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Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« on: June 19, 2009, 07:20:56 AM »
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Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

The Senate unanimously passed a resolution yesterday apologizing for slavery, making way for a joint congressional resolution and the latest attempt by the federal government to take responsibility for 2 1/2 centuries of slavery.

"You wonder why we didn't do it 100 years ago,"  Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), lead sponsor of the resolution, said after the unanimous-consent vote. "It is important to have a collective response to a collective injustice."

The Senate's apology follows a similar apology passed last year by the House. One key difference is that the Senate version explicitly deals with the long-simmering issue of whether slavery descendants are entitled to reparations, saying that the resolution cannot be used in support of claims for restitution. The House is expected to revisit the issue next week to conform its resolution to the Senate version.

Harkin, who called the Senate's vote an "important and significant milestone," said he wanted the resolution passed yesterday to closely coincide with Juneteenth, a holiday first celebrated by former slaves to mark their emancipation.



Ok, I apologize for all the slaves I have owned.

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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2009, 08:14:00 AM »
My personal apology will be forthcoming as soon as any slaves I used to own step forward.

Waiting.


Waiting.



Hey now, I'm not going to hold my breath while I'm waiting.

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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2009, 10:07:11 AM »
It is precisely this type of warm 'n fuzzy bullshit that makes me see red.

But as long as they (the Congress) are wasting our time and resources on silly shit like this, they can't be spending all that much time on truly dangerous plans, like Lord Zero's Massive Welfare for Misfits, Lazies, and Ne'er-Do-Wells.

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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2009, 10:10:59 AM »
Can monetary restitution be far behind?
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2009, 10:19:25 AM »
Can monetary restitution be far behind?

The article says that the Senate version specifically excludes reparations, unlike the House version. But that the House is expected to convene next week to waste more time to adopt the Senate version.

Magnificent. These politicians are truly stunning in their drive and determination to waste time on silly-assed sentiments such as "It is the sense of the House that...." and addressing horseshit that went by the wayside with the 13th Amendment.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2009, 10:22:00 AM »
I actually support this because I think it makes some feel better and might encourage some healing. However, I can't help but wonder where the apology to the Indians is and other minorities done wrong in this country.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2009, 10:24:25 AM »
I actually support this because I think it makes some feel better and might encourage some healing. However, I can't help but wonder where the apology to the Indians is and other minorities done wrong in this country.

Who? Who does it make feel better? Do you know anyone that was a slave?

It's a buncha bullshit. That's all. I will personally give 40 acres of my inheritance, along with a ****ing mule I purchase, to ANYONE who can prove they were a slave in this country.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2009, 10:26:44 AM »
I actually support this because I think it makes some feel better and might encourage some healing. However, I can't help but wonder where the apology to the Indians is and other minorities done wrong in this country.

That's precisely the point. Where does it end?

Do we have to apologize to the Inuits for giving them snowmobiles and creating global warming such that their igloos melt?

Do we have to apologize to the United Mine Workers because in our zest for coal, we've managed to kill 2,746 mine workers due to collapsing tunnels?

Do we have to apologize to the apologists because we can't find enough to apologize for?

This kind of bullshit is designed to do NOTHING but make a certain class of people "feel good." The last time I checked, it isn't the job of the U.S. Congress to make ANY class of people "feel good."

This is straightahead politics at its worst - it does nothing, solves nothing, but some people wind up "feeling good."

**** that.  :censored:
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2009, 10:31:59 AM »
Who? Who does it make feel better? Do you know anyone that was a slave?

It's a buncha bullshit. That's all. I will personally give 40 acres of my inheritance, along with a ****ing mule I purchase, to ANYONE who can prove they were a slave in this country.

People who were descendents of slaves? I've spoken to black people who weren't a part of particular situations, and they said it would make them feel better just to hear the words "I'm sorry." 

FWIW, I'm more in favor of giving minorities who don't have a job the training they need, along with other ways to help the ones of today.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2009, 10:37:53 AM »
That's precisely the point. Where does it end?

Do we have to apologize to the Inuits for giving them snowmobiles and creating global warming such that their igloos melt?

Do we have to apologize to the United Mine Workers because in our zest for coal, we've managed to kill 2,746 mine workers due to collapsing tunnels?

Do we have to apologize to the apologists because we can't find enough to apologize for?

This kind of bullshit is designed to do NOTHING but make a certain class of people "feel good." The last time I checked, it isn't the job of the U.S. Congress to make ANY class of people "feel good."

This is straightahead politics at its worst - it does nothing, solves nothing, but some people wind up "feeling good."

**** that.  :censored:

I still want an apology for the US government killing a third of my people (Cherokee Indians) in the Trail of Tears. Instead, the guy behind it was put on a dollar. Actually, I don't want an apology, but my point stands.

And even though I'm Catholic, I want an apology from the Catholics. I know they did some of my Protestant Irish ancestors wrong.

Forget the past. I want an apology from Governor Perdue for attacking teachers the way she does.

Oh, and I want to apologize to everybody here because my British ancestors were probably pricks to your ancestors. lol.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2009, 11:09:19 AM »
People who were descendents of slaves? I've spoken to black people who weren't a part of particular situations, and they said it would make them feel better just to hear the words "I'm sorry." 

If they need someone to tell them "I'm sorry" for something that never even happened to'em, they need to see a shrink. 

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FWIW, I'm more in favor of giving minorities who don't have a job the training they need, along with other ways to help the ones of today.

