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subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« on: July 31, 2008, 10:05:49 AM »
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Oh my.

The subway cat's prowling around, to enlighten us.

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Contrary1  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-04-08 03:16 AM
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The US has the best damn medical care in the world
   
Some psych patients wait days in hospital ERs
80 percent of hospitals say they 'board' mental patients in waiting rooms

"NEW YORK - When staffers at a Brooklyn hospital spotted a middle-aged woman lying face-down on a waiting room floor last month, it hardly seemed like cause for alarm.

The sight, after all, was common in the psychiatric emergency room at Kings County Hospital Center. The unit is so routinely backed up with people waiting hours, or even days, for services that patients often spend the night nodding in chairs or sprawled in a corner.

Emergency rooms, they say, have become all-purpose dumping grounds for the mentally ill, with patients routinely marooned a day or more while health care workers try to find someone to care for them.

A survey of hundreds of U.S. hospitals released last month by the American College of Emergency Physicians found that 79 percent reported that they routinely “boarded” psychiatric patients in their waiting rooms for at least some period of time because of the unavailability of immediate services..."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25520178 /

There's other primitives at the bonfire commenting upon this sordid state of affairs, but never mind.

One goes right to an expert.

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undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-04-08 02:35 PM
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7. This is true
   
The mentally ill for the most part are treated like shit.

Even if we come to the ER with Physical injuries or pain.

We are not taken seriously,our suffering is doubted, we are assumed addicts,even when we are hurting in our bodies, we are psychiatrized regardless.

Mentally ill/injured people are the only people in this country and maybe the world that can have all our
human rights taken away based on an opinion.

Even the most basic rights can be totally stripped away from us, just because we think differently.

We can be forced to be incarcerated, forced to take drugs against our will, forced into isolation cells, forced into restraints, even if we committed no crime and are threatening no one.

What happens to the mentally ill is a crime against humanity.

One barrier to being treated and respected in the ER like other people are treated.. is STIGMA against us..

Stigma is common for the mentally ill/injured .

Stigma keeps society perpetuating and excusing this mistreatment of the mentally ill /injured and letting it continue.

Will mentally ill/injured people EVER be treated as human beings?

This standard of “danger to self or others” is not about protecting people or stopping people from hurting themselves or others, it’s about medical liability. If a psychiatrist doesn’t do something to intervene, and that patient does something, the psychiatrist is going to get his ass sued. Therefore, he is going to protect himself.

And the way to protect himself, or herself, is to lock people up against their will. ..

To be a mental patient is to be stigmatized, ostracized, socialized, patronized, psychiatrized.

To be a mental patient is to have everyone controlling your life but you. You’re watched by your shrink, your social worker, your friends, your family. And then you’re diagnosed as paranoid.

To be a mental patient is to live with the constant threat and possibility of being locked up at any time, for almost any reason.

To be a mental patient is never to be taken seriously.

To be a mental patient is to act glad when you’re sad and calm when you’re mad, and to always be “appropriate.”

To be a mental patient is to participate in stupid groups that call themselves therapy. Music isn’t music, its therapy; volleyball isn’t sport, it’s therapy; sewing is therapy; washing dishes is therapy. Even the air you breathe is therapy and that’s called “the milieu.”

To be a mental patient is not to die, even if you want to — and not cry, and not hurt, and not be scared, and not be angry, and not be vulnerable, and not to laugh too loud — because, if you do, you only prove that you are a mental patient even if you are not.

And so you become a no-thing, in a no-world, and you are not.

Why is stigma against the mentally ill/injured so rampant in this culture?? This mindless bigotry,,ignorance perpetuated everyday even on DU.

Why such fear and hate is directed at people with mental illness/injury? Why is it TOLERATED?

Calling someone a racial slur is not tolerated on DU?

So why is calling people crazy tolerated?

Sickening injustices are what the mentally different face everyday.It would shock these bigoted people if
they actually went THROUGH it.

Even in this country if you have a psych history, you are treated like a criminal by default!!

