Martymar64 mole or nutcase?

[ScubaGuy]

Where did this clown come from?

In this thread we have these gems. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3019420#3028924

martymar64  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Mar-18-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #49
137. If it collapses, WE THE PEOPLE will finally wake up
   
and man, will they be pissed. Maybe mad enough to start taking up arms and bringing some long overdue justice to the fats cats that have brought us to this point. It might end up like Russia in 1918 or France in 1789. It wouldn't hurt me a bit to see a few CEOs strung up like Mussolini or on the block like Charles the First or Louis the Sixteenth or full of bullets like the Czar.
Sometimes it takes thing like total economic collapse to shake people out of their complacency and their complicity. It's not a matter of wanting it, it's already happening and nobody, not Hillary, not Barack, can stop it.

martymar64  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Mar-18-08 06:12 PM
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139. And when the fats cats come down . . .
   
we'll be there to greet them with ropes and guns and guillotines.

Heads will roll.

martymar64  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Mar-18-08 06:16 PM
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140. Maybe not poor, but . . .
   
do you think those gated communities could hold back an angry armed mob with revenge on their mind?

A fate similar to those Blackwater guys in Falluja a few years back awaits the fat cats.

The rich might just need to flee the US altogether if they want to keep the heads.

In this thread about people listening to Rush. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3028949#3029204

martymar64  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Mar-18-08 06:56 PM
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12. I'd like to hear him plead for his life
   
Right before he's led to the gallows . . . or guillotine.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3198513#3199302

martymar64  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Feb-26-08 05:23 PM
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12. But a revolution will affect the investor class
   
If the economy keeps going to hell, the "investor class" will have nowhere to hide when thousands of angry ARMED people start storming the country clubs and the gated communities.

martymar64  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Mar-06-08 06:25 PM
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67. A working class intellectual, in short, a Commie Atheist Bastard
   
Long Hair, and working on another beard. Dresses like a Ramone.

Beater car, but mostly rides the bus.

A big fan of pun, metal, reggae and subversive music in general.

New Dealer grandparents

Bachelors Degree in Political Science. Also a Law School dropout.

Well read in Marx, can speak a little bit of Russian.

Reads Freak Brothers comics.

Declared as an atheist when called for jury duty. They wouldn't have me.

Artist (film and painting)

Kinda Slavic looking.

Intellectual buy better go back get another degree and learn the difference between their and there.

martymar64  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-02-08 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #106
112. My 20 year Civic gets about 30 mpg
   
It's beat up looking, but at today's price and with my driving, a $25 tank of gas will last me two weeks. I pity the truck drivers that are having to put so much more $ into the tank. If they'd rather blow there cash on gas, fine by me. I'll use my hard earned cash for better things.

[franksolich]

I dunno.

The marty primitive has a shallow understanding of historical parallels.

We already had France in 1789, here, where the ancien regime was overthrown; the Democrats, the special interests, the hippies, whatnot.

It's too early to tell, but either in November 1994, or January 2001, the revolution happened.

We sort of have a mild counter-revolution going on right now, but that happens.

But anyway, if one wishes historical parallels, 1994 or 2001 fit nicely.

[Duke Nukum]

martymar64  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Feb-26-08 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. But a revolution will affect the investor class
   
If the economy keeps going to hell, the "investor class" will have nowhere to hide when thousands of angry ARMED people start storming the country clubs and the gated communities.

Today, just about everyone who is gainfully employed is part of the investor class, or becomes so soon after a probation period.  So that just leaves 5,000 or so DUmmies who lack the dexterity and agility to chew bubble gum and walk at the same time, let alone storm anything.

I vote nutcase.  A mole would do better.

[Chris_]

Did Bellevue have a mass escape or something?

[Rebel]

Is a B.S. in PolySci really worth anything? Other than "maybe" a stepping stone to Law School or Journalism?

Is there anyone else that thought that damn class was the easiest f'n cakewalk of a class to take at the higher education level? Hell, Home f'n Ec is equivalent.

[Duke Nukum]

Is a B.S. in PolySci really worth anything? Other than "maybe" a stepping stone to Law School or Journalism?

Is there anyone else that thought that damn class was the easiest f'n cakewalk of a class to take at the higher education level? Hell, Home f'n Ec is equivalent.

In Home Ec, don't you actually have to produce something?

[Rebel]

Is a B.S. in PolySci really worth anything? Other than "maybe" a stepping stone to Law School or Journalism?

Is there anyone else that thought that damn class was the easiest f'n cakewalk of a class to take at the higher education level? Hell, Home f'n Ec is equivalent.