WTF? It's this type of thinking that is the definitive term "racism". It was the liberals who lowered standards after integration because they didn't think blacks could compete. It's this type of thinking that is holding them down right f'n now. Giving them training? What are they, f'n incompetent 5 year olds who can't make it without whitey's help?
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2009, 11:10:35 AM »
I still want an apology for the US government killing a third of my people (Cherokee Indians) in the Trail of Tears. Instead, the guy behind it was put on a dollar. Actually, I don't want an apology, but my point stands.

And even though I'm Catholic, I want an apology from the Catholics. I know they did some of my Protestant Irish ancestors wrong.

Forget the past. I want an apology from Governor Perdue for attacking teachers the way she does.

Oh, and I want to apologize to everybody here because my British ancestors were probably pricks to your ancestors. lol.

I'm Scottish, Irish, and Cherokee. They can keep their ****in' apology. I'm 36.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2009, 11:24:03 AM »
I was gonna say, nobody from "da gub'mint" trained me and put me in the job I'm in now.  Yes, I served and got a start, but what I did with that from the time I left until today is purely of my own initiative, not sitting on my ass waiting for someone to hand it to me.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2009, 11:30:10 AM »
People who were descendents of slaves? I've spoken to black people who weren't a part of particular situations, and they said it would make them feel better just to hear the words "I'm sorry." 

FWIW, I'm more in favor of giving minorities who don't have a job the training they need, along with other ways to help the ones of today.
Then those people need to get a ****in life. Racism will never end until people get over the "past" slavery didn't happen to anyone alive today.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2009, 11:51:12 AM »
I'm Scottish, Irish, and Cherokee. They can keep their ****in' apology. I'm 36.

Irish? Now I know where your temper comes from. lol.


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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2009, 11:55:48 AM »
I actually support this because I think it makes some feel better and might encourage some healing. However, I can't help but wonder where the apology to the Indians is and other minorities done wrong in this country.
People need to be healed because their grandfather was oned by someone else's grandfather?  WTH?
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2009, 11:57:24 AM »
If they need someone to tell them "I'm sorry" for something that never even happened to'em, they need to see a shrink. 

WTF? It's this type of thinking that is the definitive term "racism". It was the liberals who lowered standards after integration because they didn't think blacks could compete. It's this type of thinking that is holding them down right f'n now. Giving them training? What are they, f'n incompetent 5 year olds who can't make it without whitey's help?

Jesse Helms favored it.

http://www.jessehelmscenter.org/jessehelms/fictionortruth.asp#fic2

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In any case, I actually favor doing this for people who are poor. It's just that I know there are a lot of people who aren't white who are poor. The poverty level for blacks is actually very high. People who were born poor (no matter what color they are) have put up with a society always telling them they can't be anything more than what they are now. I think we should put in place more programs telling them they can be more.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2009, 11:59:34 AM »
People who were descendents of slaves? I've spoken to black people who weren't a part of particular situations, and they said it would make them feel better just to hear the words "I'm sorry." 
What are the chances liberals will make all us conservatives feel better by saying they're sorry?   :whatever:
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Being a minority is a requirement then?  Seems mighty racist/sexist of you.

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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2009, 12:01:37 PM »
Jesse Helms favored it.

http://www.jessehelmscenter.org/jessehelms/fictionortruth.asp#fic2

In any case, I actually favor doing this for people who are poor. It's just that I know there are a lot of people who aren't white who are poor. The poverty level for blacks is actually very high. People who were born poor (no matter what color they are) have put up with a society always telling them they can't be anything more than what they are now. I think we should put in place more programs telling them they can be more.
We need to get rid of programs that do just the opposite.  NAACP, UNCF, LULAC, and a huge chunk of the government would be a good start.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2009, 12:02:00 PM »
I think this is a waste of time. Reparations can't be far behind. Also, what was left unaddressed are the black people that owned black slaves. (YES, it DID happen!!)

[sarcasm]When do us white people get reparations from the Romans, Muslims, and other whites who enslaved our ancestors?? [/sarcasm]
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2009, 12:04:28 PM »
I suppose Obama will be due 1/2 of an apology.   :rotf:
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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2009, 12:28:41 PM »
Jesse Helms favored it.

http://www.jessehelmscenter.org/jessehelms/fictionortruth.asp#fic2

In any case, I actually favor doing this for people who are poor. It's just that I know there are a lot of people who aren't white who are poor. The poverty level for blacks is actually very high. People who were born poor (no matter what color they are) have put up with a society always telling them they can't be anything more than what they are now. I think we should put in place more programs telling them they can be more.

Who the **** cares what Jesse Helms favored? Over here on the conservative side of the aisle, we're individualists. We don't need someone to tell us how we think. Probably why we can't form rallies as well as the left.
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Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2009, 12:55:56 PM »
Who the **** cares what Jesse Helms favored? Over here on the conservative side of the aisle, we're individualists. We don't need someone to tell us how we think. Probably why we can't form rallies as well as the left.

Depends on which conservatives we're discussing as to how well they form rallies.
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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2009, 05:23:45 PM »
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People who were descendents of slaves? I've spoken to black people who weren't a part of particular situations, and they said it would make them feel better just to hear the words "I'm sorry."

Sure they will... as long as it comes with a check.
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« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2009, 05:25:13 PM »
I still want an apology for the US government killing a third of my people (Cherokee Indians) in the Trail of Tears. Instead, the guy behind it was put on a dollar. Actually, I don't want an apology, but my point stands.

And even though I'm Catholic, I want an apology from the Catholics. I know they did some of my Protestant Irish ancestors wrong.

Forget the past. I want an apology from Governor Perdue for attacking teachers the way she does.

Oh, and I want to apologize to everybody here because my British ancestors were probably pricks to your ancestors. lol.

Not to worry; my ancestors killed most of yours.  LOL.
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