And It really pisses me off how people continually play armchair shrink, pull the mental illness/injury
card as an insult or excuse their own asshole behaviors and to de-legitimize people for speaking their minds
on DU.And everywhere else pretty much.

I see TV programs painting us as monsters and losers, I see ads denigrating us,people patronizing,and insulting us.

Always there are the insults with accusations about a persons mental state from critics of ideas they don't like.Declaring another's mental state as deteriorated by online posts alone,Board certified doctorate shrinks are not permitted to diagnose people online BTW..

Bully people go calling someone crazy loony,wacko all the time.

Bystanders are oblivious to the stigma and wounding this causes a huge amount of people.Using stigmatizing words casually to make a character smear on a person ,to socially try to impose a death sentence on them.It is a ploy to convince others to not take them seriously.This 'crazy' insult has a sting only because the stigma attached to being mentally ill/injured is very real,repeated over and over and tolerated by our culture as if it is not as hurtful and wrong as any racial or sexist slur.

I'm tired of the mentally ill/injured bashing.

I'm sick of mentally ill/injured people being lumped in with psychopaths and assholes.

Having decent treatment in the ER for the mentally ill/injured requires STIGMA against the mentally ill/injured to be STOPPED and Denounced as the cruel thing it is.We are human beings too.

It is hard to understand how one thing gets stigmatized while another thing does not without also understanding one of the important ways that stigmas get applied the process of scapegoating.

When 1 in 4 people have a diagnosis of a mental disorder it is really tragic to see such hate and slurs so commonly used as insults here,it belittles the the mentally ill/injured.

And a lot of people deal with mental illness/injury.

This is what people DO when they call us"crazy" and it is DISGUSTING and WRONG..

Okay.

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undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-04-08 04:01 PM
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15. I try..
   
But sometimes people choose to stay an asshole ,be a bigot,others just stand there,and there is nothing I can do,to shake them out of threir cage in thier heads. So much they want to be caged they attack me for letting them see a glimpse beyond thier little world..

And I do agree with you,every true person with powerful medicine gets detected, mistreated,scapegoated,labeled and locked up. There is no place for us to do what we do best..Because anything not bland and mainstream and normal,anything non-ordinary,any controversial visionary impulses, that does not agree with the current system or swallow the lie of the market & profit game and does not deny the systemic exploitation going on.. is suspect of being a Thought criminal..A.k.a..Mentally ill.

Two song clips came to me that capture this struggle..

song clips not copied and pasted here, as they're pretty stupid song clips

Sigh.

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undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-04-08 03:16 PM
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13. And
   
Mentally ill people are some of the most poor and dispised people on Earth. If it wasen't for food banks many would die,And a portion of the mentally ill are veterans.

Something has to be done, Me first types of people need to grow up and realize they are exploiters.

People need to quit fearing and learn COMPASSION and to share.

As long as profit can be made from others suffering there will be no JUSTICE or fairness in this country.

I don't give a shit about the "market". It is a big scam that creates poverty so a few at the top can own most of everything.

I care about people and their well being more than believe in ANY system.

This puts me in conflict with our sickening market based financially abusive system.

Our culture puts profit over people, systems over people, hierarchy over people and it is a bottom line driven greed fueled mess putting price tags on everything including life.

This shit needs to stop.People need to learn to care for something besides themselves and what they want..
A mixed market is still a ****ing market. The market needs to DIE.

Humanity needs to GROW UP and GROW a heart.And stop tolerating the myths psychopaths scheme up as if it was really the truth.

The market economy has proven itself to be an absolute and utter failure. Those who insist that the “market” is the best way to run a country seem to be missing one of the basic human things that human hearts do, care. Care means “to look after or to provide for” but in a market economy “care” gets in the way of profits and thus care has to be eliminated for the market to “work.” The American health care system is the prime example of this but it is true for every industry the market economists and Wall Street financiers touch.

**** Wall Street.

The conventional economist focuses on the "efficiency" of the market system, claiming that it alone can maximise the value produced by available inputs. This is quite true, but only if an objectionable
definition of "efficient" is employed. To the conventional economist, "efficient" and "productive" investments are simply those which make most profit.

