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Offline Karin

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Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« on: June 24, 2010, 01:36:09 PM »
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts)      Thu Jun-24-10 10:03 AM
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Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
 http://abcnews.go.com/WN/elementary-schools-give-condom...

When kindergarten through fifth grade students return to class at Veterans Memorial Elementary School in Provincetown, Mass., this fall, they'll be able to ask the school nurse for condoms.

A controversial new policy in Provincetown will allow at Provincetown's elementary school students access to condoms. School committee members unanimously approved the new policy last week, which allows students to request condoms from the school nurse or a counselor, even if their parents object.
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femmocrat  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-24-10 10:07 AM
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3. This is the kind of stuff that gives fodder to the right wing.
 Now they will accuse us of "passing out condoms" in the public schools.

Why would a kindergartner need a condom, or even know what they are for? 

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-24-10 10:15 AM
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10. I knew someone who was the school tart at eleven
 and that was over 50 years ago. It happens. She had scars from it, but at least those were the days of condom dispensers in men's rooms so she didn't present her parents with a grandchild at eleven or twelve, abortion being illegal.

I prefer the open bowl of condoms in the nurse's office, available to grab without comment. Every nurse I ever worked with who had kids over twelve had a box of condoms in a drawer in the kitchen and replenished it as necessary, again without comment.

One thing parents need to realize is that they don't own their children's bodies and that their children have the right to make stupid decisions. Allowing them access to something that will avoid having them die from those decisions is the right thing to do.

We might find it sad that a ten year old child would need condoms. However, it's unrealistic to think that they don't.

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sufrommich  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-24-10 10:27 AM
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There is no such thing as an 11 year old "tart". Any girl or boy
 sexually active at 10 or 11 probably has been abused at some point. Handing them a condom and saying "sorry about your short lived childhood,kid" is not the answer.

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-24-10 10:49 AM
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28. You need to get one thing through your head
 and that it's the kid's decision, not yours.

Then they have a DUmmie fight. 

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Greyhound  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-24-10 01:31 PM
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77. No, I say that children taking their new toys out for a test drive is to be expected
 and there;s nothing wrong with that. Like drugs, though not completely benign, attempts to impose a prohibition on it is more harmful with far reaching unintended consequences.
 

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daleanime  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-24-10 01:09 PM
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66. I think you answer your own question....
 What's a Bar/Bat-Mitzvah? Doesn't sound very Christian to me.
  No, you can't be that much of an ignoramous. 

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Raksha (1000+ posts)      Thu Jun-24-10 02:03 PM
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84.  That could happen if the word gets around the school that taking a condom from the nurse's office will result in an invention. 
 
  I'm not being a spelling nazi here, I just thought it was funny, inventing things out of condoms.   :lmao:

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Forkboy  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jun-24-10 01:26 PM
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75. Kindergarten seems a little young, but as someone who lost their virginity at age 11....
  Forkboy's ghey, isn't he?  Oh man......

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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 01:49:08 PM »
What a ridiculous thread, and what a way to teach responsibility, since when should the schools be responsible for people preventing pregnancy? if you're old enough to have sex you should be old enough to prevent pregnancy or live with the consequences if you get pregnant. I'm so fed up also with Parents shirking their responsibilities towards their kids. What ever happened to yelling "just don't do it" and the kid being scared enough not to do it?
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 02:18:24 PM »
The thought of my 11 year old getting condoms from the school nurse makes me puke. Heck, because of CA budget cuts my daughter's school doesn't even have a nurse and her teacher lost her job. Yet stupid schools like this one are spending tax payer money to give 5-11 year olds condoms. Way to go!

Liberals always take things too far which is something we can always count on.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 02:56:04 PM »
Nope, I refuse to go over there and read any of that garbage . . . just the excerpts provided are enough to cause a stroke!  That's just disgusting . . . Warpy has a very apropos name.  :censored:
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 03:08:05 PM »
Quote from: njpines on June 24, 2010, 02:56:04 PM
Nope, I refuse to go over there and read any of that garbage . . . just the excerpts provided are enough to cause a stroke!  That's just disgusting . . . Warpy has a very apropos name.  :censored:

I hate to say this but I went to school with a person who would fit Warpy to a tee.  Even more scary, there was also an eleven year old tart who liked the older boys.  Her home life was not the best IIRC.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 03:52:46 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on June 24, 2010, 03:08:05 PM
I hate to say this but I went to school with a person who would fit Warpy to a tee.  Even more scary, there was also an eleven year old tart who liked the older boys.  Her home life was not the best IIRC.

C'mon, zeit--does this REALLY surprise you?  After all, it IS P-town.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 03:57:09 PM »
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One thing parents need to realize is that they don't own their children's bodies and that their children have the right to make stupid decisions. Allowing them access to something that will avoid having them die from those decisions is the right thing to do.


