Dip tank is a big investment and or project! Probably not for you. For years I finished blanks with Birchwood Casey gunstock finish and a lint free rag with great success. Its a bit of a learning experience to finish wraps with varnish but guys like you could cheat and use epoxy finish since your not trying to cheat anyone but yourself!
Try the Birchwood Casey Tru-Oil. I think they even have it in a spray can now. Its indestructible! I coated a few old butt sections with it and am still using them for tomato stakes 10 years later!
Son of a bitch! I bet you can't get spar varnish either? Are there no cane rodmakers in commiefornia?
Believe it or not, bamboo can take more of a beating than those plastic sticks!
There's plenty of rod builders around here. You can get Spar Varnish (Man-O-War). Runs about $14 for an aerosol can. I decided on a Poly after reading how well it does. No fade/yellowing/flexible plus it's very tough. I fish (as you probably saw in my photos) very rocky areas where allot of climbing is involved. Rods get beat up.
Looking great!
I'm guessing it's a 9ft rod? Nice reel, are you going to try a silk line?
I have a love for bamboo rods, been fishing them and collecting them for awhile.
Cats.. I like your penta. I have a Usian 7ft 5wt, same type of action?
Looking great!
I'm guessing it's a 9ft rod? Nice reel, are you going to try a silk line?
I have a love for bamboo rods, been fishing them and collecting them for awhile.
Cats.. I like your penta. I have a Usian 7ft 5wt, same type of action?
Both the 7' rods are base on the Cattanach Sir D 7042 7 Ft 4 Wt taper that we tweaked a little by swelling the butt. Everyone that ever cast them love them. They are delicate yet can toss a 5wt 85' if your a good caster. Honestly I never had a real Uslan in my hands. I have cast rods built on his tapers and felt they broke down with a lot of line out?
Wine, LOL.. the old 9ft rods tend to be quite heavy, yet can still throw alot of line.
I was gonna mention banty rods, but figured you had gone thru all the work of restoring the whole thing it might be a insult!
Most trout rods of that era were 6wts, you might want to try one on it!
I have an old Bamboo fly rod (at least I think its old) with a real that was left in my fathers stuff when he passed (he mentioned it came from his father years before). It's in a bamboo case. I have no idea what its shape is in as I put it away and have not taken it out. The real looks like a side mounted Zebco 202 but much thinner (if that makes sense). It does not look like a typical open fly real.
If I post some pics could I get an idea about the combo? I'm curious about what it is. My father was known to tell a tale or 2 so it may have just been something he picked up at Walmart.
Post some pics of it! Especially if there are any name/numbers on it.
The reel is an "automatic", it's spring loaded so it will retrieve the line.
I have an old Bamboo fly rod (at least I think its old) with a real that was left in my fathers stuff when he passed (he mentioned it came from his father years before). It's in a bamboo case. I have no idea what its shape is in as I put it away and have not taken it out. The real looks like a side mounted Zebco 202 but much thinner (if that makes sense). It does not look like a typical open fly real.
If I post some pics could I get an idea about the combo? I'm curious about what it is. My father was known to tell a tale or 2 so it may have just been something he picked up at Walmart.
That is a spin cast reel I think not a fly reel. The rod an case are most likely Japanese. A lot of those were imported after WW2. The 2 mid sections are interesting? Not worth much me thinks.
My Grandfather was in Japan when the treaty was signed at the end of WWII. He was stationed there for about 5 years after so that may be where he got it. While it might not have a high monetary value it does have some sentimental value. I have a better idea of where it came from so that is nice. I wonder why he kept the rod and real together?
Thank you.
He may have just stored them together. The rod may actually "fish" decently, who knows?Thank you guys. I didn't care about the monetary value. I was wondering about its history. My grandfather was not exactly a talkative guy. So it's nice to know he kept something for years. I even found an old train I had. He took the locomotive apart, cleaned it, put it back together, mounted it and painted it like Casey's 009 Engine. It shows me he had a little sentiment in him.
