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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: MrsSmith on June 26, 2009, 08:55:44 PM
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uponit7771 posts) Fri Jun-26-09 12:10 AM
Original message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8497594)
So my 11month old has a temp of 103.2, Im in the emergency room with...
...where people were standing cause of lack of seating....
Anyone fighting true health care reform should have to spend a couple of hrs here...
first child, jus worried...frustrated...tired...
thx for reading...
Not sure that I'd drag my kid out at midnight for 103.2... even with the first one.
uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-26-09 12:19 AM
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8. they just did....it was Tylenol....he was so limp
Hmmm...only 9 minutes later, the kid has been given the medication that most parents would have given at home. OK...
uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-26-09 12:56 AM
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22. We do have decent coverage, the standing room only when I first walked
...in and a sick child jus brought the HC fight home a lil. I know e rooms aren't profit centers for hospitals....
what we could be doing in this country if some wern't so concerned with profits...
sry...should be more thsnkful...a limp kid with a 103 temp and some really selfish peole fighting reform has got me......thinkin
OK, now it's really starting to bounce... ::) Point 1, the kid's not all that sick. Point 2, he's already been given Tylenol and then we get to Point 3) if we passed reform, ER's would magically be empty every time we walked in.
Obviously uponit has never in his/her life gone to a military (hint:government run) ER. I have. They are a thousand times worse than any other ER I've ever seen.
uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-26-09 01:32 AM
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37. He still feels hot but not like 3 hrs ago...
...still waiting on doc
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-26-09 02:28 AM
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40. His fever has come down to 99, doc said looks like sore throst
Wow, if there is any truth to this one, uponit was using up ER time, room, and equipment for a kid's sore throat. Yep, healthcare reform will fix that. They'll triage at the door, and uponit would be sent right back home.
uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-26-09 06:21 PM
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53. He's drank a couple of bottles and ate some mashed fruit and is really sleepy, wife and I are goin
...to be the worrying parents this weekend and stay inside.
We got him home around 4 in the morning so he's really tired
The hospital was great even thought it was packed, I'm still trying to find a 24 hour urgent care around the subdivision but we can't find any...
Any who...
Thx for keep us in your thoughts!!!
God bless !!
Well, be sure and hassle your government until they "fix" that, ok? :banghead:
I'm glad the kid is OK, hope he grows up smarter than Dad. ::)
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I only have one and he's now 23 but he had plenty of high fevers in the middle of the night, the middle of the day, and every hour in between. I would call the doctor and he would tell me to give him Tylenol.
Uponit is probably one of those who thinks illegal aliens should be given amnesty, too.
No wonder our hospitals are in trouble.
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This if nothing else proves what a bankrupting (over and above what is already) program it would be.
They would literally run to the doctor for a hangnail.
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My kid had a temp of about 103 not too long ago, when we were out of town over a weekend. Rather than drive her to the ER, we gave her some Tylenol and a lukewarm bath and kept her hydrated. The next day (Sunday) her fever was still there, but had gone down to 100. By Monday afternoon, she was back to normal.
I understand being a nervous parent, but as long as the kid isn't having seizures, turning odd colors, or having problems breathing, there is no need to go to the ER. This was such a waste of the hospital's time and money.
Also...who the hell POSTS about it online when they are in the ER with a kid? WTF?
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My kid had a temp of about 103 not too long ago, when we were out of town over a weekend. Rather than drive her to the ER, we gave her some Tylenol and a lukewarm bath and kept her hydrated. The next day (Sunday) her fever was still there, but had gone down to 100. By Monday afternoon, she was back to normal.
I understand being a nervous parent, but as long as the kid isn't having seizures, turning odd colors, or having problems breathing, there is no need to go to the ER. This was such a waste of the hospital's time and money.
Also...who the hell POSTS about it online when they are in the ER with a kid? WTF?
Exactly. The times I have had a kid in ER, the last thing I'd have done was get online. ::) I guess you have to be a DUmmy to understand. I wonder if they carry a laptop in to use the toilet? :puke:
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Idiots like DUmmy uponitnumbers are the reason ERs are crowded, not our system of medical care.
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Idiots like DUmmy uponitnumbers are the reason ERs are crowded, not our system of medical care.
Totally. A temp of 103.2 earns some tylonel, maybe motrin, and a call to the doctor.
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Hell <<I>> had a temp of 103 a couple days ago, as did all of the three kids (they gave me a nasty virus for Fathers Day) - its just a matter of beating the fever down by alternating Tylenol and Motrin.. And a cool bath doesn't hurt either.
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Now, remember, people...we're all sensible Republicans who pay our bills and all that...you can't expect common sense and self-reliance from DUmmies.
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My daughter had a 105 degree fever when she was about three months old. We took her to the ER, they gave her Motrin to bring the temp down. We just didn't know about it at that point. We have used motrin and tylenol everytime they get a good fever since then.
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Same with my daughter. She was 3 months old and had a 103 temp. She had a urinary tract infection though. She was a very strange baby though. Anytime she didn't poo for over 48 hours she would run a pretty good temperature. I told the doctor about it and he rolled his eyes. Of course just because I was with her 24 hours a day didn't mean I had any idea what was going on with her. ::)
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Also...who the hell POSTS about it online when they are in the ER with a kid? WTF?
That is exactly what I was thinking when I started reading this nonsense. :mental:
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That is exactly what I was thinking when I started reading this nonsense. :mental:
But the story is so important to the cause!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111 :whatever:
I'm constantly amazed at the personal sh*t that people post in a public forum.
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and then we get to Point 3) if we passed reform, ER's would magically be empty every time we walked in.
That is my LOL moment for single-payer...
if this "single payer" nonsense ever gets passed into law... and these 40 million without healthcare, and the untold millions with healthcare that don't run to a doctor every time their tummy hurts (because they would have to pay for that visit) suddenly descend upon our existing services?
you would have a 3 month wait to have a hang-nail looked at. amazing. they can't get that, though...
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Do they really think 'reform' will 'fix' this? what idiots.
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The 'tards at the DUmp apparently haven't looked across the pond at how "single payer" really works, for example in Britain.
Apparently all those reports the last three years or more of folks waiting in Ambulances in the UK for 8-12 hours at a pop, just so they could get INTO the lobby of the Emergency Room there for another 4 hour wait, because the British Parliament passed a law that mandated that patients could be forced to wait in the lobby no more than 4 hours to be seen in an Emergency Room, are just Rovian propaganda meant to sabotage Teh Øne's plans for hope and change.
:banghead:
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and the chance you'd get a semi-private room in UK??
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Do they really think 'reform' will 'fix' this? what idiots.
"Reform" is the magic word, just like "fairness" and "equality". Liberals think if they repeat words often enough, they retain some sort of magical properties.
*hope and change... ommm... hope and change... ommm*
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and the chance you'd get a semi-private room in UK??
Great, so long as you understand that "semi-private" means you'll be hot-bunking with 3 other patients.
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and the chance you'd get a semi-private room in UK??
You might get one, but there's a three month wait. :censored:
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Great, so long as you understand that "semi-private" means you'll be hot-bunking with 3 other patients.
I don't think 99% Americans have even seen the old fashion wards. They probably never think it could happen here. Ha.
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I don't think 99% