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Should a US President of any Party be able to declare an American citizen
« on: February 26, 2008, 11:55:50 AM »
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Should a US President of any Party be able to declare an American citizen
   
an Enemy Combatant while that person is living within the USA and has committed no known crime; and in doing so remove all Constitutional rights granted all Americans. If the answer is no then Bush* should be held accountable for doing so. To me this is his highest crime. To arbitrarily and single handedly remove a US Citizen's Constitutional Rights without any form of trial or redress. This is tyranny IMO. Bush* did this and no one seems to feel he did anything wrong..

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Where is this tyranny you're talking about? *crickets*

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6. key words being "supposed to be"
   
Ask Joseph Padilla what his "inalienable rights" are...
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10. So he could name Obama or Hillary as an illegal enemy combatant
   
days before the election.
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Re: Should a US President of any Party be able to declare an American citizen
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2008, 12:39:16 PM »
Sorry but if you are planning terrorist attacks against US citizens then you lose your rights, better luck next time Padilla...
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Re: Should a US President of any Party be able to declare an American citizen
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2008, 12:47:57 PM »
If he could charge the domestic enemies of the USA the entire democratic party would be in jail.
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Re: Should a US President of any Party be able to declare an American citizen
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2008, 12:59:33 PM »
Quote from: Bondai on February 26, 2008, 12:39:16 PM
Sorry but if you are planning terrorist attacks against US citizens then you lose your rights, better luck next time Padilla...

Too bad we didn't do that to Lindh and ship his ass off to Camp X-Ray
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Re: Should a US President of any Party be able to declare an American citizen
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2008, 01:28:05 PM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on February 26, 2008, 12:47:57 PM
If he could charge the domestic enemies of the USA the entire democratic party would be in jail.


Two notable exceptions:  Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.
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Re: Should a US President of any Party be able to declare an American citizen
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2008, 01:49:04 PM »
Quote from: Muddyemms on February 26, 2008, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: freedumb2003 on February 26, 2008, 12:47:57 PM
If he could charge the domestic enemies of the USA the entire democratic party would be in jail.


Two notable exceptions:  Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.

Isn't Lieberman an independent now?  But  you are right on Zell.  There may even be 1 or 2 others.  But the rest of them, starting with Pelosi and the 2 presidential candidates, are traitors.

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Re: Should a US President of any Party be able to declare an American citizen
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2008, 02:31:01 PM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on February 26, 2008, 01:49:04 PM
Quote from: Muddyemms on February 26, 2008, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: freedumb2003 on February 26, 2008, 12:47:57 PM
If he could charge the domestic enemies of the USA the entire democratic party would be in jail.


Two notable exceptions:  Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.

Isn't Lieberman an independent now?  But  you are right on Zell.  There may even be 1 or 2 others.  But the rest of them, starting with Pelosi and the 2 presidential candidates, are traitors.



I included Lieberman because he used to be a Dem, and on most issues, he's right with them.
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Re: Should a US President of any Party be able to declare an American citizen
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2008, 05:30:58 PM »
Yes, you DUmasses a president IS allowed to declare a US citizen an enemy combatant, i.e. George Washington calling out federal troops against the Whiskey  Rebellion. If a president is allowed to do it vs domestic tax proresters all the moreso is he allowed to do so against someone seeking to engage in unlawful acts of war against the US in the name of a foreign power.

What is the check and balance?

Simple. The president issues an order naming a specific person and a specific reason for his actions. If that order proves to be unfounded or worse malicious than the president's name is inextricably linked to that action making him susceptible to the wrath of the people and their representatives.

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