TY for sharing. :cheersmate:
Hi Wine, I have a Heddon 14 in mint condition that I have fished a few times, a very slow rod. It the time they were sold they were marketed as a "lake" rod, what ever that means! As I understood it they were a good trolling fly rod that had very smooth action with a fish on.
Making a banty out of it will speed it up a bit, but I havent found too many bantys that dont respond to a 6wt line very well.
IE: Feather river, did you check water temps? Drys typ start coming off when it reaches 40-42d (H2O temp). Justa a FYI, most trout waters have stonefly nymphs in them year round, at least out here in the west.
I pulled the trigger ($75) on a SB 346 8 1/2 footer. "True" 5 wt. It's in "good" shape, but will need some resto. Should be fun.
Keep it up and you will will be buying lathes and dip tanks and if your not careful you'll end up with a mess like this!
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See the power cord coming down from the ceiling in the middle photo? That the heater for the dip tube that is enclosed in an anti static closet installed in my wives walk in closet in our bedroom above! This hobby can be dangerous!
I made some killer banty's with 9ft South Bends.
Water temps hit 42 for awhile today. Western March Browns are beeing seen and the fish are taking them. Skwallas are almost done and the blue wings are just starting. Mild winter is going to make for some great spring fishing!
Went up on the Feather again Yesterday. Took the SB 346. Damn, just damn. Makes my Sage 349 LL feel like a wet noodle. Amazing fly rod.
Oh no! your in trouble!
A lot of those rods had the burnt strip! That tells me they wern't even glued up from the same clum! They had the taper down though didn't they.
gonna be a busy weekend at a local spring creek. A few freinds, and friends to be will be camping and fishing together. I'll take a few cane rods for folks to try. Some say I'm just a carrier of the bamboo fever. I just want to share it with all.
I warned you! Ebay?
Ferrules are the worst fix you will encounter! A ton of issues there! If you decide your going to try. send me the old ones and I may be able to help you. I have a ton of vintage ferrules.
my sept trip to the Locsha is coming up. will be the 12 year in a row having fun with the westslope cuttys.
I picked up another John Channer built rod last week. It had been made for a friend of mine in MO, then sold to another friend in CO and last week brought to Idaho so I could try it. It worked for me! It is a 7'-6" 3wt, 2/2. This is the third Channer I have added to my quiver. Reading the serial # this rod was made in 2003. I fished it with a 4wt silk line and it handled wind , rain and 18" westslope cuttys quite well!
I now have a penchant for Granger rods, W&M's or by the man himself. Gonna see if a Granger Victory on CL is worth a shit or not.
I took the Victory out fishing this past Saturday. Damn, damn, damn. Goodwin really knew what he was doing.I'm wondering how in the world does the rod maintain flexibility after that many years.
What a pleasure to fish and it's from 1937-38. :)
I'm wondering how in the world does the rod maintain flexibility after that many years.
I know bamboo can do funny things. Just seems odd.
I don't get to handle many Granger rods. Seems availability is geographical.
You mentioned in one of my posts that you were looking for a correct thread to complete a project.
I'm guessing that would be silk thread, of a certain color.
I figure you do more restoration rather than rebuild. Am I close?
I would have thought silk, so I'm a bit surprised.
Yup! However the Stream and Lake that I need to re-do used nylon thread. W&M were the ones that went to nylon. The only issue is if I don't re-wrap the entire rod, it's tough to match the color. The thread is out there, I'm just still looking.
I would have thought silk, so I'm a bit surprised.
By "re-wrap", are you speaking of strictly ferrules or additional parts of the rod?
If you do try for pix, use a light or medium gray background.
That might accent the rod color and detail a little better.
By missing part of the one tip, I presume it's the very end.
Maybe the seller will get tired of sitting on it after a few months, and come down to earth.
Went down to the river today to see what shape it was in. Anchor ice along the edges and low flows. I could tie on a GRHEN and fish for white fish or drive an hour this weekend to a spring creek with rising trout.I can go ice fishing for crappie
Rising trout it is!
