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primitives discuss Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich winning
« on: June 04, 2009, 09:53:53 AM »
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flpoljunkie  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-04-09 08:16 AM
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E. J. Dionne: Rush and Newt Are Winning

A media environment that tilts to the right is obscuring what President Obama stands for and closing off political options that should be part of the public discussion.

Yes, you read that correctly: If you doubt that there is a conservative inclination in the media, consider which arguments you hear regularly and which you don't. When Rush Limbaugh sneezes or Newt Gingrich tweets, their views ricochet from the Internet to cable television and into the traditional media. It is remarkable how successful they are in setting what passes for the news agenda.

The power of the Limbaugh-Gingrich axis means that Obama is regularly cast as somewhere on the far left end of a truncated political spectrum. He's the guy who nominates a "racist" to the Supreme Court (though Gingrich retreated from the word yesterday), wants to weaken America's defenses against terrorism and is proposing a massive government takeover of the private economy. Steve Forbes, writing for his magazine, recently went so far as to compare Obama's economic policies to those of Juan Peron's Argentina.

Democrats are complicit in building up Gingrich and Limbaugh as the main spokesmen for the Republican Party, since Obama polls so much better than either of them. But the media play an independent role by regularly treating far-right views as mainstream positions and by largely ignoring critiques of Obama that come from elected officials on the left.

This was brought home at this week's annual conference of the Campaign for America's Future, a progressive group that supports Obama but worries about how close his economic advisers are to Wall Street, how long our troops will have to stay in Afghanistan and how much he will be willing to compromise to secure health-care reform.

In other words, they see Obama not as the parody created by the far right but as he actually is: a politician with progressive values but moderate instincts who has hewed to the middle of the road in dealing with the economic crisis, health care, Guantanamo and the war in Afghanistan.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

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NewJeffCT  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-04-09 09:32 AM
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2. he's 100% right

The debate has been between the far right and the center, meaning compromises will be merely conservative instead of far right...

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Uzybone  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jun-04-09 09:46 AM
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5. the so called liberal media

cable news is a blight on our democracy.

Great piece by Dionne.

"Her point has broader application. For all the talk of a media love affair with Obama, there is a deep and largely unconscious conservative bias in the media's discussion of policy. The range of acceptable opinion runs from the moderate left to the far right and cuts off more vigorous progressive perspectives."

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EquallyExhausted (48 posts)      Thu Jun-04-09 10:21 AM
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7. i agree to an extent

he's right about the media's conservative slant on policy, and how they paint anything moderately left of center as part of the far left and thus easily dismissed (treatment that the the far right never gets); but i don't think that somehow began when democrats anointed rush as the head of the republican party.

the media has allowed the republican party to tout rush and his crazy ilk as legitimate mainstream voices for decades, while anything even half as extreme on the left is harped on until democrats apologize for it; he's always been a disgusting bigot, yet the bullshit line republican elected officials use about rush being "strong voice for conservatism" has always stood unquestioned.

that bias has always existed, and will for ages to come, so i can't blame democrats for finally milking whatever advantage they can from that existing relationship, to try and put the extremism on full display for the middle to balk at.

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Jennicut  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-04-09 10:22 AM
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8. This is so true, the media is conservative and Obama is looked at as far left

While he is only a moderate. Its a false debate all the time.

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alwysdrunk  (899 posts)      Thu Jun-04-09 10:44 AM
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9. If they are winning then who is losing?

He must be saying that the left and far left are losing/ If so then I can see his angle but... not really.

If he means that the Republican party is winning; that they are seeing a net gain from having Rush and Newt out in from instead of Boehner and Romney, then he is dead wrong.

Hmmm.  I thought there would be more meat in this, than there is.

That's what happens when one starts copying-and-pasting at the beginning of a primitive bonfire, and reads as he copies-and-pastes.

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Re: primitives discuss Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich winning
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2009, 10:16:49 AM »
The Little Goons and E.J Dionne are willfully stupid, again.  The "right-leaning" mass media, which isn't at all "right-leaning", is not promoting, on purpose, the views of Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich.  What the VERY LIBERAL mass media thinks it is doing is EXPOSING the "radical" views of Limbaugh and Gingrich. 

The liberal mass media has the common knowledge expectation that the public is listening to their reports about what Limbaugh and Gingrich have to say while sitting there and sharing in the disgust the media thinks is appropriate.  It has absolutely nothing to do with "reporting" and absolutely everything to do with attempting to poison whatever message Limbaugh and Gingrich may have.

The liberal mass media is an arrogant self-involved entity with little regard for what the public actually thinks about anything.  The liberal mass media is sure the public will agree with them.  In fact, they have no inclination to believe any other way.

Another grand example of this arrogance and self-involvement is the recent coverage the liberal mass media did about the late-term bullet abortion of the so-called Dr. Tiller.  The liberal media took for granted the public was as horrified by the event as the liberal media was itself.  There was no room to think about the reality.  That reality being about 80% of the public was either shrugging its shoulders or saying, "It's about time". 

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Re: primitives discuss Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich winning
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 10:19:30 AM »
Rush, Newt, and Ann stand out because their voices are different from the vast wilderness of DNC-controlled parrots that make the MSM a homogenized hamster-dance that nobody cares about.
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Re: primitives discuss Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich winning
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 11:05:51 AM »
The only voice that shall be heard from the wilderness is that of lord Obama.So it is written so it shall be done.. :mental:
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Re: primitives discuss Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich winning
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2009, 11:48:19 AM »
When Pravda has more news about the USA than our government media, you know you are in trouble.
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Re: primitives discuss Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich winning
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2009, 12:17:52 PM »
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A media environment that tilts to the right is exposing what President Obama stands for and closing off political options that should be part of the public discussion.

Other than my "fix".    :bs:


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cable news is a blight on our democracy.


Thats right Uziboned, time to get rid of CNN, MSNBC..........................


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Jennicut  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-04-09 10:22 AM
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8. This is so true, the media is conservative and Obama is looked at as far left

While he is only a moderate. Its a false debate all the time.


You really are too stupid to live.


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alwysdrunk  (899 posts)      Thu Jun-04-09 10:44 AM
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9. If they are winning then who is losing?

He must be saying that the left and far left are losing/ If so then I can see his angle but... not really.

If he means that the Republican party is winning; that they are seeing a net gain from having Rush and Newt out in from instead of Boehner and Romney, then he is dead wrong.



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Re: primitives discuss Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich winning
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2009, 01:01:00 PM »
Well, I was just over on Skins's island, and noticed Oscar Wilde, the large-proboscised primitive, the "Cyrano" primitive, lit a second bonfire about very same thing.

Sorry I didn't bring it over, but the primitives can get boringly repetitious.
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