I'm wondering if it is really worth it to go back to work...

[Carl]

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jxnmsdemguy65 (417 posts)          Fri Sep-10-10 10:47 PM
Original message
I'm wondering if it is really worth it to go back to work...
      

I've been out of work for two years, and while it has been stressful at times, it has also been a time of blissful relaxation.

Now I've gone back to a full-time job and I'm absolutely miserable.

This job - dealing with subject matter that I absolutely hate - pays only $11.58 per hour. At my last full - time job, I made over double that.

The worst part of it is that have no time for anything else - now that I work full time, I find I'm working ALL the time - keeping my house clean, washing clothes, and cooking meals.

Of course, I'm single - I decided long ago that marriage and having children in this economy would be way too stressful / expensive.

Is it really worth it to work full time?

Seems like it takes all the joy out of life.

How did we get in this state of mind where people feel obligated to find a job and work?

Who would have guessed that question from a DUmmy? 

RandomThoughts  (1000+ posts)          Fri Sep-10-10 10:49 PM
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2. I will not work.
   Edited on Fri Sep-10-10 10:52 PM by RandomThoughts
Not till the issue I have is corrected, I am due from years ago.

I did check out work scene a few years ago, to see if things had changed, they hadn't

So somebody is going to correct my issues.



And some think my post here could be work, but they cover such a wide set of views, they don't point to any single thought, but that thoughts exist.



So when commenting on work, it would be insane when already due, to go and work for something. That makes no sense.


And I don't think correlation is causation, and know I will be given money for beer and travel and much enjoyment to compensate for wrong smear done to me years ago.

So I also don't worry about correlations, since I know they can be used to try and train and from that are not real.

The debt due to me is real, and will be paid.


Also society will get more just, and more compassionate. But things have always been that way.
   

Anybody got a road map to help me follow that?

TBF  (1000+ posts)          Sat Sep-11-10 07:57 AM
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24. It is this attitude that keeps us slaves.
   "And there are a lot of people who would love a full-time job, or any job"

In this economy - of course there are. But your implication with that statement is that he should take what he can get and be happy with it. Such a typical owner mentality.
   

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stlsaxman  (1000+ posts)          Sat Sep-11-10 08:58 AM
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27. yeah- this sounds like the type of question a troll would post here... then report it back at
   Free Republic as "see- them lazy socialist just want everything GIVEN to them!"

That pretty much is what the thread is about after all.

FirstLight  (1000+ posts)          Fri Sep-10-10 10:52 PM
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6. I dunno...
   But I think the 40 hour workweek is a load of crap.
I too have been out of wirk since 2008, and I don't know how i get things done as it is, much less working a full back-breaking week. I have kids and am single, so it's that much harder... and I have to say i appreciate more now than i did then, except the hours away from home and family!

 

Silver Gaia  (1000+ posts)        Sat Sep-11-10 05:32 AM
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21. I think I sort of get where he’s coming from. Sort of...
   Or maybe I’m just riffing off what was said on my own, but it’s something I’ve thought about over the years, too. WORK used to be different for people, and I’m not talking about just the past few years, but over a very long period of time stretching back hundreds of years. The very nature of work has changed for humankind, particularly since industrialization. Work used to be farming, or maybe a craft you learned from your father – like being a cobbler and making shoes – or maybe your mother taught you how to sew clothes for other people. Maybe your family worked in the building trades or were merchants or fishermen or weavers or bookbinders or blacksmiths or woodsmen, and so on. It was usually something passed on within the family. Or if you didn’t want to go into the family trade, you could apprentice to someone else you knew and learn to do something different. A person didn’t have to fret and stew so much about what they wanted to BE. Maybe you didn’t have much, but neither did anyone else you knew within your own social sphere. The stress level was not what it is today in regard to work. There was not the same level of pressure about work that we feel now.

I’m not going to go into slavery or indentured servitude or anything like that since that is obviously very different. I’m talking about people who practiced some sort of trade – the working class. There have been hard times in the past, that’s for sure. But on the whole, I think WORK was tied much more closely to HOME and FAMILY than what we have now, and was, ultimately, more satisfying and not such a struggle.

The whole idea of a career, of having to find a job (nowadays, any job), and keep it whether you like it or not, just in order to survive – the way we do now – is a relatively new development in human history. It was not such a struggle and didn’t often force us to do things that were against our nature just to survive.