Profit is the problem.

When everything is judged by how profitable it is, people suffer.

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undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-04-08 03:24 PM
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14. Yes it is!
   
Along with nutritious food,clean water,shelter,warmth,,a lifeline to call for help(phone),a public place like a town square or meeting building for associating with others,to particapate in power politically,GOOD public transportation(alot of people who died in Katrina were stranded there due to no transportation), freedom from abuse,and time to rest or for leisure.

But Me I'd go much farther than that.

I would END the scam called profit forever.

This idea will scare people because they cannot imagine life without getting something for nothing,that greed and Taker mentality is hurting us all.

I dunno.  I think the subway cat having, and holding down, a regular job would cure much of what ails her.
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 10:10:20 AM »
So, it rails against the lack of treatment mentally ill patients get,

then, whe doctors try to help it, it rails against getting help.


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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 10:21:35 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 31, 2008, 10:05:49 AM
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I dunno.  I think the subway cat having, and holding down, a regular job would cure much of what ails her.

Yeah,...but what will it do to the mental health of those that have to work with her?
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 10:59:14 AM »
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To be a mental patient is to live with the constant threat and possibility of being locked up at any time, for almost any reason.

Then in another thread they will all curse and rail against President Reagan for throwing mental patients out of hospitals.

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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
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11. HEALTH CARE IS A HUMAN RIGHT ...damn it all !

 
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 undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)       Fri Jul-04-08 03:24 PM
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14. Yes it is!

 Along with nutritious food,clean water,shelter,warmth,,a lifeline to call for help(phone),a public place like a town square or meeting building for associating with others,to particapate in power politically,GOOD public transportation(alot of people who died in Katrina were stranded there due to no transportation), freedom from abuse,and time to rest or for leisure.

But Me I'd go much farther than that.
I would END the scam called profit forever.
This idea will scare people because they cannot imagine life without getting something for nothing,that greed and Taker mentality is hurting us all.


Huh, I never knew that nutritious food, having a phone, and having great public transportation were guaranteed inalienable rights outlined in our Constitution.

Man, those framers were gooooood.



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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 11:46:56 AM »
Quote from: BadCat on July 31, 2008, 10:15:48 AM
Geez cat "thing", can't you get it through your fat and ugly head?
YOU are DEFECTIVE
YOU drain resources while providing nothing in return to our society.
YOU are at best, a parasite, a tumor.

YOU should be excised.

Not to mention holding the entire human race back from attaining total consciousness.
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 12:18:09 PM »
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 undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)       Fri Jul-04-08 03:24 PM
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14. Yes it is!

 Along with nutritious food,clean water,shelter,warmth,,a lifeline to call for help(phone),a public place like a town square or meeting building for associating with others,to particapate in power politically,GOOD public transportation(alot of people who died in Katrina were stranded there due to no transportation), freedom from abuse,and time to rest or for leisure.

But Me I'd go much farther than that.
I would END the scam called profit forever.
This idea will scare people because they cannot imagine life without getting something for nothing,that greed and Taker mentality is hurting us all.

WTF?  Isn't any money earned by a worker that is over and above his daily needs for minimal food/housing/ and transportation profit?
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 12:47:43 PM »
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This idea will scare people because they cannot imagine life without getting something for nothing,that greed and Taker mentality is hurting us all.

Well, if anyone's an expert at getting and taking while contributing nothing it's Mrs...Ms...Mr...oh, hell with it...cat thing.

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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 12:48:46 PM »
UGP makes any sane person a fan of "Economic Darwinism"........

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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 01:17:06 PM »
Flipping nut job....good grief. She gets everything handed to her on a silver platter and she whines about it, what a total loser... :mental: :mental:
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 04:31:42 PM »

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Stigma is common for the mentally ill/injured .

Stigma keeps society perpetuating and excusing this mistreatment of the mentally ill /injured and letting it continue.


I don't see the relationship between mental illness or injury. They're two distinct, separate issues and shouldn't be lumped together.
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 06:08:21 PM »
No UP, it isn't solely about "medical liability". That is a component but it's hardly the reason people like you are institutionalized and/or medicated and closely watched. Of course asking a mentally ill person to see the logic is like nailing jello to a wall.

