokesman David Jensen.
The agreements show how a country with a national care system -- a proposal not part of the health care changes under discussion in Congress -- copes with demand for care with U.S. partnerships, rather than building new facilities.
http://freep.com/article/20090820/BUSINESS06/908200420/... /
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:09 AM
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1. Duplicating services? The article seems to suggest the services are provided HERE because they aren't available there, or aren't available in a timely manner.
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:19 AM
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6. I think you have to understand how fluid the Michigan / Canadian border is. I know because I grew up there and, while growing up, we really didn't think of each other as "Canadians" or "Americans". It appears to me that the Canadians of made a totally pragmatic (and NAFTA-ish) decision to not spend 10s of millions of dollars to build facilities and infrastructures that are a mere hop, skip, and jump away.
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:22 AM
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7. A direct quote from the OP..
""It saves the Canadians from duplicating facilities which are available nearby across the border. ""
In other words the services are not wastefully duplicated in Canada. If Canadians were not to come across the border for these services then there would have to be more Canadian facilities.
I suspect that the Canadian government has negotiated very good terms for its citizens to use US facilities, something the US government will not do for its citizens.
SidDithers (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:26 AM
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9. Those services are available in Canada...but in some Canadian border citites, it makes more sense to get them at the closest facility, rather than the closest Canadian facility.
From Windsor, Detroit is much more convenient than getting the same specialized treatment at the nearest Canadian major medical research facilities in London (~1½ hours away), Hamilton (2½ hours) or Toronto (3½ hours).
L0oniX (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:10 AM
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2. freep ???? Hmmmmm
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marmar (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:12 AM
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3. Freep is the website of the Detroit Free Press.
A typically MSM paper.
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:14 AM
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4. So their country takes care of their health no matter where they are, even in another country.
I say Lucky Canadians, who have a country that actually cares about it's citizens.
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:15 AM
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5. how many thousands of people in detroit have no health insurance...if we had a national health service the hospitals in detroit would not have the room for canadians.......
pretty dam sick..the Canadian government "pays" it`s citizens to go to the usa...while our government allows over 50 million to fend for themselves
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texasleo (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:24 AM
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8. But Canada is a communist country. Why are they paying for this care in America?
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:56 AM
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10. As someone that worked in Petosky MI I can tell you what I saw.
This was in the late 80's and the Canadian government worked out a deal with the hospital (one of many) to do their excess open heart patients. These patients paid nothing, they liked their health care and everyone I asked said they would never trade it for what we had/have.
Yeah, yeah.
