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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BamaMoose on June 03, 2011, 11:18:00 PM
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So....Du'er OneGrassRoot set up a website called Wishadoo to help people in need. Her noble intention was to allow people to ask for financial assistance, or other help, anonomously and other people to provide assistance. Unfortunately, she advertised it all over Skin island. Needless to say her website has a bunch of DUmmies telling their SOB stories and a minimum of wealth distribution. It was only a matter of time before a DUmmie of note broke out their virtual coffe cup and cardboard sign and plopped down on a street corner in her little world.
Wishlist » BILLS
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Help with bills
I have three bills that I just can't get under control. One is trying to finish paying the co-pay to the hospital. One is financial aide for school and the other one is medical bills for labs since the "network hospital and doctor" sent labs out of network.
I was in the hospital several times last year and early this year. As a result, I have used up all of my sick days. I have an incurable disease and have to have chemo every 6 weeks. I have to take a day or a 1/2 day on chemo days which costs my check anywhere from 100 to 300 each time I have to take off. It seems that when I start to think that I will have an extra 100 or two to make payments, I get so sick I have to use a day and go further into deduct.
Additionally, I often have to go to work sick since if I call in it is an automatic deduct of 300 dollars each time.
I am trying to pay off 3 bills that would ease my finances AND my emotional stress which in turn will help my disease.
$ 288.90 is the last of the hospital co-pay it was 3,000.00
$ 1400.00 Financial aide (student loan that is way behind)
$ 460.00 Lab work bill for out of network labs of which I had no control
If a miracle happens and I can get help with these lingering bills, I will pay it forward as much as I can.
Posted On: October 17, 2010
Posted By:demtenjeep
Location: United States
» Kansas
» Wichita
http://www.wishadoo.org/wishlist/view/help-with-bills/ (http://www.wishadoo.org/wishlist/view/help-with-bills/)
After bragging on her expensive jewelry, handbags, electronics and vacations. After telling everyone about her 100K a year household income. She comes begging for help to (primarily) cover her college loans. Interestingly enough, she didn’t advertise her plight on DU. But, being one of the top 5 or 6 dumbest people on the internet she did post her tale of woe on another DUer’s site. Perhaps her new nickname should be Scamela.
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Pam Dawson is even stupider than we thought she was. It's all getting reported to her boss, just for laughs. :rotf:
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You know, I didn't even have to look at the name on the bottom of the request.
The first time I ran into a misspelled word, I knew right away who it was.
"aide"
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She's begging for help to pay off what 2% of her annual salary could take care of. Wow.
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A little over two thousand bucks, for a person who claims to make $300 per day off the Wichita suckers..er, I mean taxpayers? A $288.90 hospital bill? Sounds like an insurmountable debt to me. Of course, she already scams food from a food bank.
And if anyone is thinking about sending their kid to Wichita State University, check out these examples of writing by someone who claims to have a M.Ed. from that school:
financial aide for school
$ 1400.00 Financial aide (student loan that is way behind)
Is anyone surprised her daughter got out of Dodge the day after her 18th birthday?
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$ 288.90 is the last of the hospital co-pay it was 3,000.00
$ 1400.00 Financial aide (student loan that is way behind)
$ 460.00 Lab work bill for out of network labs of which I had no control
This total equals $2148.90
The cruise ship Allure of the Seas is the newest and largest of Royal Caribbean's cruise ships. The Allure is sailing out of Florida now. During the summer months (when school is out), seven day cruises with a balcony start at $1199 per person. Here is the link. (http://www.royalcaribbean.com/findacruise/search/vacationSearchResult.do?actionType=&promoType=&location=&portOfCall=&eventSource=date&pageType=SR&dest=&date=201107&date=201108&state=NA&port=&duration=&price=&includeAdjascentPorts=Y&cruiseType=CO&ship=AL&userPreferences=N&selectedCabinClass=B&sortBy=1&exp=false#%2Ffindacruise%2Fsearch%2FvacationSearchResult.do%3FactionType%3D%26promoType%3D%26location%3D%26portOfCall%3D%26eventSource%3Ddate%26pageType%3DSR%26dest%3D%26date%3D201106%26date%3D201107%26state%3DNA%26port%3D%26duration%3D%26price%3D%26includeAdjascentPorts%3DY%26cruiseType%3DCO%26ship%3DAL%26userPreferences%3DN%26selectedCabinClass%3DB%26sortBy%3D1%26exp%3Dfalse)
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From your link in the OP.
The listing you are looking for either does not exist or has been removed.
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From your link in the OP.
I tried the google cache and found it. cache (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1cxDdrYY_tAJ:www.wishadoo.org/wishlist/view/help-with-bills/+demtenjeep+site:wishadoo.org&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com)
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What a piece of shit she is.
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This "Wishadoo" would be hilarious if it weren't so sad. It's like a Make-A-Wish Foundation for moonbat losers. In fact, I'm sure that's where the "wish" part came from. So I say, if Pam can hit them with a simple-minded scam, more power to her. The problem for Pam is that the chance "Wishadoo" could ever raise $2000 is very remote.
If you can read their moonbat mission statement without laughing, and then explain what it is they do, well, you're more perceptive than I'll ever be.
OUR MISSION:
WISHADOO! is a social visionary enterprise imbued with the core values of integrity, respect, and compassion; dedicated to cooperation and collaboration; committed to supporting the positive evolution of Humanity.
Wishadoo! provides a framework with tools to:
1. Connect people who share these values;
2. Transform our daily experience to be one guided by these values;
3. Foster innovation and creativity inspired by these values;
4. Initiate and support projects focused on Our Common Good;
5. Nurture Grassroots Community Philanthropy.
Individuals, organizations and businesses are invited to join Wishadoo! and align with these core principles.
Together, we're creating a New World.
It's like a bad parody of the democrat party platform, except they left out queers and abortion.
You could say that sending a check to Pam Dawson would support "the positive evolution of Humanity", I guess..
They probably attracted Pam's attention by adopting her policy of random capitalization.
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Someone should put in a wishadoo for $10 to indict Rove.
Also, never name your "foundation" after anything that can be tied to a gas station car wash:
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/ignitethefire65/washaroo.jpg)
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A little over two thousand bucks, for a person who claims to make $300 per day off the Wichita suckers..er, I mean taxpayers? A $288.90 hospital bill? Sounds like an insurmountable debt to me. Of course, she already scams food from a food bank.