Work should not be ALL there is in our lives. We need to have time to enjoy our lives as well, to spend time doing nothing but talking with our beloved, to laugh with our children, to spend time in a garden or fishing or some other relaxing pursuit. Too often, our lives revolve around work, and it becomes the most important thing we do in a day. Everything else is secondary. This is just no way to live. We are slaves to the modern way of life. It is what it is. But I’m not sure it’s really in our best interest in the general sense. I think it’s making us crazy in a lot of ways – violence that makes no sense, depression off the charts and people taking drugs (anti-depressants) just to cope, rudeness, lack of caring about fellow human beings, and on and on. Yeah, yeah, that sort of thing (minus anti-depressant drugs) can be found in other eras as well, but I wonder about the overall percentage of people in the past who felt emotionally satisfied with their lives overall as compared to now. There seems to be an overall discontent with the very nature of our lives, and a lot of that can be tied to how we are expected to live our lives.

They didn`t grow up under a liberal entitlement mentality.

NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)        Sat Sep-11-10 09:10 AM
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28. I see you have been taking some heat on this post but I understand
   I was once laid off for just short of two years myself. And to be perfectly honest I wasn't worth a **** when I finally went back to work. My entire attitude had changed. And not for the better either. All I could think about was retiring. I was fortunate enough that I was able to retire with 30 and out at 48 years old and I am glad I did. Life has never been better since I retired.

I know what you are going through. And this issue should be discussed more. I doubt long term unemployment is good for anyone. Good luck and I wish you the best.

And for those who think this comes from laziness, it is not. Being unemployed for an extended period can break you. It broke me.

Don
   

   

aikoaiko  (1000+ posts)        Sat Sep-11-10 09:25 AM
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29. If you were happier not working then so be it.
   Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 09:26 AM by aikoaiko
You didn't mention being in the dole so I assume you have other options.

However if you are planning on using government assistance instead of working by choice, then I would think you would rather work then depend on the taxed income of working others (who also may not like working). In that sense, it is proper to feel obligated to work even when the work is not personally satisfying.

   

Good luck with that idea at the DUmp.

[BlueStateSaint]

Oh my . . .

NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)        Sat Sep-11-10 09:10 AM
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28. I see you have been taking some heat on this post but I understand
   I was once laid off for just short of two years myself. And to be perfectly honest I wasn't worth a **** when I finally went back to work.

And, the fact that you're a DUmor means that you're still not worth a ****.

[Revolution]

You pieces of shit. You STUPID pieces of shit. Obviously, you don't think about people like me who are out of work, but actively looking. Who can't drive, and is visually disabled, and yet still keep looking.

Do yourselves a favor: Buy Somehow acquire a .357, load, (if you can) put to brainstem, and pull squeeze the trigger!

[Tucker]

He's single. He cooks, cleans house and does laundry. He would make someone a good wife.

[Revolution]

I'm just sick of the total lack of compassion, understanding, or general decency from the DUmors.

It never changes...

[Ballygrl]

Total Mole

[BlueStateSaint]

He's single. He cooks, cleans house and does laundry. He would make someone a good wife.

What's to say that he isn't already?

[Tucker]

What's to say that he isn't already?

True. He stated that he was single, not unattached.

[Ree]

So who does that DUmb **** think should support him? The rest of the "workers"? I'll admit I have a job right now, and have no idea when or if I be able to  work. But when I was able to, and didn't work I didn't think the government should support me.

[Revolution]

So who does that DUmb **** think should support him? The rest of the "workers"? I'll admit I have a job right now, and have no idea when or if I be able to  work. But when I was able to, and didn't work I didn't think the government should support me.

[BadCat]

That was his ONE post yesterday (according to Violator).

Mole.

[IassaFTots]

RandomThoughts  (1000+ posts)          Fri Sep-10-10 10:49 PM
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2. I will not work.
   Edited on Fri Sep-10-10 10:52 PM by RandomThoughts
Not till the issue I have is corrected, I am due from years ago.

I did check out work scene a few years ago, to see if things had changed, they hadn't

So somebody is going to correct my issues.



And some think my post here could be work, but they cover such a wide set of views, they don't point to any single thought, but that thoughts exist.



So when commenting on work, it would be insane when already due, to go and work for something. That makes no sense.


And I don't think correlation is causation, and know I will be given money for beer and travel and much enjoyment to compensate for wrong smear done to me years ago.

So I also don't worry about correlations, since I know they can be used to try and train and from that are not real.

The debt due to me is real, and will be paid.


Also society will get more just, and more compassionate. But things have always been that way.

 

Reading RT's posts always make me nostalgic for the days of my misspent youth.   

[Revolution]

That was his ONE post yesterday (according to Violator).

Mole.

Well...that's why I couldn't be a mole. I don't think I could say shit like that. In fact, I'm 99% sure.

[true_blood]

From above;
jxnmsdemguy65 (417 posts)          Fri Sep-10-10 10:47 PM
Original message
I'm wondering if it is really worth it to go back to work...
     