$100 is a fair offer for almost any broken rod.
Donno, he's stuck on "the reel seat is worth XXX so I want 50 bucks too much for it"
Ya, if a tip section is "down' it means it was probably broken off and a new tip-top applied. I offered $100 for it, more than I've ever paid for any Granger. The others I got were either complete with original bag and tube or in good enough shape that I didn't mind shelling out $50 for them. This one is pretty rough, but it is a somewhat rare (production numbers) model. This is the second time it's been up for sale.
$100 is a fair offer for almost any broken rod.
You went and bought it, didn't you?
Let's see the photos.
I thought for sure you jumped at it.
There will be another.
I know it's a pain, but, a picture now and then of progress would be nice to see.
We've been getting a good hatch of BWO's on the Feather River. If I have the time* I'll probably go fishing this weekend. This weather is weird, but with a rooted high over Cali, not un-expected.
I'm tieing bwos now, what size you get ?
*got relatives coming out from Floriduh and staying for a couple of days.
You have an early Montague Manitou from the late 1920's to early 30's. This Landman style twist locking reel seat was used on the first generation of Manitous, along with those Landman style hand welted ferrules. These welts tend to look like a rolled welt, but they are actually a half moon shaped piece soldered on. These often had an ornately knurled butt cap to match the sliding band. Though the reel seats changed over the years, the typical Manitou sported those Landman style ferrules throughout their production history.
Most of these early Manitous were heat treated, which gave them a rich, dark look to the cane.
Where did you find that? I new it was old as most of the rods from that era had glue problems.
Ask and ye shall receive:make sense now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resorcinol_glue
I use heat set Epon epoxy. It allows you to straighten the section and then set it in the oven. I think most makers are using it these days.That drags up a bunch of other questions.
Oh, Cats, BTW, when you try out that rod (after the freeze :tongue: ) I've found that Rio Gold works very well with the old school agate stripper guide(s). I bought some last month and it was on sale for, I think, $37.50 which is a good deal. at Cabela's (.com) The stuff is really slick, floats like crazy and casts like a dream. I think that Monty will be roughly a 4 wt.
"Old fly rod."
Crap, I thought you all dedicated an entire thread to my ex-wife!
What is the major determining factor for line weight?
Does weather or other conditions influence the choice?
Cats, ty and gorgeous fly rods!
I've never done the dipping process, so I'll have to look that up.
:cheersmate:
Your website is now bookmarked.
Love that little 7ft 4 wt. :drool:
The intermediates indicate age as back in the day they didn't have faith in the glue.
Take good, clear, close ups. Show the whole reel seat, handle and the winding check (where the rod meets the cork) from different angles so details can be seen. Same with shots of the ferrules. Any stampings?
Sounds like one of them is a casting rod.
The reel is a good, solid, one but very simple. Known to be loud (clicker)
Both rods look like Montague/Chubb, probably from the mid 20's to early 30's. The "tells' are the non serrated ferrules, reel seats, sheet cork handles and winding check.
The bigger rod is a boat rod, most likely.
The other is, of course, a plain old fly rod. Hard to tell on the fly rod what model, but the particular kind of seat can be ID'd and dated.
Your house looks very similar to mine!
Fished today with a Taylor quad, great rod. Even better with a fish on!
cats, you still making shavings?
Wine, how has that import done for the past year?
cats, you still making shavings?
Wine, how has that import done for the past year?
Picked up a little "gem" at a Antique Mall.
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No identifying marks other than 'Made in England". Best guess is it's a Heaton from the 1920's - 30's, judging from the ivory handle. Balances the Hardy rod I posted about, very nicely.
Only paid 18 bucks for it. :hyper:
(http://i.imgur.com/DmNnurq.jpg?2)That's a pretty big baitfish, what were you fishing for? :whistling:
Took the Hardy rod and the Heaton reel out for a trip this past weekend. It's a very nice combo.
:hammer:
Nice find! Stuff like that are rare as hens teeth around here.