And if anyone is thinking about sending their kid to Wichita State University, check out these examples of writing by someone who claims to have a M.Ed. from that school:
Is anyone surprised her daughter got out of Dodge the day after her 18th birthday?
I'm surprised she actually wasted the 24 hours to get out after. I wonder what held her there?
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Looks like she had another go-around back in October?
WISHLIST » DENTAL
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DENTAL HELP
I have been really sick almost to the point of losing my colon. In trying to deal with that I have almost hit the wall on my health insurance.
This illness and subsequent treatments have done a number on my teeth. I have 9 upper teeth left and 4 of those nine have serious issues. The other ones are starting to crumble as well.
I need help to remove my remaining upper teeth and then to get an upper dental plate.
Since the illness is taking all our money and I am soon to hit "the wall" there is no money for my teeth.
Posted On:
October 17, 2010
Posted By:
demtenjeep
User Activity:
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Location:
United States
» Kansas
» Wichita
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xCrNVh8Yi8sJ:www.wishadoo.org/wishlist/view/dental-help/+demtenjeep+dental+help+wishadoo&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
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Looks like she had another go-around back in October?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xCrNVh8Yi8sJ:www.wishadoo.org/wishlist/view/dental-help/+demtenjeep+dental+help+wishadoo&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
October 17, 2010 is the same day as the lingering bills post. Takes balls to run two different hand-out request on the same site on the same day.
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October 17, 2010 is the same day as the lingering bills post. Takes balls to run two different hand-out request on the same site on the same day.
When your annual income is 100K.
Pam must consider herself as a charity case and everyone knows that liberals only support charity with other peoples money.
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Are we sure she's not a mole?
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When your annual income is 100K.
And that entire 100K was already coming from the pockets of Wichita taxpayers.
She and Mark were both on the public payroll.
I guess by whining on the innertube she was giving the people of the world a chance to join in.
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Pam certainly blurs the line between looter and moocher. The world will be better when she has left.
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If it weren't for bad luck, she'd have no luck at all.
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Why not just call these companies and make payment arrangements? Even if it's a small amount at first if you're consistent they'd rather have a small payment than nothing except excuses. As you get one paid off you can apply that payment amount to one of the other bills. This isn't rocket science.
Cindie
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Are we sure she's not a mole?
Yes. It was verified the school she works at. Zaba has her street address.
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Oh my Pam. You are total pond scum.
Karma will catch up to you. Count on it.
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Oh my Pam. You are total pond scum.
Karma will catch up to you. Count on it.
Well, karma is an ignorant heathen concept, but Pam's had the runs for two years, her teeth have fallen out, and Spooky died.
If there's a locust plague, she and the Egyptian pharoah will have a lot in common.
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Well, karma is an ignorant heathen concept, but Pam's had the runs for two years, her teeth have fallen out, and Spooky died.
If there's a locust plague, she and the Egyptian pharaoh will have a lot in common.
Spooky--was it as Sparky suggested (grew opposible thumbs, learned how to cycle and load the Glock, and blew its' brains out), I wonder? :???:
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She makes $50K per year:
http://www.kansas.com/2010/11/23/1601926/2010-public-salary-database.html?appSession=583220532947273&RecordID=8280&PageID=3&PrevPageID=2&cpipage=1&CPIsortType=&CPIorderBy=
greenbriar (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-17-08 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. so now, someone knows my name, and where I work and how much I make
not too much of a stretch to google that info
find my address, think I make lots of money cause the paper said so and rob me or steal my identity?
Uh, nope we don't think that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3812453&mesg_id=3812453
You are a public employee by the way, so your pay is a public record.
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-17-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. and there is the point!!! My name and exact building is now posted for all
it is all right here
www.wichitaeagle.com
Teacher
57,491.00 a year
IF that was all that was posted, I would not care...but My full legal name AND exact building is also there. That makes it scary
But Pam, you don't make 57K a year. :???:
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But Pam, you don't make 57K a year. :???:
Well, the nuts in California pay lifeguards over 100K, so the idiots in Wichita may pay an illiterate 57K to babysit for six hours a day.
I think I'd rather have one of those lifeguards teaching my kids. They're bound to be smarter than the genetically-challenged Pam Dawson.
I remember that 2008 post. It came out of the clear blue from Pam. No one at the DUmp had mentioned it. Her only purpose in making the post was to let all the unemployed, unemployable, and minimum-wage DUmpmonkeys know that she's making 57K for 180 6-hour days. It was just like the photos she used to post all the time. Every one had a fake Coach purse in the background.
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Well, the nuts in California pay lifeguards over 100K, so the idiots in Wichita may pay an illiterate 57K to babysit for six hours a day.
I think I'd rather have one of those lifeguards teaching my kids. They're bound to be smarter than the genetically-challenged Pam Dawson.
I remember that 2008 post. It came out of the clear blue from Pam. No one at the DUmp had mentioned it. Her only purpose in making the post was to let all the unemployed, unemployable, and minimum-wage DUmpmonkeys know that she's making 57K for 180 6-hour days. It was just like the photos she used to post all the time. Every one had a fake Coach purse in the background.
I just googled her for the first time, what kind of idiot uses her street name as a screen name?
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I just googled her for the first time, what kind of idiot uses her street name as a screen name?
The same kind of idiot who asks if you can phone in an advance order to the food bank.
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Well, the nuts in California pay lifeguards over 100K, so the idiots in Wichita may pay an illiterate 57K to babysit for six hours a day.
I think I'd rather have one of those lifeguards teaching my kids. They're bound to be smarter than the genetically-challenged Pam Dawson.
I remember that 2008 post. It came out of the clear blue from Pam. No one at the DUmp had mentioned it. Her only purpose in making the post was to let all the unemployed, unemployable, and minimum-wage DUmpmonkeys know that she's making 57K for 180 6-hour days. It was just like the photos she used to post all the time. Every one had a fake Coach purse in the background.
She only makes $50K though. Unless of course she got a demotion.
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She only makes $50K though. Unless of course she got a demotion.
She's union. They can cut her job but they can't cut her pay.
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I just googled her for the first time, what kind of idiot uses her street name as a screen name?
The same type that posts up photobucket pics all over the DUmp that has her real name as the user name on the account. Remember, she's a Sooper Jeanyus and all. ::)
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Hi :)
I'm the founder of Wishadoo! and saw this thread yesterday. I come in peace. ;)
I'm posting here since this is where Wishadoo! is mentioned, though I think there is at least one older thread where it's been dissed.
