DUmmies Discuss Worst States For Retirees

[GOBUCKS]

Rage for Order  (1000+ posts)        Sun Dec-19-10 05:17 PM
Original message
The 10 Worst States for Retirees
 http://finance.yahoo.com/focus-retirement/article/11158...

Per the article, the 10 worst states are:

1. Illinois
2. California
3. New York
4. Rhode Island
5. New Jersey
6. Ohio
7. Wisconsin
8. Massachusetts
9. Connecticut
10. Nevada

The list, with Illinois leading the pack, comes from website TopRetirements.com. According to John Brady, president of TopRetirements.com, the 10 states earn this dubious distinction largely because of three factors: fiscal health, taxation, climate.

As for fiscal health, six of the 10 worst states for retirees on TopRetirements.com's list were among those just identified by a Pew Center for States report as being in "fiscal peril."

The report, "Beyond California: States in Fiscal Peril," showed that "some of the same pressures that have pushed California toward economic disaster are wreaking havoc in a number of other states, with potentially damaging consequences for the entire country."

Of note, TopRetirements.com's Brady suggested that retirees and would-be retirees might want to avoid states in fiscal peril because these locales might be expected to face decreasing services and increasing taxation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x40908

Hmm...what do most of these states have in common??

dkf  (1000+ posts)        Sun Dec-19-10 05:19 PM
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2. The states in the worst shape are blue states.
That can't be good. 

   

DUmmy Mz Pip knows why blue states are going broke:

Mz Pip  (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-19-10 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #2
13. Probably because we're paying all that Red State Welfare.

Everyone I know gets a check every month from some democrat state.

stray cat (1000+ posts)     Sun Dec-19-10 05:20 PM
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3. The south comes out ahead for retirees and the east coast not so much
Too expensive!

   

Commie Pinko Dirtbag  (1000+ posts)        Sun Dec-19-10 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #3
26. Yeah, the best places do tend to be more expensive. Hardly news, that. -nt

If we could afford it, we'd all move to New York.

tularetom  (1000+ posts)        Sun Dec-19-10 05:28 PM
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8. Yes, people should retire in places like Arizona
Where they can get refused for needed operations or transplants because they don't have the financial means or adequate insurance to pay for it.
I call bullshit on that list.

 

Hello_Kitty  (1000+ posts)        Sun Dec-19-10 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Yeah, it looks like RW think tank horseshit to me. eom

frazzled  (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-19-10 05:31 PM
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10. These lists are usually not worth the paper they're printed on
If it were me, I'd rather be a retiree in parts of New York, Illinois, or California: at least there is some culture there, which is really sustaining. I'd rather have access to museums, theater, and music in my old age than some abstract set of financial indices....

When you ask people nearing retirement what their plans are, you continually hear about dreams of Illinois.

[JohnnyReb]

I hope, I hope, I hope those blue state retirees are to broke to move to my little red state hell.

[Evil_Conservative]

I'd retire in Montana or Wyoming.  States nobody ever talks about.  That way I'll be left alone.

[AllosaursRus]

frazzled  (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-19-10 05:31 PM
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10. These lists are usually not worth the paper they're printed on
If it were me, I'd rather be a retiree in parts of New York, Illinois, or California: at least there is some culture there, which is really sustaining. I'd rather have access to museums, theater, and music in my old age than some abstract set of financial indices....

Yeah, art and culture! That's what I base my retirement opinions on! Things like Jesus covered in ants, gay pride parades where assless chaps are considered the latest fashion statement of the day, or the abortion capital of the world!!!! Sounds like retirement heaven!

You betcha! I'd rather live within the top 10 crime cities in America! Never mind the fact that criminals pick on the elderly since they can't defend themselves do to the nanny state liberal gun control laws!

You betcha LA, SF, Detroit, Chicago, and NY City! That's where I want to die! Hell, my kids would probably have trouble stealin' back my corpse!

ETA:

I'd retire in Montana or Wyoming.  States nobody ever talks about.  That way I'll be left alone.

Ya got sumpin' against Idaho there Bubba, sorry, Bubbette? Montana is quickly becoming Kalifornicatin's retirement village, and they're bringin' their politics with 'em! We try like hell to run 'em out after a good winter!

[Evil_Conservative]

No problems with Idaho. I'd consider that state too.

[thundley4]

I want somewhere warm when I retire.  I'm sick of this cold in Illinois, and all the libtards ruining things.

