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Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« on: June 02, 2011, 04:48:24 PM »
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Tea Party of La. Rejects National Popular Vote Pledges to Defeat State Legislators Who Vote "YES" to Bill in Fall Elections

BATON ROUGE - Republican State Rep. Nickie Monica (R - District 57) has introduced legislation to change the manner Louisiana selects its presidential electors to implement a national popular vote system.

"This would be the end of the American republic, if this bill passes," said Bob Reid, spokesman for the Tea Party of Louisiana.

"The founders of America created the most sophisticated system of government known to man - a government designed to give the people more power than the government. This national popular vote initiative would literally uproot our system of government and would destroy our country," added Reid.

A National Popular Vote would allow Presidential candidates to win the White House by simply earning 50% + 1 of the popular vote. It would eliminate the role of the states in elections. Ultimately, it would allow presidential candidates to win the White House by only campaigning to New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago because of the massive populations of those cities. It would also give more power at the ballot box to special interests groups.

"Americans must stop this slow transformation of America into a socialist state and reject the bill for a national popular vote," said Reid.

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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 04:58:48 PM »
First time the democrats lose the popular vote but would have won the EC they'd scream to go originalist.
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2011, 11:07:38 PM »
What does instituting a popular vote have to do with socialism?
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 08:47:47 AM »
A national popular vote would give California, Florida, NY, and Illinois even more pull than they have now, and more specifically the major cities in those states.  It would completely freeze out any other interests at the State or regional level in favor of urban mass media culture for the twenty largest cities in the US.  It beats the Hell out of me why a GOP Senator from a State without a supercity would want this. 
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 08:53:05 AM »
With a popular vote, politicians could just skip campaigning in about 40 states as their votes wouldnt matter.
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 08:55:48 AM »
Quote from: Janice on June 08, 2011, 08:53:05 AM
With a popular vote, politicians could just skip campaigning in about 40 states as their votes wouldnt matter.

Sure, but Louisiana would be one of the forty.  WTF, over?
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 09:56:20 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 08, 2011, 08:55:48 AM
Sure, but Louisiana would be one of the forty.  WTF, over?

I wish idiots in this nation, both R and D, would learn about the history of this nation and why it was created the way it was. Popular vote would turn us from a Representative Republic to a Democracy, which is nothing but rule by the mob.
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 10:01:42 AM »
There's undoubtedly money behind this swaying him.
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 11:32:01 AM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 11:07:38 PM
What does instituting a popular vote have to do with socialism?

Take it one step further.  Remember Florida in 2000?  Were you old enough to vote then?  While I'm guessing you weren't, it doesn't take someone of vast worldly experience to determine that every four years, instead of possibly ONE Florida, you'd have 50 of them--chaos.  A goat rope of the highest order.

Then again, have any of the people who are proposing this crap even READ the Constitution?  Who elects the President, Scooter?  (Hint: NOT the people.)

A straight popular vote would be akin to simply taking the Constitution and throwing it out.  Look at the rural/urban dynamic in communist/socialist countries.  See a bit of a discrepancy there as far as allocation of goods and services, Scooter?
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 12:35:24 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on June 08, 2011, 09:56:20 AM
I wish idiots in this nation, both R and D, would learn about the history of this nation and why it was created the way it was. Popular vote would turn us from a Representative Republic to a Democracy, which is nothing but rule by the mob.

Liberals in both partys have little use for the Constitution because it places LIMITS on THEIR POWER.


The LESS power they (government) has, the MORE liberty we have.

The MORE power they have, the LESS liberty and property rights we have.

Of course ...


The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.
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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin

Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.
-- -- Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 09:23:13 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on June 08, 2011, 11:32:01 AM
Take it one step further.  Remember Florida in 2000?  Were you old enough to vote then?  While I'm guessing you weren't, it doesn't take someone of vast worldly experience to determine that every four years, instead of possibly ONE Florida, you'd have 50 of them--chaos.  A goat rope of the highest order.

Then again, have any of the people who are proposing this crap even READ the Constitution?  Who elects the President, Scooter?  (Hint: NOT the people.)

A straight popular vote would be akin to simply taking the Constitution and throwing it out.  Look at the rural/urban dynamic in communist/socialist countries.  See a bit of a discrepancy there as far as allocation of goods and services, Scooter?
None of that answers my question. (The answer is it doesnt)
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 08:24:01 AM »
Have you even bothered to READ the Constitution?  Seriously?

A straight popular vote might SOUND Democratic, but in reality it would be closer to a socialist "ideal" due to the ease with which the vote could be manipulated.

Remember, your hero Uncle Joe is the one who said, "'It's not the people who vote that count--it's the people that count the votes."  Kinda why your other butt-buddy Soros has spent so much money trying to get Democrat Secretaries of State elected.  Of course, willful ignorance, while your stock in trade, doesn't become you very well.
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2011, 12:32:21 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on June 09, 2011, 08:24:01 AM
Have you even bothered to READ the Constitution?  Seriously?

A straight popular vote might SOUND Democratic, but in reality it would be closer to a socialist "ideal" due to the ease with which the vote could be manipulated.

Remember, your hero Uncle Joe is the one who said, "'It's not the people who vote that count--it's the people that count the votes."  Kinda why your other butt-buddy Soros has spent so much money trying to get Democrat Secretaries of State elected.  Of course, willful ignorance, while your stock in trade, doesn't become you very well.

Why are talking of these people as if they are related to me.


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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
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A straight popular vote might SOUND Democratic, but in reality it would be closer to a socialist "ideal" due to the ease with which the vote could be manipulated.

Do you know what socialism is? Serious question, tell me.
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2011, 12:35:08 PM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 10, 2011, 12:33:38 PM
Do you know what socialism is? Serious question, tell me.

Socialism is when the government owns the means of production.
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2011, 12:44:34 PM »
Quote from: JohnGalt on June 10, 2011, 12:35:08 PM
Socialism is when the government owns the means of production.

More specificly the workers but, yeah thats a pretty accurate definition.
So what does the popular vote have to do with the socialist "ideal"?
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2011, 12:46:50 PM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 10, 2011, 12:44:34 PM
More specificly the workers but, yeah thats a pretty accurate definition.
So what does the popular vote have to do with the socialist "ideal"?

A popular vote would allow the elections to be decided by the urban areas.  The large cities tend to be much more socialist, and people there are much more dependent on government for services and less self reliant than people in more rural areas.  Just the sort of voters that the Dumbocrats want deciding who is in power.
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Re: Tea Party opposes effort to institute national popular vote
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2011, 05:21:00 PM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 10, 2011, 12:44:34 PM
More specificly the workers but, yeah thats a pretty accurate definition...

Until the workers realize the government owns them.
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