Trust me, I get it. The initial reaction to Wishadoo can be nauseated and off-putting to people of all political and ideological stripes, not just conservatives. In my experience, nearly anything that attempts to be positive and GET SOMETHING DONE, rather than just bitch and moan, is a rarity online. I love the Internet, but most messageboards I'm familiar with have devolved into a cesspool of whining and dissing other messageboards. That's the case across the political spectrum.
I wrote the board admin yesterday, asking if it would be okay if I join; I've copied and pasted what I wrote, as a means of introduction here:
"I grew up with a father (whom I adore, now passed) whose idol was Archie Bunker, so I've heard all the "treehugger, moonbat" yada yada disses from those with conservative views my entire life. LOL. I can take it.
My family is largely comprised of Glenn Beck fans, and as you guys may have noticed, Glenn Beck dissed Wishadoo on his show in the fall.
Yes, I personally identify as a progressive but I've always hated the labels and misuse of words and BS all the way around that happens on all sides.
I think we're at a point where we can't afford -- on any level -- to be so divided as a country, so I often post at different sites, asking where we can find common ground.
Working together as human beings can't be a bad thing. Connecting one on one -- using personal responsibility -- is one of the goals at Wishadoo. Yes there are people who will take advantage (and they can usually be found out rather quickly 'cause they post EVERYWHERE online, asking for the same thing, repeatedly), but that's why we need to take personal responsibility to do whatever it is we need to be comfortable if we decide to help.
But at least Wishadoo provides the space to do that without having to go through agencies and other red tape-oriented organizations.
However, Wishadoo is about much more than just the Wishlist. It's about gathering to brainstorm and get things done, and try to find some common ground to see if we can agree on what needs to be done and find a way to do it ourselves, as individuals, not relying solely on legislative means.
Anyway, I'd really like the opportunity to respectfully engage about things -- not politics -- but just life, with your members, if they'd be open to the same from me. Wishadoo wasn't created to be political or religious.
I am indeed on a mission to make words like compassion and empathy and community and cooperation GOOD things, not something people shy away from because they don't want to be dissed by conservatives. I want to get beyond all the stupid labels and misuse of our language and try to get something DONE that helps people help themselves. I haven't had much more luck in this regard at progressive sites than I have at conservative sites.
I don't think conservative is a bad word any more than I do progressive.
Discussing things is the first step, so I'd be grateful if I had the opportunity to do so with your members, unless I'd be too much of disturbance in the force, in your opinion. ;) "
I haven't read here much, to be honest. And, no doubt there are some members here with whom I could find common ground, and others who interact in a way that I have zero desire to engage. Again, that's no different than any other site, though I definitely find those (usually in the smaller groups) with whom I share a similar worldview at progressive sites. No doubt about that. Plus, trolls don't tend to go into the sub-groups. ;)
Today is really hectic for me, so I probably should have waited until later to even post this since I may not be able to respond to any replies, but I have to act on things right away or I forget easily. Old age, don'tcha know. ;)
The main things I'd really like some insight about from an anonymous conservative messageboard perspective, is why so many tend to loathe the words Compassion, Empathy, Cooperation, Community, etc. Again, I understand the knee-jerk reaction that has been fed by the likes of Limbaugh and Company -- and if you really want to vent and spout all the liberal disses, have at it -- but I'm asking if you could please sit with it beyond that initial reaction. Are they REALLY such bad words? They don't have to be. We can be smart and practical and strong and still be compassionate, want to help our local communities and cooperate more to get things done, for us to see how to help ourselves more effectively. Honestly, I don't see how we can turn things around unless we do. So, my hope is to get beyond all the labels that take us back to junior high and pit us all against one another into nasty cliques.
I can hope....(oh yeah, that's another word that's dissed universally these days -- progressives, conservatives, everyone in between. Hard to say much of anything that won't be demeaned, making the whole gist of one's post missed because of the use of a word or two. I think it's pathetic all the way around.)
Thanks for reading. :)
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Well, welcome, madam; a good read.
There's plenty here besides just the DUmpster; conservativecave is a very diverse and, uh, interesting group of people; one just has to get used to us.
But a caveat, madam--franksolich and a few others are on a rather enthusiastdic anti-primitive rampage at the moment--so best to ignore us until we're in a better mood.
But everybody else, especially in the other forums, is as nice as strawberries-and-cream.
And so again, welcome.
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I must add; new members don't see all of the forums here.
After one gets about 100 posts, the place abruptly doubles.
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Working together as human beings can't be a bad thing. Connecting one on one -- using personal responsibility -- is one of the goals at Wishadoo.
This is in direct conflict with the current regime. Your goal is for the betterment of man for humanities sake whereas the obama regime will sacrifice mankind for the betterment of the party/state.
Today's democrat party is not the democrat party that Archie Bunker detested. It's much worse.
All that aside, I guess, hey!
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Gotcha. Thanks for the reply and the info. I'll try to get more familiar with the other areas (non-political!) soon.
Have a good one. :)
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This is in direct conflict with the current regime. Your goal is for the betterment of man for humanities sake whereas the obama regime will sacrifice mankind for the betterment of the party/state.
Today's democrat party is not the democrat party that Archie Bunker detested. It's much worse.
All that aside, I guess, hey!
Hi, Tucker. I'm not a fan of ANY political party in the US. I basically feel DC is bought and sold to the highest bidder. I don't think we have a democracy any more, nor a democratic republic. It's government to the highest bidder. That's my personal view.
It's a given we're going to disagree about politics, no doubt about that, and I don't have the energy to spar about that, to be honest. I've been self-employed, having worked no less than 60 hours a week for the last 18 years. Never been on ANY type of assistance, never even received unemployment in my life. No benefits. Nothing.
Totally self-sufficient. The complete antithesis of what many conservatives see progressives/liberals as. So, I choose my battles wisely 'cause I just don't have the energy for uselessness.
I've come to realize (mainly from interacting with extreme right-wing and libertarian family members) that we want completely different things, and talking about politics is a waste of energy. So, I'll stay out of political discussion here and find the other forums to chat about stuff and see where there may be common ground as it pertains to our everyday lives.
:)
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What I'd like to know, given the information given about one of the solicitations on your site and how it conflicts with the reality this person is very generous in sharing about her financial status, is do you take any measures to ensure that the people actively SOLICITING donations are genuine about their pleas or situations? There have been cases where people have gotten into trouble over either faking an illness or overstating their need financially. I would think you would want to protect a cause you feel strongly about from people who would scam it or use it to protect their own wealth from unexpected expenses(ie people who have the money or income but just don't want to use it on things like medical bills). How do you protect the people who are willing to donate from those type of users? Just curious.