You are a despicable and disgraceful piece of shit. :bird:
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 04:04:06 PM »
I can't even come up with the words of how ****ed up these people are!
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 04:10:10 PM »
If you ever wondered how the mind of a serial killer works, just read the things written by the Warpy and Greyhound primitives.  And get this; they consider their viewpoints to be "moral."  Just shows how screwed up they are.

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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 04:13:17 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on June 24, 2010, 04:04:06 PM
I can't even come up with the words of how ****ed up these people are!

AR and Carl, does this phrase ring a bell?

"If it feels good, do it."

They never graduated out of toddlerhood.  Hell, my little girl even helps us out emptying the dishwasher, and she'll help put her "classmates" at daycare to sleep for their naps (she'll help soothe them).  She's not three years old yet.  She has a more mature outlook than a lot of the DUmmies.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 04:19:11 PM »
1. Anybody here remember when schools taught academic subjects?

2. God out; condoms in. Gotcha.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 06:36:51 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on June 24, 2010, 04:04:06 PM
I can't even come up with the words of how ****ed up these people are!

Me either so I'll just stop here.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2010, 06:50:59 PM »
This was just a DUmmie thread on June 16:

The sexualization of girls and mental health problems which was posted here under the title    
Religous rights warnings ignored and derided, leftists now lament decay

So DUmmies, either you are for or against the sexualization of children and passing out condoms in kindergarten?  What do you expect from your bankrupt philosophy?
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2010, 06:59:50 PM »
Quote from: Splashdown on June 24, 2010, 04:19:11 PM
1. Anybody here remember when schools taught academic subjects?

2. God out; condoms in. Gotcha.

A result of unleashed liberals.  We need to get conservatives back into education.  That's the only way this type of ridiculousness would go away.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2010, 07:20:52 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on June 24, 2010, 03:52:46 PM
C'mon, zeit--does this REALLY surprise you?  After all, it IS P-town.

The superintendent will get fired for this -- the state is having a cow.  I imagine the commissioner will be intervening shortly.   
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2010, 07:24:25 PM »
Quote from: Hawkgirl on June 24, 2010, 06:59:50 PM
A result of unleashed liberals.  We need to get conservatives back into education.  That's the only way this type of ridiculousness would go away.

P-town is a beautiful beautiful part of Cape Cod that is inhabited by the gay community (pretty much in its entirety).   Left of left of left would be close to what they are.   This is not indicative of the entire state -- who is pretty much flipping out over this.   

Like Sparky said though, this is P-town, so meh, it's expected.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2010, 08:37:06 PM »
Quote from: Splashdown on June 24, 2010, 04:19:11 PM
1. Anybody here remember when schools taught academic subjects?

2. God out; condoms in. Gotcha.

Christian God out-Allah, wicca, new age "higher power" are all acceptable.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2010, 08:53:27 PM »
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femmocrat  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-24-10 10:07 AM
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3. This is the kind of stuff that gives fodder to the right wing.
 Now they will accuse us of "passing out condoms" in the public schools.

Why would a kindergartner need a condom, or even know what they are for?

Isn't that exactly what you're doing?
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2010, 09:18:34 PM »
Governor calls superintendent -- they will now change the policy.  Of course they will the freakin morons.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/06/provincetown_sc.html
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2010, 09:23:01 PM »
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femmocrat  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jun-24-10 10:07 AM
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3. This is the kind of stuff that gives fodder to the right wing.
 Now they will accuse us of "passing out condoms" in the public schools.

Why would a kindergartner need a condom, or even know what they are for? 
Yet someone (most likely a liberal) in Massachusetts thought it was necessary.   :whatever:

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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2010, 10:32:16 AM »
Quote from: formerlurker on June 24, 2010, 07:20:52 PM
The superintendent will get fired for this -- the state is having a cow.  I imagine the commissioner will be intervening shortly.   

EVERYONE is jumping on the bandwagon.  But let's face it--if Deville's polling numbers weren't such total shit, he would be applauding the P-town pickle-puffing idiots...

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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2010, 10:43:50 AM »
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2010, 10:44:17 AM »
So the only reason to NOT do it is because it will give "fodder" to the other side. Wow.

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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2010, 12:07:10 PM »
I firmly believe that this country needs another civil war. Liberals are everywhere. There's only one solution to liberalism.
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Re: Should Elementary Schools Give Condoms to Students?
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2010, 03:07:43 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on June 25, 2010, 10:32:16 AM
EVERYONE is jumping on the bandwagon.  But let's face it--if Deville's polling numbers weren't such total shit, he would be applauding the P-town pickle-puffing idiots...

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