In Home Ec, don't you actually have to produce something?

[USA4ME]

martymar64 is expressing the things that liberals believe but that only a few are willing to admit outloud.  Below the surface they're a bunch of Sara Jane Moore's and Lynette Squeaky Fromme's just itching to pull the trigger, and they would if they thought they could get away with it.

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[Chris_]

Is a B.S. in PolySci really worth anything? Other than "maybe" a stepping stone to Law School or Journalism?

Is there anyone else that thought that damn class was the easiest f'n cakewalk of a class to take at the higher education level? Hell, Home f'n Ec is equivalent.

In Home Ec, don't you actually have to produce something?

(hehehehe)

[dandi]

Tandalayo_Scheisskopf  (1000+ posts)       Sun Mar-16-08 09:49 PM
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15. Sorry, but...
 As an objectively poor person, watching rapacious rich people becoming poor people is the most fun I have had since the pigs ate my little brother.

Good times. Good times.

That's really what it's all about, isn't it? Despite all the lip service paid to "fairness" and "leveling the playing field", it all boils down to simple, crude, malevolent envy and the desire to see those who have succeeded in life be brought low.

Someone, I think it was Boortz or Limbaugh, said, "If you took all the wealth of the nation today and redistributed it evenly to every man, woman and child, in two years time we would be right back to the same relative distribution we have today. That's because 'the rich' keep doing the things that got them rich and 'the poor' keep doing the things that keep them poor." I agree with that statement. The only way to stop it would be to impose a system of socialism/communism so draconian that it would stifle creativity, innovation and risk to the point of turning us into a Third World nation, with our best and brightest fleeing to friendlier climes. In the DUmmies' comic bok view of revolution and social change, they think nothing through.

SDuderstadt (1000+ posts)       Tue Mar-18-08 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #121
131. Boy, you really got me this time, didn't you...
 Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 01:09 PM by SDuderstadt
or, did you? If you'd bother to read what I wrote more carefully, you'd realize that you're having an argument with yourself. What I said was, the Federal Reserve is not "privately held". And it isn't. In typical keyboard commando style, you read part of what I wrote, then went off in a quest to prove me wrong, never realizing that your grasp of nuance is sadly lacking.

What exactly does Wikipedia say about the Federal Reserve? "Created in 1913 by the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, it is a quasi-public (part private, part government) banking system<1> composed of (1) the presidentially-appointed Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in Washington, D.C.; (2) the Federal Open Market Committee; (3) 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks located in major cities throughout the nation acting as fiscal agents for the U.S. Treasury, each with its own nine-member board of directors; (4) numerous private U.S. member banks, which subscribe to required amounts of non-transferable stock in their regional Federal Reserve Banks; and (5) various advisory councils."

The wording in Wikipedia is a little imprecise, so it's easy to understand how one can come away with the wrong impression, UNLESS one knows how to properly conduct research. If you'd bother to read the ENTIRE Wikipedia entry, you'd find it goes on to say the following:

"'The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone and is not a private, profit-making institution. Instead, it is an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects.

As the nation's central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the U.S. Congress. It is considered an independent central bank because its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms. However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute. Also, the Federal Reserve must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic and financial policy established by the government. Therefore, the Federal Reserve can be more accurately described as "independent within the government."

The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by Congress as the operating arms of the nation's central banking system, are organized much like private corporations--possibly leading to some confusion about "ownership." For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.'

I can't speak for you, but that's pretty clear to me and establishes EXACTLY what I said in my previous post (you know, the one you "disproved"): the Federal Reserve is NOT privately held. Just because it has public purposes and private aspects does not make it privately held in any sense of the word. So, we probably ought to enunciate some "lessons learned" for you. I'll try to be polite.

1. If you're going to quote me, please quote me correctly. I challenge you to find any post from me remotely like what you described thusly: "His or her claim was that it was 'not private'". I said nothing of the sort. Do you honestly claim that since the Federal Reserve has private aspects, it is privately held? Do you even understand the distinction being made here?

2. "So to claim my educational experiences absurd, is just simple invalidation".

WTF are you trying to say here? Did you mean to say it was an attempt at "simple invalidation" or did it succeed? I don't recall anyone saying or claiming your educational experiences were absurd. For my part, I merely pointed out that your experiences were far from universal. You seem to be trying to blame the educational system for your own failure to grasp complex subjects.

3. "If one looks at where this country has gone for many years now, and thinks of the FACT that everything is run by frat boys and girls partying hardy and living in mansions, while preying on working people to pay for their hangovers, then it begins to make sense why everything is falling apart".