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dena.
Just so you know, I don't separate the needy by political leanings. Through my mole, I have actually donated money directly to DU'ers who truly convey a need. You can tell the bullshitters from the desperate.
Damn. I think I just lost my evil conservative image.
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What I'd like to know, given the information given about one of the solicitations on your site and how it conflicts with the reality this person is very generous in sharing about her financial status, is do you take any measures to ensure that the people actively SOLICITING donations are genuine about their pleas or situations? There have been cases where people have gotten into trouble over either faking an illness or overstating their need financially. I would think you would want to protect a cause you feel strongly about from people who would scam it or use it to protect their own wealth from unexpected expenses(ie people who have the money or income but just don't want to use it on things like medical bills). How do you protect the people who are willing to donate from those type of users? Just curious.
The Wishlist aspect of Wishadoo which, again, is just one tool there) is very similar to craigslist and why it's been referred to as "a craigslist of compassion" (yes, Craig Newmark knows).
There is extensive legalese involved with such a setup, as you can imagine, and Wishadoo incorporates that. First of all, Wishadoo hasn't officially launched yet. Educating about the Wishlist -- and the aspect of personal and community (Wishadoo Community) responsibility -- will be one of the first things that is focused upon.
It's made very clear that Wishadoo doesn't screen the postings for legitimacy, but if we're informed of any lies or deceptions, that post and poster will immediately be deleted and banned. Zero tolerance policy. The thing is, we rely on the community itself to make us aware of this, as there is no way to screen every post once the site launches. And, quite frankly, doing that takes us into the same area of agencies and the red tape and screening that happens there.
Wishadoo is about personal responsibility on the part of those asking for help, AND those offering it. If someone may want to help someone but wants more information to be sure they're being honest, that's their responsibility to ask for it and come to their own conclusion. Wishadoo simply provides the platform to connect.
People are on their own from there, unless they violate terms and conditions of the site.
I have been able to spot perpetual abusers a few times in the past. They tend to post the exact same need at MANY (I mean, hundreds) of websites (who has time for that???), and they have done so over a several-year period. That's a potential abuse situation that I personally stay alerted to, even if the TOS haven't yet been violated.
Hope that answers your question. :)
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Gotcha. Thanks for the reply and the info. I'll try to get more familiar with the other areas (non-political!) soon.
Have a good one. :)
Wait, wait, wait.....
Don't go yet, madam; we need your insight.
Be an Ann Landers to franksolich, if you might, please.
If you're not familiar with the situation, you can take a "pass," but I'm hoping you're familiar with the situation.
There's a certain member of democraticunderground, a certain primitive, official name "Stinky the Clown," adopted name "the sparkling husband primitive" here, and franksolich recently re-baptized him "whatshisname."
For a few years now, franksolich has tried to carefully cultivate whatshisname, treating him nicely and all that--probably the best piece of writing I ever did was his award for #02 Top Primitive of 2010, a masterpiece.
And I've dedicated short stories to him.
You see, whatshisname reminds me a great deal of my late Uncle Lido--when my aunt married him, she was ostracized from the rest of the family, due to his, uh, Italianate derivation and all that involves. But while there were hard feelings inside, at least on the surface everyone maintained a certain formal courtesy and respect.
I only ever met him one time, when I was 8 years old, at which meeting he called me a stupid kid, possibly the stupidest kid he ever met, but as he was my uncle, I assumed he loved me anyway.
Uncle Lido could curse like a longshoreman and had a mean, violent temper, but other than that, he was okay. He had a certain elegant grace, style, and manners that those of other derivations would do well to emulate.
So I figured I would handle whatshisname the same way I handled Uncle Lido (who by the way when he died in the early 1980s, left a certain college senior a goodly stash; I had been right about his true nature; he didn't care for me, but he cared about me).
But whatshisname is someone the sort of of-Italianate-derivation I've never seen before. He's crude, he's crass, he's a disgusting discredit to those noble princes and peasants his antecedents, including his parents of sacred memory. If there's any milk of human kindness in him, it's sour.
Would you happen to know if Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends and Influence People is available in an Italian edition?
Again, if you're not acquainted with the situation, madam, or if you'd rather not find his associates Louie the Mouth-Smasher or Salvatore the Leg-Breaker at your door, you don't need to answer, but I surely hope you do.
It's so rarely we get someone from democraticunderground over here, and I'm sure many of us have lots and lots of questions.
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dena.
Just so you know, I don't separate the needy by political leanings. Through my mole, I have actually donated money directly to DU'ers who truly convey a need. You can tell the bullshitters from the desperate.
Damn. I think I just lost my evil conservative image.
LOL! I agree, Tucker. As I just wrote, you can usually tell those who are genuine versus the chronic takers. I've found that most people have a really, really hard time asking for help. I always have, that's for sure. When someone asks for help not only seemingly easily, but REPEATEDLY, and at many different sites, that's someone who likely has no interest in helping themselves, and I'm very wary of them.
What's the old adage, it's not about a hand out but a hand up. Many people through no fault of their own these days are in dire straits. They worked hard all their lives, paid their taxes, yada, yada....but the system isn't their friend. Seriously, I'm one of them. I know of what I speak.
I have zero desire for Wishadoo to be where takers suck up all the energy. I do hope to create a foundation where people can enter with an open heart and open mind (cue gag reflex), but DEFINITELY take personal responsibility for what they share there. And coming together as a community is what helps keep that in check. There are other research geeks like myself who will have a red flag raised when someone posts. All it takes is a Google search to see that same username has posted the same thing repeatedly. These same types often refuse offers of assistance or guidance other than money. Huge red flag. But each one of us can find that out on our own and choose to ignore their plea for help.
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Wait, wait, wait.....
Don't go yet, madam; we need your insight.
Be an Ann Landers to franksolich, if you might, please.
If you're not familiar with the situation, you can take a "pass," but I'm hoping you're familiar with the situation.
There's a certain member of democraticunderground, a certain primitive, official name "Stinky the Clown," adopted name "the sparkling husband primitive" here, and franksolich recently re-baptized him "whatshisname."
For a few years now, franksolich has tried to carefully cultivate whatshisname, treating him nicely and all that--probably the best piece of writing I ever did was his award for #02 Top Primitive of 2010, a masterpiece.
And I've dedicated short stories to him.
