Law would ban smoking in cars with kids inside

[CactusCarlos]

http://www.komotv.com/news/13958692.html

By KOMO Staff
Watch the story OLYMPIA -- A law being proposed to state legislators would ban smoking in a car if there are children inside.

State Representative Shay Schual-Berke compares it to drunk driving, saying you're injuring your children for life if you smoke with them in your car.

"Did you know that the poisons from secondhand smoke, which we know cause cancer in adults; we know cause asthma and bronchitis in children and adults, is also associated with sudden infant death syndrome?" she said. "I've seen people smoking and I've watched their children in the backseat coughing."

Some are all for the ban, including Christina Porter, who says she'd never smoke with kids inside.

"No, not in a million years; that's one of my biggest pet peeves," she said. "Who else is going to protect the children if the parents aren't going to do that themselves? It's no different than saying we can't smoke in a restaurant or a bar."

Others say it's an invasion of privacy.

"I really do not believe that a government should be insisting on laws like that. It's just a little intrusive now, definitely," said parent Bryan Bailon.

Schual-Berke says you wouldn't get pulled over just for smoking while your kids are in the car. But you could face roughly a $100 fine if you're caught after you're pulled over for something else. She says the law is needed to protect children.

Several states already banned smoking in cars with children, including California and Alabama. Supporters of a ban here say 27 other states are considering a similar ban.

[djones520]

I'd support it.

People can claim all they want there their is not "concrete" proof that second hand smoke isn't harmful.  What about breathing smoke isn't harmful?

[Rebel]

I'd support it.

People can claim all they want there their is not "concrete" proof that second hand smoke isn't harmful.  What about breathing smoke isn't harmful?

You want the government monitoring what you're feeding your children? Same f'n thing.

[Lauri]

ya know... as a kid who grew up riding around in cars filled with smoke... i dont mind this law so much.

i wish it was around when we were growing up. i hated that smell first thing in the morning...

and my dad died of lung cancer... so... yeah, i think its ok.

[Rebel]

ya know... as a kid who grew up riding around in cars filled with smoke... i dont mind this law so much.

i wish it was around when we were growing up. i hated that smell first thing in the morning...

and my dad died of lung cancer... so... yeah, i think its ok.

Do you have emphysema? Not trying to start an argument or anything, but my father and uncle also grew up with a mother that smoked in the car. One is a smoker, my father is not. My father also has no respiratory illnesses. The government isn't in the business of raising kids. If it's child abuse, it should be researched, documented, and implemented. As of now, the government is trying to get involved because it's a nuisance. They can't add health. If they can, show me the research.

....and yes, it is the same thing as the government regulating how you feed your children because "they" know what's healthy.

[Lauri]

ya know... as a kid who grew up riding around in cars filled with smoke... i dont mind this law so much.

i wish it was around when we were growing up. i hated that smell first thing in the morning...

and my dad died of lung cancer... so... yeah, i think its ok.

Do you have emphysema? Not trying to start an argument or anything, but my father and uncle also grew up with a mother that smoked in the car. One is a smoker, my father is not. My father also has no respiratory illnesses. The government isn't in the business of raising kids. If it's child abuse, it should be researched, documented, and implemented. As of now, the government is trying to get involved because it's a nuisance. They can't add health. If they can, show me the research.

....and yes, it is the same thing as the government regulating how you feed your children because "they" know what's healthy.

i cant breathe anywhere else when im with a parent who smokes in the car and in our home... im not mad at my dad, but i hated the smell and it was gross.

food doesnt just come at me with no way to avoid it, if im not hungry... smoke is different, i cant get away from it.

and yes, we have all sorts of regulations and laws that protect us from ourselves. and its mostly cause dumbasses dont know to protect themselves. some idiot just sued the city of new york for not allowing him to jump from some tall building.

his defense was: there was no sign up there that said, "no jumping" .. so, he's going to get some money for being a dumbass. then they will make a law about jumping from tall stuff.

[Rebel]

I guess I just hate to see the government get involved in parenting period. Keep in mind, I have no problem prosecuting the hell out of some scumbag who beats his/her kids. ....and that is beats, not whips. I had my ass whipped several times, sometimes BAD. I deserved every one of'em. (I'm sure some of you enjoy hearing that  )

As for me, I smoke. ....but I don't smoke in the home and, personally, don't care for the smell myself.

[Lauri]

I guess I just hate to see the government get involved in parenting period. Keep in mind, I have no problem prosecuting the hell out of some scumbag who beats his/her kids. ....and that is beats, not whips. I had my ass whipped several times, sometimes BAD. I deserved every one of'em. (I'm sure some of you enjoy hearing that  )

As for me, I smoke. ....but I don't smoke in the home and, personally, don't care for the smell myself.

im not telling people not to smoke... just let the kiddos breathe in their own home. we dont let people do meth in their homes cause it affects everyone around them.

its the same thing here... anything airborn ought to have a few restrictions on it.

but thats just me.. i have sensitive smell since my last pregnancy.. i think i just associate it with being uncomfortable.. and death.

[djones520]

I'd support it.

People can claim all they want there their is not "concrete" proof that second hand smoke isn't harmful.  What about breathing smoke isn't harmful?

You want the government monitoring what you're feeding your children? Same f'n thing.

So the government shouldn't tell you not to feed cyanide to your kids?  There's a differance between eating Trans Fats and putting your kids into an enclosed environment with a toxic atmosphere.

