The MAGA crowd is living in a totally different universe from the rest of world

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Dr. Jack (455 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214357987

The MAGA crowd is living in a totally different universe from the rest of world

I like to lurk on right wing forums just to keep tabs on whatever nonsense the right is bitching about today. I find human behaviour to be fascinating so I can't help but take a peek at what the ultra right wingers are doing and saying.

Their grip on reality is typically quite tenuous but usually they are talking at least in part about the same things as the real world but typically with their own deluded spin on things. But lately I have noticed that it's like they are living in a totally different universe from the rest of us. I'm not sure what the breaking point was exactly, although I suspect it was a combo of the RNC and first debate not providing the major Trump comeback they were expecting. Instead of accepting that Trump's reelection is going down in flames, they have since crafted an entirely different reality. Here are some highlights of you're interested:

First, you need to understand that the polls are 100% wrong. Polls on the election, polls on how people feel about various issues, polls about either of the two candidates, all fake. Not just wrong but made up entirely by evil liberal media forces to make Trump look bad.

Second, 2016 has an almost mythological status where Trump minimally out performing his polls (by less than 1 point overall and not unusual in the slightest) had become Trump came back from impossible odds, made up a double digit deficit in the final few days of 2016, and that literally no one thought he would win.

Third, Americans don't care about coronavirus. Only fringe liberals care and again all to make Trump look bad. The vast, vast majority of Americans couldn't care less about coronavirus.

Forth, the economy is in amazing shape (look at the stock market!) and again most Americans are super happy with the state of the US economy.

Finally, the real issues Americans care about are: Crime in Democratic run cities, "cancel culture", and of course, the greatest threat to America, Hunter Biden's emails. You might have thought the NY Post "bombshell" had fizzled out like a week and a half ago and that no one cares. Wrong! According to Breitbart and The Daily Caller, this is the greatest political scandal in American history. While most mainstream news either never touched the story and even more mainstream conservative outlets have largely moved on since the whole thing seems too difficult to believe and even if true, people don't care. But that's only if you don't visit far right, quasi neo Nazi "news" sites. The claims on those sites about what's on Rudy Giuliani's....I mean Hunter Biden's laptop is become more and more extreme. Massive loans and bribes to Hunter and Joe from pretty much every country and group that the right hates "China, Ukraine, Iran" and of course you can't have a right wing conspiracy theory without vast claims of child pornography and sex slaves.


To summarize here is what the MAGA crowd is currently thinking: all of the polls are fake, coronavirus isn't real, Hunter Biden's emails are the biggest issue to Americans and constitute a scandal so horrifying and vast that the Democratic party is likely going to be wiped out, and Trump is going to win an historic landslide reelection. This includes Trump winning states like California, New York, and Illinois by large margins. Essentially the polls are off nationally by 30-40 points. Trump will likely win with 60ish percent of the vote nationally and Biden will be in prison before the end of the year.


Now I need a stiff drink and a shower. Excuse me for a bit.

 

Thomas Hurt (8,120 posts)

3. Governance through the sympathetic magic of christofascist ideology. Magical thinking.

[hillneck]

Hey Dr. Jackass,
Come on over and let’s have a discussion.   

[ADsOutburst]

Finally, the real issues Americans care about are: Crime in Democratic run cities, "cancel culture", and of course, the greatest threat to America, Hunter Biden's emails. You might have thought the NY Post "bombshell" had fizzled out like a week and a half ago and that no one cares.

So, have you stopped caring about potential blackmail, or are you just being obtuse?

DU lives in a totally different universe than the rest of the world. Here are some of the highlights, if you're interested:

They believe:

1. That Trump won in 2016 because of Russian propaganda and that the current e-mail scandal is Russian propaganda, spread through a tabloid media outlet.

2. That Trump and his supporters think coronavirus is a hoax.

3. That Trump refuses to condemn white supremacy and that white supremacists are an extremely pervasive problem.

4. That the corporate media doesn't favor democrats, that they do real journalism, and that they fact check Trump fairly and accurately.

5. That Trump destroyed the economy.

6. That Trump supporters live in an echo chamber.

7. That Trump's 'secret' Chinese bank account is a bigger deal than the Biden emails.

I could go on...

[SVPete]

tl;dr.

In the real world I learned in 2015 that the MSM were and would continue to systematically lie about things Trump said and did. It just took fact-checking MSM claims regarding a few Trump speeches in the context of decades of MSM partisanship.