You see, whatshisname reminds me a great deal of my late Uncle Lido--when my aunt married him, she was ostracized from the rest of the family, due to his, uh, Italianate derivation and all that involves. But while there were hard feelings inside, at least on the surface everyone maintained a certain formal courtesy and respect.
I only ever met him one time, when I was 8 years old, at which meeting he called me a stupid kid, possibly the stupidest kid he ever met, but as he was my uncle, I assumed he loved me anyway.
Uncle Lido could curse like a longshoreman and had a mean, violent temper, but other than that, he was okay. He had a certain elegant grace, style, and manners that those of other derivations would do well to emulate.
So I figured I would handle whatshisname the same way I handled Uncle Lido (who by the way when he died in the early 1980s, left a certain college senior a goodly stash; I had been right about his true nature; he didn't care for me, but he cared about me).
But whatshisname is someone the sort of of-Italianate-derivation I've never seen before. He's crude, he's crass, he's a disgusting discredit to those noble princes and peasants his antecedents, including his parents of sacred memory. If there's any milk of human kindness in him, it's sour.
Would you happen to know if Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends and Influence People is available in an Italian edition?
Again, if you're not acquainted with the situation, madam, or if you'd rather not find his associates Louie the Mouth-Smasher or Salvatore the Leg-Breaker at your door, you don't need to answer, but I surely hope you do.
It's so rarely we get someone from democraticunderground over here, and I'm sure many of us have lots and lots of questions.
LOL! Sorry....can't help you. And I'm definitely not here to bash DU, Skinner or members, nor any other specific site. I'll leave that up to the professionals. ;)
BTW, I tend to swear like a longshoreman as well, so I would have liked your uncle, no doubt.
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Wait, wait, wait.....
Don't go yet, madam; we need your insight.
Be an Ann Landers to franksolich, if you might, please.
If you're not familiar with the situation, you can take a "pass," but I'm hoping you're familiar with the situation.
There's a certain member of democraticunderground, a certain primitive, official name "Stinky the Clown," adopted name "the sparkling husband primitive" here, and franksolich recently re-baptized him "whatshisname."
For a few years now, franksolich has tried to carefully cultivate whatshisname, treating him nicely and all that--probably the best piece of writing I ever did was his award for #02 Top Primitive of 2010, a masterpiece.
And I've dedicated short stories to him.
You see, whatshisname reminds me a great deal of my late Uncle Lido--when my aunt married him, she was ostracized from the rest of the family, due to his, uh, Italianate derivation and all that involves. But while there were hard feelings inside, at least on the surface everyone maintained a certain formal courtesy and respect.
I only ever met him one time, when I was 8 years old, at which meeting he called me a stupid kid, possibly the stupidest kid he ever met, but as he was my uncle, I assumed he loved me anyway.
Uncle Lido could curse like a longshoreman and had a mean, violent temper, but other than that, he was okay. He had a certain elegant grace, style, and manners that those of other derivations would do well to emulate.
So I figured I would handle whatshisname the same way I handled Uncle Lido (who by the way when he died in the early 1980s, left a certain college senior a goodly stash; I had been right about his true nature; he didn't care for me, but he cared about me).
But whatshisname is someone the sort of of-Italianate-derivation I've never seen before. He's crude, he's crass, he's a disgusting discredit to those noble princes and peasants his antecedents, including his parents of sacred memory. If there's any milk of human kindness in him, it's sour.
Would you happen to know if Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends and Influence People is available in an Italian edition?
Again, if you're not acquainted with the situation, madam, or if you'd rather not find his associates Louie the Mouth-Smasher or Salvatore the Leg-Breaker at your door, you don't need to answer, but I surely hope you do.
It's so rarely we get someone from democraticunderground over here, and I'm sure many of us have lots and lots of questions.
Coach, IIRC, How To Win Friends And Influence People has been translated into a whole bunch of languages, and I'm about 100% sure that Italian is one of them.
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LOL! Sorry....can't help you. And I'm definitely not here to bash DU, Skinner or members, nor any other specific site. I'll leave that up to the professionals. ;)
BTW, I tend to swear like a longshoreman as well, so I would have liked your uncle, no doubt.
Thank you, madam.
I was hoping for a different sort of answer, but expecting the answer you gave.
Carry on; you're a good soul.
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What a load of touchy-feely horse shit.
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What a load of touchy-feely horse shit.
Dad? Uncle Lou? Is that you speaking from beyond the grave through this CC member?
:tongue:
I respect your opinion, though no doubt that's also a load of touchy-feely horseshit.
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What a load of touchy-feely horse shit.
Ha :rotf:
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Welcome Dena!
BTW, many of us here wishadoo on our own, conservatives are actually very giving people contrary to what the left says about us.
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One thing I'd love to understand is what scares people so much about "touchy-feely horseshit"?
I mean, I know it's not a symbol of STRENGTH in some people's minds, but I think that's bullshit.
I think people who diss anything I've talked about here are afraid and try to hide that fear behind that kind of nonsense.
I think the same thing of liberals online who trash anything and everything conservatives say.
People are scared shitless but no one is being honest about it, and no one has the courage to figure out exactly what they're afraid of.
Of course, if you think I'm full of shit and don't mean what I say, that's a different story. Then it would be touch-feely horseshit wrapped up in bullshit lies.
If that's the case, I don't blame you, 'cause you don't know me at all.
But if someone means what they say, I don't see why touchy-feely horseshit disturbs so many. And since when is personal responsibility and helping people help themselves rather than rely on the government NOT a conservative value, unless that's just a bunch of hypocritical emptiness that has been spewed forth by so many. Way too much hypocrisy from the left, right and center over the last few decades, imho.
People have lied to one another so long and lost sight of what they really mean when they say anything that they start to believe their own BS.
I think that's the gist of what I'd like to know from you guys, from anyone who would like to engage a liberal heathen. ;) Maybe a new thread would be helpful? If this is a messageboard that just enjoys having pissing matches, so be it. That's what most messageboards are about. I personally don't have time for that.
If there's anyone here who wants to talk about anything I've written about, I'm game. But since I'm not going to trash any other websites or members, nor talk politics, I may be useless. And I would completely understand that and disappear with no hard feelings.
:)
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Welcome Dena!
BTW, many of us here wishadoo on our own, conservatives are actually very giving people contrary to what the left says about us.
Hi, Ballygrl. I don't doubt that at all. And I agree that being conservative does NOT mean someone isn't compassionate or giving. I hear you. I'm not locked into those stereotypes at all -- at least I try not to be. ;)
Many people don't have a support system wherever they are; they don't live near family or friends, don't belong to a church, work from home....whatever. Wishadoo was, in part, created to help people who feel isolated connect. But obviously helping one another comes in many forms, and people are already doing it in many different ways.