Feeling a little hyperbolic today? EVERYTHING is run by frat boys and girls? Do you need a list of business leaders/owners who were never in a fraternity or sorority? What a silly claim and hardly a "FACT", as you assert. BTW, you mean partying "hearty", not partying "hardy". I grew up largely before "party" became more well-known as a verb and even I know the difference between "hearty" and "hardy".

4. "Our country is run by dishonest people, our businesses are run by dishonest people, and the rest of us get the financial shaft".

So, no businesses are run by honest people? Really. I run the analysis division of a business consulting firm that helps small and medium-sized businesses, which means I work with a great deal of family-owned businesses. Maybe I should start busting their chops for being "dishonest". Of course, my personal experience has been that they are not only honest, but mostly want the best for their employees and customers. Your claim is absurd.

5. "That's why when citizens fail, we go bankrupt, when private institutions fail, well, they can't fail, our "leaders" bail them out by printing more money, another type of tax, so once again, the frat boys and girls cannot fail, they only want the rest of us to fail".

So, no business ever fails because they are all bailed out by the government? Do I really have to debunk this? Do you realize what an absurd over-generalization this is? Would you like a list of failed businesses that refutes your absurd claim? Here's a partial list:

TWA
Pan-American Airways
Braniff International Airways
Regent Air
Texas Air
Western Pacific Airways

And, when the government "bails out a business", they do it by "printing more money"? Do you have any evidence of this at all? Or, is this another one of your suppositions? Do you even know how the Federal Reserve and our monetary system work? Your silly assertions belie an utter lack of understanding of this area. And, when the Federal Reserve "creates money", how exactly is that "another type of tax"? Honestly, you're sounding like you've been reading JBS literature exclusively.

6. "I'll take Douchebag as a compliment, I honed my skills here on DU against many similar "invalidators", likely professional ones".

Could you explain to me exactly what a professional "invalidator" is? Is there someplace I could apply? How's the pay? Do you honestly think that anyone worries about your yammering (as well as that of others) so much that they would pay people to rebut you on a message board?

7. "Oh, by the way, the OP's formula is also idiotic. We're apparently having "bank runs" right now. The Countrywide affair has been called one. I'm sure that there are a number of them that have been kept out of MSM. Weren't there a big one back in the 80s?

So, the formula "NO FED = BANK RUNS" is a non-sequitor. BANK RUNS seem to be a fact of life with or without a Federal Reserve. This is because 'FED = BANK RUNS'".

This is your most absurd claim yet. How was the Countrywide "affair" a "bank run"? Could you please explain that one? Do you even know what a "bank run" is? You claim that you are sure that a "number of them that have been kept out of MSM". Really. Well, since you're since a crack researcher, why don't you name a couple? Please be specific.

"Weren't there a big one back in the 80s?". Do you have a problem with subject/verb agreement? Let's let your embarrassing lack of grammatical skills go for a moment, though. If there was one "back in the 80's", surely you would remember the name, wouldn't you? Why don't you tell us what it is, or is this just you blowing smoke?

BTW, it's "non-sequitur", not "non-sequitor". If you're going to pretend to have some mastery of Logic, learn how to spell the terms properly. As far as your claim that "Fed = Bank runs", please provide some proof of this. Again, your claims show your absolute lack of knowledge of how some of our most critical and fundamental institutions actually operate. And, please, don't respond with some idiotic YouTube video supposed to educate me as to how Paul Grignon or any other know-nothing thinks our monetary system works.

Finally, an appeal. Would you consider rounding up some (or all) of your like-minded friends and inhabiting some non-progressive website instead? Liberalism is finally in ascendancy and, frankly, posters like you are a huge embarrassment to the progressive movement. I honestly did not think I would start encountering such absurd RW nonsense about the Federal Reserve here.

LOL SDuderstadt schools them, but it falls on deaf ears. The Kool Aid, it is teh sweet.
 
 

[DumbAss Tanker]

Those pathetic idiots really have no idea how hard they'd be hit in an economic collapse.  The really rich usually come through such disasters pretty well, even if in 'reduced circumstances.'  The people that are on the make and investing everything in their futures for little in hand now is the freakin' middle class, who get busted down to broke and scrambling.  But the people who don't realize they're living at the margins already, and on the handouts of the middle class, like assbrain martymar, might as well pack their bindle and start looking for a place where the freight trains have to slow down for a grade.

And if anyone storms anything, they better bring their IBA, a few hundred ambulances, and a couple of refridgerated van semis for the bodies.  Not like any gasbag DUers would actually show for it of course.