[Rebel]

So the government shouldn't tell you not to feed cyanide to your kids?  There's a differance between eating Trans Fats and putting your kids into an enclosed environment with a toxic atmosphere.

Cyanide is a poison. Show me an unbiased study that second-hand smoke causes death. 

Don't be irrational. The straw man only works on birds.

[djones520]

So the government shouldn't tell you not to feed cyanide to your kids?  There's a differance between eating Trans Fats and putting your kids into an enclosed environment with a toxic atmosphere.

Cyanide is a poison. Show me an unbiased study that second-hand smoke causes death. 

Don't be irrational. The straw man only works on birds.

So your saying you find nothing wrong with kids breathing in smoke, when they have no say in the matter?

[Rebel]

So your saying you find nothing wrong with kids breathing in smoke, when they have no say in the matter?

No, but the states should do something about it, not the federal government.

[djones520]

So your saying you find nothing wrong with kids breathing in smoke, when they have no say in the matter?

No, but the states should do something about it, not the federal government.

Check the story again boss.  This is about the Washington State Legislature making the decision.  And it also talks about 27 other states who are looking at the topic right now as well.  Not the Federal Government.

[Rebel]

Check the story again boss.  This is about the Washington State Legislature making the decision.  And it also talks about 27 other states who are looking at the topic right now as well.  Not the Federal Government.

My mistake then. If so, and it's in their constitution, they're within they're rights. I will now bow out of this with my tail between my legs. 

[Freeper]

I'd support it.

People can claim all they want there their is not "concrete" proof that second hand smoke isn't harmful.  What about breathing smoke isn't harmful?

You want the government monitoring what you're feeding your children? Same f'n thing.

I dunno I kind of agree with the slippery slope argument that you are presenting I also think kids should be protected.

[Freeper]

So your saying you find nothing wrong with kids breathing in smoke, when they have no say in the matter?

No, but the states should do something about it, not the federal government.

Check the story again boss.  This is about the Washington State Legislature making the decision.  And it also talks about 27 other states who are looking at the topic right now as well.  Not the Federal Government.

This will probably catch on and become fed law before too long.

[djones520]

So your saying you find nothing wrong with kids breathing in smoke, when they have no say in the matter?

No, but the states should do something about it, not the federal government.

Check the story again boss.  This is about the Washington State Legislature making the decision.  And it also talks about 27 other states who are looking at the topic right now as well.  Not the Federal Government.

This will probably catch on and become fed law before too long.

Doubt it.  Maybe if Hillary or Obama take office, but I doubt a Republican would waste time with something that the majority of the States are already enacting.  I would expect them to mandate something like Jessica's Law before this.

[Attero Dominatus]

I second Rebel's opinion. This is nanny-state bullshit. Plus this could not be enforced on any wide scale unless somehow the authorities could watch the inside of every single vehicle 24/7.

[Freeper]

So your saying you find nothing wrong with kids breathing in smoke, when they have no say in the matter?

No, but the states should do something about it, not the federal government.

Check the story again boss.  This is about the Washington State Legislature making the decision.  And it also talks about 27 other states who are looking at the topic right now as well.  Not the Federal Government.

This will probably catch on and become fed law before too long.

Doubt it.  Maybe if Hillary or Obama take office, but I doubt a Republican would waste time with something that the majority of the States are already enacting.  I would expect them to mandate something like Jessica's Law before this.

Well the way the repukes are going I have complete faith that they would try it. Sorry I'm just cynical today. 

[Freeper]

I second Rebel's opinion. This is nanny-state bullshit. Plus this could not be enforced on any wide scale unless somehow the authorities could watch every single vehicle 24/7.

I would suppose enforcing it would be pretty much the same way they enforce seatbelt laws now. Cop sees it he pulls you over.

[Attero Dominatus]

So your saying you find nothing wrong with kids breathing in smoke, when they have no say in the matter?

No, but the states should do something about it, not the federal government.

Check the story again boss.  This is about the Washington State Legislature making the decision.  And it also talks about 27 other states who are looking at the topic right now as well.  Not the Federal Government.

This will probably catch on and become fed law before too long.

I would not be surprised with a party of socialists on one side and a party of statist RINOs on the other.

[Attero Dominatus]

I second Rebel's opinion. This is nanny-state bullshit. Plus this could not be enforced on any wide scale unless somehow the authorities could watch every single vehicle 24/7.

I would suppose enforcing it would be pretty much the same way they enforce seatbelt laws now. Cop sees it he pulls you over.

Yep. Smokers will probably just put out their cigarettes if they see a cop car to minimise their chances of getting caught.

[Freeper]

I second Rebel's opinion. This is nanny-state bullshit. Plus this could not be enforced on any wide scale unless somehow the authorities could watch every single vehicle 24/7.

I would suppose enforcing it would be pretty much the same way they enforce seatbelt laws now. Cop sees it he pulls you over.

Yep. Smokers will probably just put out their cigarettes if they see a cop car to minimise their chances of getting caught.

Like people throw on their seatbelts when they see a cop now. 

[MASHLover]

Where does it stop?????

When I smoked (I quit a few months ago) I did NOT smoke in the car with my kids, we did NOT smoke in the house and we did not need a damn law for us to do this. 

My issue isnt with what the law intends to do, my issue is with the law itself.  Just one more notch in the nanny state government that conservatives are supposed to be against. 

[Attero Dominatus]

Just one more notch in the nanny state government that conservatives are supposed to be against. 

Yep. All the statists needs to say is "its for the cchhhiiillleddreeen" and tons of people get on board with whatever new stupid and useless law they they want to pass.