:)
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One thing I'd love to understand is what scares people so much about "touchy-feely horseshit"?
Oh, not all of us have a problem with it, at least in its proper place. That place NOT being in formulating foreign or domestic national, tax law and transfer payments, or any other governmental actions that reach out and touch (Or put the touch on) everyone whether they want to play or not, with the sovereign's power to forcibly compel obedience. Some just have a certain level of crustiness to our public faces, which may or may not be like the real person, you know.
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unless that's just a bunch of hypocritical emptiness
I have to give some credit to moonbats who accurately recognize their philosophy.
I may be useless
And yet another thumbs up!
There's no "fear" of touchy-feely liberal horse shit.
Moonbats will never understand the contempt of normal people for their empty socialist claptrap.
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Oh, not all of us have a problem with it, at least in its proper place. That place NOT being in formulating foreign or domestic national, tax law and transfer payments, or any other governmental actions that reach out and touch (Or put the touch on) everyone whether they want to play or not, with the sovereign's power to forcibly compel obedience. Some just have a certain level of crustiness to our public faces, which may or may not be like the real person, you know.
Understood, and I agree. What you wrote here is how I feel about many social conservative policies.
I think in order for me to interact here in any meaningful way, it needs to be in a section that doesn't have a political focus.
I'm not referring to politics at all here with what I've shared thus far. In fact, my intention in being here is to try to discuss alternatives to helping this country, not via legislative means.
Maybe if you guys can view me as an entrepreneur/small business person who has never received (nor do I anticipate ever receiving) any aid or assistance of any sort from the government -- nor have I tried, btw -- rather than a progressive, that would help? I do have opinions about politics and policies and don't feel everyone getting assistance is a freeloader (though I do think corporate welfare falls into that category many times, and there are instances of individuals playing the system to the hilt; no doubt about it). I just personally have never applied nor received any assistance of any type and have always worked to pay the bills and come from a very blue-collar background.
BTW, the main people I know who have played the system to the hilt are family members who use all the Archie Bunker derogatory slams against welfare queens and racial stereotypes and such, yet THEY are the ones who have applied for food stamps and every type of assistance possible.
That's my personal experience. It's hypocritical bullshit, and I'll call it out every time I see it, in family and strangers alike.
I have zero negative opinions about anyone here just because you identify as conservative. Beyond that, I know nothing about anyone. So I'm kind of starting with a clean slate, but no doubt I'll form opinions soon enough based on personal interactions.
I have a thick skin, so I can take all the typical liberal/progressive/treehugger/hippie-do-gooder/welfare queen blah blah blah bashing that is thrown at me by some just because that's all they seem to know to do. Like I said, I grew up with it. I won't devolve into the same though, so I'll just ignore that stuff from now on.
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I have to give some credit to moonbats who accurately recognize their philosophy.
And yet another thumbs up!
There's no "fear" of touchy-feely liberal horse shit.
Moonbats will never understand the contempt of normal people for their empty socialist claptrap.
GOBUCKS, you're not making any sense to me. I'm talking about personal responsibility and brainstorming ways to NOT involve the government in order to help our society, so where's the moonbat socialist/nazi/fascist/communist hypocritical spew going on there? (Yeah, I made an assumption and threw in some of the other 'isms'). ;)
Have to get ready for my child's baccalaureate service. Have a good day, everyone.
:)
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If anyone has any interest in discussing the things I've written about so far (touchy-feely non-political, personal responsibility stuff), when I can -- maybe tomorrow -- I'll start a thread in General Discussion, if that's okay, rather than continue here. Not sure if a newbie can start a new thread.
Anyway, what I would like to discuss has nothing to do with this DU-focused forum.
Wow, I just tried to find a waving emoticon and you have QUITE the selection!!! LOL
Bye. :)
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a not uncommon scam scheme out there on the internet. Have seen a number of variants. Just an uptodate version of the hand lettered 'will work for food' signs at street corners 30 years ago.
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a not uncommon scam scheme out there on the internet. Have seen a number of variants. Just an uptodate version of the hand lettered 'will work for food' signs at street corners 30 years ago.
Yeah I am thinking the same thing.
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30 years ago? I see 'em every winter here at the local interstate off-ramp. There's lots of stories around town of folks offering work and being rudely treated for bringing up such a silly idea. :rotf:
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Ever since they made panhandling illegal in the city, there are more of them selling those "newspapers" than any number of 'Will Work For Food' bums I used to see.
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BTW, many of us here wishadoo on our own, conservatives are actually very giving people contrary to what the left says about us.
Useful and efficient assistance delivered to the truly needy with love? You monster!
Only an enormous anonymous government program involving tons of paperwork, regulations, and spending can help the 99% of American who are destitute and oppressed by those terrible awful under-taxed rich folks.
/sarcasm
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Dena,
I didn't start this thread with any ill will towards you or your efforts on Wishadoo. I believe you have good intentions, but are a bit too trusting of some of your fellow posters on DU. As Pam clearly shows, every charity is going to encounter some amount of fraud. I wish you nothing but the best of luck with your efforts. Unfortunately, it's people like Pam that make your idealistic vision unachievable. As long as you've got scammers in the system, people are going to be reluctant to help and that ultimately hurts those that are truly in need.
If the point needs to made any clearer:
demtenjeep (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-02-11 09:20 PM
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Hubby just gifted me with a Kindle....your experiences with it?
suggestions,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9703565 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9703565)
This is a fine example of someone who is so desperate they need to be begging for donations on your website.
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Good find, BamaMoose.
This woman is begging for money which could be paid off in six months or less with a good payment plan. Karma is a bitch, Pam. I hope it screws you long and hard.
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Dena,
I didn't start this thread with any ill will towards you or your efforts on Wishadoo. I believe you have good intentions, but are a bit too trusting of some of your fellow posters on DU. As Pam clearly shows, every charity is going to encounter some amount of fraud. I wish you nothing but the best of luck with your efforts. Unfortunately, it's people like Pam that make your idealistic vision unachievable. As long as you've got scammers in the system, people are going to be reluctant to help and that ultimately hurts those that are truly in need.
If the point needs to made any clearer:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9703565 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9703565)
This is a fine example of someone who is so desperate they need to be begging for donations on your website.