I've been out of work for two years, and while it has been stressful at times, it has also been a time of blissful relaxation.

Now I've gone back to a full-time job and I'm absolutely miserable.

This job - dealing with subject matter that I absolutely hate - pays only $11.58 per hour. At my last full - time job, I made over double that.

The worst part of it is that have no time for anything else - now that I work full time, I find I'm working ALL the time - keeping my house clean, washing clothes, and cooking meals.

Of course, I'm single - I decided long ago that marriage and having children in this economy would be way too stressful / expensive.

Is it really worth it to work full time?

Seems like it takes all the joy out of life.

How did we get in this state of mind where people feel obligated to find a job and work?

Here's an idea DUmmie! Why don't you just stay home, smoke your pot, take your gubberment hand out head meds and call it a day while the real Americans work for a living and help pay to keep you fed, in shelter and living. Take a walk. These people are unbelievable!

[Carl]

Well...that's why I couldn't be a mole. I don't think I could say shit like that. In fact, I'm 99% sure.

I need to get mine going...it is kind of difficult to spew insane crap but need to make sure I have enough posts to weather a lockdown in November.

[franksolich]

Has anyone noticed that when the primitives compare their jobs of today with their best jobs, or highest-paying jobs, that the latter happened when.....George Bush was president?

[true_blood]

Has anyone noticed that when the primitives compare their jobs of today with their best jobs, or highest-paying jobs, that the latter happened when.....George Bush was president?

Yeah, they seem to forget that simple fact.

[Ballygrl]

Well...that's why I couldn't be a mole. I don't think I could say shit like that. In fact, I'm 99% sure.

That's why I wanted my mole to get caught, I couldn't do it anymore, I felt like crap typing some of the things I did to try to fit in there.

[Revolution]

That's why I wanted my mole to get caught, I couldn't do it anymore, I felt like crap typing some of the things I did to try to fit in there.

Oh, if they'd let me in to say my piece, I would only have one post, but it would be long, drawn out, and angry as hell. They wouldn't like me at all.

[Tucker]

Oh, if they'd let me in to say my piece, I would only have one post, but it would be long, drawn out, and angry as hell. They wouldn't like me at all.

My first mole got 2 posts. I got TS'd when I said that the UN should be kicked out of the U.S.

[AllosaursRus]

So who does that DUmb **** think should support him? The rest of the "workers"? I'll admit I have a job right now, and have no idea when or if I be able to  work. But when I was able to, and didn't work I didn't think the government should support me.

I'm havin' a "disagreement with "Toots" right now over her wanting me to take advantage of my disability and check into gettin' back some of the money I've paid in over the years.

I keep tellin' her it just goes against everything I believe in, yet she insists I retrieve at least what I have paid in!

More at 11:00!

[BlueStateSaint]

I'm havin' a "disagreement with "Toots" right now over her wanting me to take advantage of my disability and check into gettin' back some of the money I've paid in over the years.

I keep tellin' her it just goes against everything I believe in, yet she insists I retrieve at least what I have paid in!

More at 11:00!

You have to ask yourself just who would be better served with that money--you, or some crack whore?  Because that's who'd get it otherwise.

[Chris_]

Shut the **** up, you whiny little bitch.

I drive 30 miles ONE WAY to get to work every day, that's 60 miles per DAY for you DUmmies who cannot do math.  I work 40 hours a week, but it feels like more because of the commute.  After work, I manage to come home, play with my daughter, get some dinner ready, clean up a bit, get our daughter a bath, brush her teeth, read her a book, and put her to bed.

My job doesn't pay a whole lot of money, but it's enough money for us to live some what comfortably.  We make the best of our situation.  We don't run out and buy steaks every night.  To be honest, I can't remember the last time we even had a steak. 

You have to do what you have to do.  Stop whining about your job.  Be thankful you have one!  What an ungrateful whiny bitch.

[Ballygrl]

I'm havin' a "disagreement with "Toots" right now over her wanting me to take advantage of my disability and check into gettin' back some of the money I've paid in over the years.

I keep tellin' her it just goes against everything I believe in, yet she insists I retrieve at least what I have paid in!

More at 11:00!

I have no problem with people getting disability if they have a legitimate reason for it, if you have a legitimate reason than Toots is right.

[Ree]

I'm havin' a "disagreement with "Toots" right now over her wanting me to take advantage of my disability and check into gettin' back some of the money I've paid in over the years.

I keep tellin' her it just goes against everything I believe in, yet she insists I retrieve at least what I have paid in!

More at 11:00!

Thanks...now ya made me feel guilty