She rails against the establishment, claims to be marginialized, spits on everyone who helps her, wants society to DIE, etc...and yet she also wants to claim that mentally ill people are ignored?

"Stay the hell away from me! Eff off and die!!"

"Why won't anyone help me?"

Ugh.  :mental: :thatsright:
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 06:35:31 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on July 31, 2008, 06:08:21 PM
No UP, it isn't solely about "medical liability". That is a component but it's hardly the reason people like you are institutionalized and/or medicated and closely watched. Of course asking a mentally ill person to see the logic is like nailing jello to a wall.

She rails against the establishment, claims to be marginialized, spits on everyone who helps her, wants society to DIE, etc...and yet she also wants to claim that mentally ill people are ignored?

"Stay the hell away from me! Eff off and die!!"

"Why won't anyone help me?"

Ugh.  :mental: :thatsright:

Don't forget her reaction to losing her cat...she just wanted to run out and kill everything and everyone she could.  I have no clue why more people don't want to help her.   :thatsright:
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 06:46:56 PM »
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14. Yes it is!

 Along with nutritious food,clean water,shelter,warmth,,a lifeline to call for help(phone),a public place like a town square or meeting building for associating with others,to particapate in power politically,GOOD public transportation(alot of people who died in Katrina were stranded there due to no transportation), freedom from abuse,and time to rest or for leisure.

But Me I'd go much farther than that.
I would END the scam called profit forever.
This idea will scare people because they cannot imagine life without getting something for nothing,that greed and Taker mentality is hurting us all.

This thing has lost it's f'n mind. Hey moron, who's going to provide you with the nutritious food? I.e. plant it, pick it, harvest it, etc.? Who's going to clean the water? Who's going to build your "shelter"? Who's going to pay for the damn phone line? Who's going to build the "meeting hall"? Who's going to drive the buses? Who's going to build the buses? Who's going to repair the buses? Who's going to provide the fuel for the buses? Are these people supposed to do it for free?

What you don't understand is, ya dumb bitch, you can go and find you a hippie commune somewhere where it's "something" like this. The "problem" is, they'd boot your pathetic ass out because you won't work. NO ONE is going to provide shit for you for free. Hell, when they do, I.e. YOUR MOTHER, you bitch and trash them.

Damn, you're a pathetic waste of oxygen. You make me think Euthanasia isn't that bad of an idea.
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2008, 07:31:40 PM »
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This idea will scare people because they cannot imagine life without getting something for nothing,that greed and Taker mentality is hurting us all.

Only person who cannot imagine life without getting everything for free, is, UGP. After all she is a leech , a scab , and a looter.

UGP is also the poster child of greed, wanting everything for nothing and is the very picture of a "Taker".

Projection Much UGP ?
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2008, 07:34:17 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on July 31, 2008, 06:46:56 PM

What you don't understand is, ya dumb bitch, you can go and find you a hippie commune somewhere where it's "something" like this. The "problem" is, they'd boot your pathetic ass out because you won't work. NO ONE is going to provide shit for you for free. Hell, when they do, I.e. YOUR MOTHER, you bitch and trash them.

Damn, you're a pathetic waste of oxygen. You make me think Euthanasia isn't that bad of an idea.

Unfortunately, Rebel, you and I and all taxpayers already do.
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2008, 08:18:17 PM »
I don't get why she thinks all people with mental problems are treated like shit. I don't see it.
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2008, 08:23:50 PM »
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I don't get why she thinks all people with mental problems are treated like shit. I don't see it.

Being treated like a queen isn't enough for the subway cat.

She wants to be treated like an empress.
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2008, 09:53:33 PM »
What is it with these people wanting everything handed to them for free? WTH have none of these idiots learned one thing in school . Oh yeah thats why we call them DUmmies.
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Re: subway cat explains treatment of the mentally ill
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2008, 10:20:14 PM »
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To be a mental patient is not to die, even if you want to ...

A curse be upon the medial personnel standing in this cat's way.

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