Hi, BamaMoose. I know you didn't mean anything negative toward me or Wishadoo. To be honest, I don't know the DUer in question, nor have I read through specifics here. You guys seem to know MUCH more about other DUers than I do. But I'm scanning over that stuff and responding to Wishadoo-related comments.
I joined in here to engage about my intention with Wishadoo, since I'm aware it's referred to as a moonbat/fascist/communist/socialist/Nazi enterprise in some circles. LOL
Wishadoo isn't a charity (though I understand you didn't necessarily meant that literally), and it's about so much more than the Wishlist. But, as for the Wishlist, it's where people can connect directly about what they need and have to offer, and my most sincere hope is that it WON'T always be about money. We can help one another in many different ways. As I wrote upthread, it's up to the community to be responsible if they choose to help someone. They can require whatever assurance they need to feel confident whatever assistance they're offering is going to be used in the way they intend.
It's a personal matter between two people; personal responsibility comes into play on both sides. If someone is a scammer, once more people gather and the community grows, the faster that is determined. Even now given the little activity thus far, people contact those who have posted on the Wishlist directly and, if they don't get answers they need to feel comfortable helping, no harm, no foul.
I understand your concern and I'm far from naive about the realities of scammers. I've been through several versions of Wishadoo and encountered that immediately, and have taken necessary precautions.
I agree with Einstein's quote, something to the effect: "I love Humanity...it's people I can't stand." ;)
I know there are asshats, liars and greedy/selfish people out there. They're everywhere.
I also believe that most people are good at heart, and that, given more of an opportunity, we can help one another. Again, my hope is that we can come up with ways beyond money to do so. I realize sometimes money is the only answer for predicaments, but we can get creative and come up with different ways of solving problems.
That takes a leap of faith, and I haven't seen much of that anywhere, quite frankly. It has nothing to do with political ideology. It's just the way things are right now. We see everyone else as "the other," rather than another human being.
I may die trying to shift things in my own little way, or I may say f*ck it one day and just give up. Who knows? For today, I'll keep trying.
:)
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Wouldn't the Kindle money be better spent paying off those bills?
Cindie
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Wouldn't the Kindle money be better spent paying off those bills?
Cindie
Let "her" touch those things for once ~ Celine Dion
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Wouldn't the Kindle money be better spent paying off those bills?
Cindie
Nooo!!! Chumps are for paying the bills. The Kindle money and all the money to be spent loading it is Pammy's money, for Pammy, to benefit Pammy and Pammy alone.
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I have to say, after reading through most of her nearly-endless website, that I fully support Wishadoo, and hope they succeed beyond their wildest dreams.
You can read forever on that site, and you will find not one shred, not one speck, not one iota of an actionable statement. There is simply nothing there but an huge mass of feelgood blather and anonymous pleas for money, most of which are better written than Pam's.
"Wishadoo! is a personal and community awakening, a social evolution."
"We're creating a new world, together."
"Wishadoo! is a one-stop grassroots gateway to connect, dream, innovate,
truly integrate and build Cooperative, Compassionate Communities."
Seriously.
They forgot to include "Change you can believe in", and "Yes, we can."
It's a community organizer's dream.
Anyway, that urban philosopher Rodney King trumped this outfit a dozen times over by simply saying, "Can't we all just get along?"
And Rodney didn't need a hundred pages of internet claptrap.
But I support them 110%. This is exactly the kind of emptyheaded feelgood rhetoric that attracts moonbats like flies to honey, and I'm sure the good people at Wishadoo are reaping the benefits of that moonbat weakness. Whenever grifters like Bev Harris or the Andyscam conspirators show up, all they have to do is shake the DUmp tree, and money comes pattering down, sometimes in torrents.
It seems to me that anytime a swindler can fleece the DUmpmonkeys, that's a good thing. Decent and civilized people will never fall for it, and every moonbat penny they send to that Paypal account is another penny that can't be donated to a democrat politican to damage America.
Decent and civilized people will continue to donate to established charities with coherent missions, or directly to people in need, or more importantly, to their churches.
So here's a big thumbs up to all the compassionate causes that prey on DUmp democrats.
I wonder if they paid for that Kindle?
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I have to say, after reading through most of her nearly-endless website, that I fully support Wishadoo, and hope they succeed beyond their wildest dreams.
You can read forever on that site, and you will find not one shred, not one speck, not one iota of an actionable statement. There is simply nothing there but an huge mass of feelgood blather and anonymous pleas for money, most of which are better written than Pam's.
"Wishadoo! is a personal and community awakening, a social evolution."
"We're creating a new world, together."
"Wishadoo! is a one-stop grassroots gateway to connect, dream, innovate,
truly integrate and build Cooperative, Compassionate Communities."
Seriously.
They forgot to include "Change you can believe in", and "Yes, we can."
It's a community organizer's dream.
Anyway, that urban philosopher Rodney King trumped this outfit a dozen times over by simply saying, "Can't we all just get along?"
And Rodney didn't need a hundred pages of internet claptrap.
But I support them 110%. This is exactly the kind of emptyheaded feelgood rhetoric that attracts moonbats like flies to honey, and I'm sure the good people at Wishadoo are reaping the benefits of that moonbat weakness. Whenever grifters like Bev Harris or the Andyscam conspirators show up, all they have to do is shake the DUmp tree, and money comes pattering down, sometimes in torrents.
It seems to me that anytime a swindler can fleece the DUmpmonkeys, that's a good thing. Decent and civilized people will never fall for it, and every moonbat penny they send to that Paypal account is another penny that can't be donated to a democrat politican to damage America.
Decent and civilized people will continue to donate to established charities with coherent missions, or directly to people in need, or more importantly, to their churches.
So here's a big thumbs up to all the compassionate causes that prey on DUmp democrats.
I wonder if they paid for that Kindle?
I doubt you and I have much to say to one another, GOBUCKS, 'cause you're dead set on being nasty (a trait especially common to hardcore progressives and conservatives online), but I wanted to say that churches who don't want to or aren't able to have their own online community are able to create a Group at Wishadoo!, which acts as an online place for them to gather to discuss things and plan events, and they can have their own private "wishlist" to share amongst their parishioners to help one another with specific needs and offerings. Obviously most interaction takes place in real life, but a lot of planning nowadays takes place online, so having an online community is important for all types of organizations and networks.
All types of existing organizations can and are creating a Group at Wishadoo, so long as they're comfortable at a site that loudly and proudly advocates Compassion, Cooperation and Community, with no apologies.