Newest acquisition:
Late 30's to mid 40's Edwards F18 "Bristol" 8 1/2'. BTW the 18 refers to the price. These rods were the top of the line until you got into a "Edwards" marked rod. Think Quadrate.
Its in "good" condition and wont take much to restore.
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Casting an Edwards quad made me want one. I now have two from newer makers. Love um!
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Well, that didn't work well!
I cast a Edwards quad, enjoyed it to the point that I have two quads from different makers now.
Well, that didn't work well!
I cast a Edwards quad, enjoyed it to the point that I have two quads from different makers now.
Nice!
I have finally got around to wrapping the Uslan I have had for a few years. This rod is from the early 50's and impregnated. From everything I have read these rods are slow and bend down to the handle. Will fish it later this spring I hope!
Looks like you have enough to keep you busy thru the winters here!
Nice fish from those waters.
North Idaho has a lot of West Slope Cutties, great sport fish, almost all C&R.
In 2 months this thread will be 8 years old.
That BB looks great! Wasn't that Heddons top of the line rod in that era?
Do you store these in ways they are displayed, out for all to see, or do you have to keep them in boxes, stashed away until you want one of them?
Do you store these in ways they are displayed, out for all to see, or do you have to keep them in boxes, stashed away until you want one of them?
I'm married, guess.
:lmao:
Did a group camp at Farragut last weekend, would have been better off going fishing.
I like those rods! Nice that you are trying to keep them original.
I'm fishing next week at a spring creek I haven't fished in quite a few years. Reports from friends have been so-so. It will be good to get out.
The spring creek was a bust, caught more ticks then fish.
Did get my MT license, I retire at the end of this month and will spending more time in that state.
Going to go play on the St Joe for 4 days next week. As wet as Spring was the flows have finally started to settle down.
I have no vested interest in fly rods, fly fishing, or fishing in general, but I note with no small amount of pleasure that this particular thread has been ongoing since January 2013 till today.
That's great stuff and it shows the strength of longevity, patience, and just plain hey-I'm-gonna-do-what-I-do. Great job, guys! :cheersmate:
NFCDA next Thursday thru Tuesday. Flows have been dropping to good dry fly levels.
Go mid week if you can, place can be a zoo on the weekends.
Fishing access is better upstream from Avery, just about every pull out will have a trail to the water.
Found that out on the Little NF CDL River. TONS of Washington plates.
LOL, I have Washington plates! I'm about 3 miles from the state line as the crow flies.
Found that out on the Little NF CDL River. TONS of Washington plates.
One day I was trying to find a spot on the St Joe to fish, very busy weekend. I counted license plates from 17 different states. It can get busy there!
If you have the time take the road to the end at Red Ives. It's a one lane road with pullouts for the last 14 or so miles.
Was tieing flys for the up coming season until I had surgery on a trigger finger. back to it soon!
How do you like the BB? I had a chance to get one a few years back and kick myself because I didn't.
I really need to go fishing!
Another couple weeks and I may go out to see how pre runoff looks.
It's really good to see you continue this long and illuminating thread, now next to the Dumpster one of the most memorable features here on conservativecave.
It's really good to see you continue this long and illuminating thread, now next to the Dumpster one of the most memorable features here on conservativecave.
It's really good to see you continue this long and illuminating thread, now next to the Dumpster one of the most memorable features here on conservativecave.
Did you scarf it yourself?
I have a gentleman in western WA that does work like that for me.
It was nice, but not the greatest water I've ever fished. I went to Lightning Creek last Fri. near Clark Fork. Very nice, good fish andif you want to keep a few, you can. Also the dispersed camping areas are nowhere as "beat" as the Little N. Fork CDL.
I fished it with a 7.5 ' Montague Rapidan. Nice rod.
Hit the NFCDA today. Water is very low. Fished a Moonshine rod, non boo!
The fish are still there, just have to find them.
I did hike upstream in a few places, saw some water I would not have been able to get to with higher flows.