In the real world I learned in 2016 that there would be no time in a Presidential election cycle that opinion pollsters would reflect anything close to reality. Whether their 2016 polls used jiggered samples or could not find something close to a realistic sample (probably both), the polls that predicted President Hillary were very wrong.

In the real world I realized in late January this year that what became known as Covid-19 would be politicized. Over the ensuing 9 months or so I have spent a man-day or two finding and compiling the US and China timelines linked below. The former gives 40 pages of context in which Trump acted, Trump's MANY actions, the early undermining by Dems, and the milestones that flowed from Trump's actions (including his own treatment by Regeneron's REGN-COV2). The China timeline is 9 pages of China's and WHO's shenanigans and lies that cost the world a month or two of preparation for and opportunity to somewhat limit Covid-19.

In the real world I know that, while OhBummer!Don'tCare didn't take away my health plan - unlike millions of others - the major changes it forced in my employer's health plan cost me $1000-$2000 a year for 3 or 4 years in significantly increased "employee contributions". The "Affordable" and "Care" in "ACA" are lies: it isn't; Obama and Biden don't.

[USA4ME]

This from the same idiots who still believe 9/11 was an “inside job”. 

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[SVPete]

This from the same idiots who still believe 9/11 was an “inside job”. 

How many of them still believe Reagan interfered in Carter's negotiations with Iran?

[Wineslob]

Same BS as the "Reaganomics never actually worked" garbage they still spew.

[FiddyBeowulf]

So, have you stopped caring about potential blackmail, or are you just being obtuse?

DU lives in a totally different universe than the rest of the world. Here are some of the highlights, if you're interested:

They believe:

1. That Trump won in 2016 because of Russian propaganda and that the current e-mail scandal is Russian propaganda, spread through a tabloid media outlet.

2. That Trump and his supporters think coronavirus is a hoax.

3. That Trump refuses to condemn white supremacy and that white supremacists are an extremely pervasive problem.

4. That the corporate media doesn't favor democrats, that they do real journalism, and that they fact check Trump fairly and accurately.

5. That Trump destroyed the economy.

6. That Trump supporters live in an echo chamber.

7. That Trump's 'secret' Chinese bank account is a bigger deal than the Biden emails.

I could go on...

The latest is that there a double for Melania that goes with him on campaign trips. 

[jukin]

THe DUmbass DUchebag is correct.  Our universe = reality and the universe they live in is a drug and stupidity induced psychosis.


Speaking of Shit Midas Care and fake republicans....

[Ausonius]

So, have you stopped caring about potential blackmail, or are you just being obtuse?

DU lives in a totally different universe than the rest of the world. Here are some of the highlights, if you're interested:

They believe:

1. That Trump won in 2016 because of Russian propaganda and that the current e-mail scandal is Russian propaganda, spread through a tabloid media outlet.

2. That Trump and his supporters think coronavirus is a hoax.

3. That Trump refuses to condemn white supremacy and that white supremacists are an extremely pervasive problem.

4. That the corporate media doesn't favor democrats, that they do real journalism, and that they fact check Trump fairly and accurately.

5. That Trump destroyed the economy.

6. That Trump supporters live in an echo chamber.

7. That Trump's 'secret' Chinese bank account is a bigger deal than the Biden emails.

I could go on...

As David Mamet wrote, in order to be a liberal, you must "pretend not to know things."

In passing, a former student of mine - a 30-something Catholic of mixed race with a wife of European descent - attended the TRUMP Michigan rally today in Lansing, and wrote to me that c. "100,00 people were there!  I think those polls showing Biden winning Michigan even by a little are not right!   

[Ralph Wiggum]

This from the same idiots who still believe 9/11 was an “inside job”. 

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Happy you posted that and a bit ironic you brought it up.  Been thinking about posting about a recent experience with one of those people.

After my weekly gig in the past few weeks, was chatting with a few of the regulars.  One lady (who is very nice, intelligent, a regular participant, but a raging moonbat) opined that there are "millions of white supremacists and QAnon" people that are infesting society everywhere.  Sipped my beer and quietly laughed to myself.  Then I said "Julie, there are idiots on each political extreme.  The small bitter fringe that still believe that 9/11 was MIHOP or LIHOP and orchestrated by the Bush administration who are the far, far left completely outnumber any few weirdo white supremacists."

She sort of agreed with the 9/11 comparison, but still insisted there were tons of QAnon people and Nazi's everywhere.

Not reaching for a bouncy, as there was no applause, conversion and certainly no cops jumping out of bushes.  Just my little adventures with a liberal.