It's free. It helps them with their own mission and they can use Wishadoo!'s tools for free.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with helping one's community, and organizing to do so. If you respond to dog whistle stuff like "community organizer" equating to being a communist or whatever, that's your problem. If those words filter out people who are determined to not like others because of labels and other things, then it serves an even greater purpose from my perspective. You have your own support network, evidently, and that's awesome. It's great when people have a support network. The reality is that many don't. Even existing networks benefit by growing, as our problems as a society grow.
Thanks to everyone for being civil here. I have a feeling there is nothing about Wishadoo or what I'm trying to do that is of interest to anyone, but if it is, I'll gladly discuss further, away from this particular forum, in your General Discussion area or whatever.
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Please, madam, I'm not being nasty. I tried to explain why I fully support your organization, and wish you boundless prosperity.
Ingenious entrepreneurs deserve our admiration and moral support.
But I understand. If you can describe a hostile reception here, it will probably increase your appeal among your constituency at the DUmp.
So feel free to characterize what I wrote as you wish, and best of luck in your fundraising from the "Compassionate Community".
Of course, being just one poster, I can't speak for all the fine people here, but I suspect you've drilled a dry hole at this site.
Some may strongly disagree with me, as usual, and others may use more welcoming words than mine, but are just as unlikely to become lucrative contacts.
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Please, madam, I'm not being nasty. I tried to explain why I fully support your organization, and wish you boundless prosperity.
Ingenious entrepreneurs deserve our admiration and moral support.
But I understand. If you can describe a hostile reception here, it will probably increase your appeal among your constituency at the DUmp.
So feel free to characterize what I wrote as you wish, and best of luck in your fundraising from the "Compassionate Community".
Of course, being just one poster, I can't speak for all the fine people here, but I suspect you've drilled a dry hole at this site.
Some may strongly disagree with me, as usual, and others may use more welcoming words than mine, but are just as unlikely to become lucrative contacts.
I suppose being nasty is in the eye of the beholder. I include extreme snark in my description of nasty.
I am a member of DU but, as I have mentioned here, you all seem to know MUCH more about DUers than I do. I work no less than 60 hours a week (in addition to time spent developing Wishadoo), so I have no time to follow members at messageboards to that degree.
I have no intention of mentioning my interactions here at DU or any other site to which I belong. It serves no purpose. I don't want to engage in website wars (seriously, I really don't understand how people have the time and energy for that).
I want to talk about what can be DONE, as citizens, as neighbors, to improve our situation by creating jobs ourselves, etc.
The only thing I was seeking in posting here was to try to understand more about the conservative mindset which tends to loathe what I am working on at Wishadoo, beyond the initial knee-jerk response, which I definitely understand. I wanted to dig deeper and see if there may be common ground.
Best of luck to you and others here, and thanks for at least entertaining my desire to have a dialogue about things I feel are of importance, though I realize they aren't to others. I'll close the door on my way out. ;)
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Please, madam, I'm not being nasty. I tried to explain why I fully support your organization, and wish you boundless prosperity.
Ingenious entrepreneurs deserve our admiration and moral support.
But I understand. If you can describe a hostile reception here, it will probably increase your appeal among your constituency at the DUmp.
So feel free to characterize what I wrote as you wish, and best of luck in your fundraising from the "Compassionate Community".
Of course, being just one poster, I can't speak for all the fine people here, but I suspect you've drilled a dry hole at this site.
Some may strongly disagree with me, as usual, and others may use more welcoming words than mine, but are just as unlikely to become lucrative contacts.
What's really hard is that it is no longer safe to donate to older, established institutions like the church because of Pam and her ilk will try to scam anything of value for their personal gain.
I would guess that the Salvation Army is safe as the SA to a DUmmy is like sunlight to Bela Pelosi Dracula.
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I suppose being nasty is in the eye of the beholder. I include extreme snark in my description of nasty.
I am a member of DU but, as I have mentioned here, you all seem to know MUCH more about DUers than I do. I work no less than 60 hours a week (in addition to time spent developing Wishadoo), so I have no time to follow members at messageboards to that degree.
I have no intention of mentioning my interactions here at DU or any other site to which I belong. It serves no purpose. I don't want to engage in website wars (seriously, I really don't understand how people have the time and energy for that).
I want to talk about what can be DONE, as citizens, as neighbors, to improve our situation by creating jobs ourselves, etc.
The only thing I was seeking in posting here was to try to understand more about the conservative mindset which tends to loathe what I am working on at Wishadoo, beyond the initial knee-jerk response, which I definitely understand. I wanted to dig deeper and see if there may be common ground.
Best of luck to you and others here, and thanks for at least entertaining my desire to have a dialogue about things I feel are of importance, though I realize they aren't to others. I'll close the door on my way out. ;)
Bye.
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I'm sure Pam is glad The Weiner went down today to take attention off her brain damage self. I bet Obama is just as glad.
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What's really hard is that it is no longer safe to donate to older, established institutions like the church because of Pam and her ilk will try to scam anything of value for their personal gain.
You need to find another church. I'll match up with anyone in the cynicism department, but I've never felt even the tiniest hint of doubt about our contributions in money and time to the church.
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At least Dena was civil.
I'll give her credit for that.
Dena, if you're still there, please note that you haven't been banned.
You are able to post your views freely here, unlike another site we all know of.
You'll catch the dickens for it, but, you won't be banned for it.
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At least Dena was civil.
I'll give her credit for that.
Yes, she was. As was Bev. And no one has met a nicer guy than Andy, unless it's franksolich,
who is the nicest guy anyone could ever hope to meet, and who isn't soliciting for donations.
Ever since the freepers killed Andy, it's been much tougher for an entrepreneur to fleece the DUmp.
It can surely be done, because, after all, they are DUmmies, but they're not the sitting ducks they once were.
Straight Story is still waiting for his skydiving trip, and Random Thoughts is still due beer and travel money,
to say nothing of many experiences.
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I do wonder if she will report her experience back to the DUmp. I doubt it.
Can't be saying anything nice about those nasty CC'rs.
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I do wonder if she will report her experience back to the DUmp. I doubt it.
Can't be saying anything nice about those nasty CC'rs.
If Skimmer found out she was here, she'd get TS'd. It's not enough that you can get the granite slab for misbehaving on the island, you can get it for visiting the undesirables(us) too.
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I do wonder if she will report her experience back to the DUmp. I doubt it.
Can't be saying anything nice about those nasty CC'rs.
If she does, Imam Skinner will issue a fatwah, and that'll be the last of dena.
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I hate LIBERALS....they are like a festering boil on the ass of society...