[Janice]

You know that after the dimwits completely bankrupt or otherwise screw up their own state beyond repair, just pack up and move to a red state so that they can start the process all over again. A bit like a disease that consumes the host.

[Ballygrl]

Hmm...what do most of these states have in common??

I was just going to ask that!

[AllosaursRus]

No problems with Idaho. I'd consider that state too.

I know! I was just bein' myself, a smartass!

[dutch508]

Yeah, art and culture! That's what I base my retirement opinions on! Things like Jesus covered in ants, gay pride parades where assless chaps are considered the latest fashion statement of the day, or the abortion capital of the world!!!! Sounds like retirement heaven!

You betcha! I'd rather live within the top 10 crime cities in America! Never mind the fact that criminals pick on the elderly since they can't defend themselves do to the nanny state liberal gun control laws!

You betcha LA, SF, Detroit, Chicago, and NY City! That's where I want to die! Hell, my kids would probably have trouble stealin' back my corpse!

ETA:

Ya got sumpin' against Idaho there Bubba, sorry, Bubbette? Montana is quickly becoming Kalifornicatin's retirement village, and they're bringin' their politics with 'em! We try like hell to run 'em out after a good winter!

what? Did you say BOOBIEZ!?!?

[JLO]

I'd retire in Montana or Wyoming.  States nobody ever talks about.  That way I'll be left alone.

Ya, when I was young and traveled the western states, we went to Stanley, Idaho.  I said many times that's where I would retire.  It is breathtaking.  Ha!  Here I am in northern MN which is also beautiful, but no mountain backdrop.

Pics:

http://www.google.com/images?q=stanley+idaho&hl=en&prmd=ivnsm&source=lnms&tbs=isch:1&ei=8_MOTZ3vA6iBnAfN6PCbDg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CBQQ_AU&biw=1271&bih=582

[BlueStateSaint]

You know that after the dimwits completely bankrupt or otherwise screw up their own state beyond repair, just pack up and move to a red state so that they can start the process all over again. A bit like a disease that consumes the host.

That's what happened to Vermont, as Crockspot will attest to.  All of the lefties fled their liberal shitholes of NYC and Mass., and went to Vermont and NH.  They're trying to ruin NH right now.

Upstate NY, where I live, is pretty red right now.  We just booted a lefty Congresscritter that was trying to fly under the radar, so to speak, and replaced him with an Airborne Ranger.  There's hope for us.

[formerlurker]

That's what happened to Vermont, as Crockspot will attest to.  All of the lefties fled their liberal shitholes of NYC and Mass., and went to Vermont and NH.  They're trying to ruin NH right now.

Upstate NY, where I live, is pretty red right now.  We just booted a lefty Congresscritter that was trying to fly under the radar, so to speak, and replaced him with an Airborne Ranger.  There's hope for us.

Uh, the liberal mecca of Burlington is saturated with socialist Canadian transplants.   No one from MA is moving to VT -- what in the hell does VT have to offer them to make the move?    Don't get me wrong, I love VT -- it is one of the prettiest states in the union, but to move there?   no way.   

NH has infested the state of MA for work for as long as I have been drawing breath.   They schlep down  here clogging our highways in their uninsured vehicles everyday.   Sure you have some MA folks who purchased houses in NH border towns when the market peaked 5 or less years ago, but NH has always been the red headed step cousin of New England.   Unless you are heading to the lake for the summer or ski in the winter, you are driving through there to get to Maine only.   

There are no active duty bases in New England sufficient for retirees, and it is freakin cold here in the winter.   Not a great place for them to retire, I agree.

[NHSparky]

Uh, the liberal mecca of Burlington is saturated with socialist Canadian transplants.   No one from MA is moving to VT -- what in the hell does VT have to offer them to make the move?    Don't get me wrong, I love VT -- it is one of the prettiest states in the union, but to move there?   no way.   

NH has infested the state of MA for work for as long as I have been drawing breath.   They schlep down  here clogging our highways in their uninsured vehicles everyday.   Sure you have some MA folks who purchased houses in NH border towns when the market peaked 5 or less years ago, but NH has always been the red headed step cousin of New England.   Unless you are heading to the lake for the summer or ski in the winter, you are driving through there to get to Maine only.   

There are no active duty bases in New England sufficient for retirees, and it is freakin cold here in the winter.   Not a great place for them to retire, I agree.

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

I can smell the bullshit from that post through my monitor.

Tell ya what--where's all the crime and crap in NH coming from?

Who comes up and clogs OUR roads, stores, towns every weekend with their schlepping up to Conway, the lakes region, or just to Seabrook, Salem, and Portsmouth in search of tax-free shopping?

Red-headed stepchild?  ****in-A-dittybag--because we tried being liberal for a few years.  See what happened in November? 

Live free or die, baby!

[Ballygrl]

That's what happened to Vermont, as Crockspot will attest to.  All of the lefties fled their liberal shitholes of NYC and Mass., and went to Vermont and NH.  They're trying to ruin NH right now.

The same thing with North Carolina, people who are being driven out of NY and NJ move to North Carolina and take their voting ways with them.

[Karin]

Yes, NH redeemed itself quite nicely in November.  

That's pretty funny up there, the DUmmies twisting themselves around to justify the moonbat states from hell.  Culture, music, art?  What, do they think we're living in the year 1800?  Everything is accessible to everyone, in this day and age.  Also, there are air  ports.  

In one of our arguments about moving the hell away from NY, my husband asked, "well, where????"  I picked the first place to come to mind.  "North Idaho."  

(PS  I'll be taking my good habits and voting ways with me, (along with my bad habits), so I won't be ruining any of the red state goodness).

[GOBUCKS]

In this raging battle between NH and MA, my money is on MA.
They still have DUkakis wheeling around in that Abrams tank.

[AllosaursRus]

Yes, NH redeemed itself quite nicely in November. 

That's pretty funny up there, the DUmmies twisting themselves around to justify the moonbat states from hell.  Culture, music, art?  What, do they think we're living in the year 1800?  Everything is accessible to everyone, in this day and age.  Also, there are air  ports. 

In one of our arguments about moving the hell away from NY, my husband asked, "well, where????"  I picked the first place to come to mind.  "North Idaho." 

(PS  I'll be taking my good habits and voting ways with me, (along with my bad habits), so I won't be ruining any of the red state goodness).

Be glad to have ya Karin! Coeur D'Alene is probably the best all round choice if ya still have to work. Otherwise Sandpoint, a little farther north, is the cat's meow! has one of the deepest lakes in N. America, ski resort, huntin', fishin', hiking, and on and on!

This is the view lookin' out my back door.........

[GOBUCKS]

.......
Everything is accessible to everyone, in this day and age.  Also, there are air  ports.
.......  

Excellent!! DUmmy TwixVoy appreciates your concern!

[Odin's Hand]

Stay the hell out of Oklahoma, snowbirds.

[jukin]

It is curious how every time leftist policies are tried and then inevitably fail, it is never the policies fault but due to meanies of the right. USSR fails it's USA's fault. Same with Cuba.  Now we have failure in the bluest states and cities and what is the excuse? It is the red state's fault.

You. Can't. Make. This. Up.

[Ree]

No problems with Idaho. I'd consider that state too.

If it wasn't for the cold I'd think of stayin in ID....I didn't get to see much of the state this summer coz i couldn't get around....But I do want to do a cruise down the snake before I leave...and get up north to have a visit with allo and toots...

I did get to see some of this:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1204&bih=646&q=bridge+at+twin+falls+id&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

[Evil_Conservative]

I'd move to Sedona, AZ if I had the money.

All of these pictures were taken during our honeymoon.

[IassaFTots]

I love Sedona.  I am with you.  If I had the $$, I would be there in a heartbeat!

[formerlurker]

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

I can smell the bullshit from that post through my monitor.

Tell ya what--where's all the crime and crap in NH coming from?

Who comes up and clogs OUR roads, stores, towns every weekend with their schlepping up to Conway, the lakes region, or just to Seabrook, Salem, and Portsmouth in search of tax-free shopping?

Red-headed stepchild?  ****in-A-dittybag--because we tried being liberal for a few years.  See what happened in November?  

Live free or die, baby!

I love it when a transplant to NH tries to school me on New England.

Everything I said is 110% true, and let's be clear about the clogging the roadways -- Boston (for W-O-R-K, regular tourist reasons, Red Sox, Celtics, Bruins and hospitals), Foxboro, Cape Cod, Vineyard and the Berkshires -- NH slobs pollute our state daily.  Every.Single.Day.  

 

MA residents traveling to NH to commit crime?    

Good one.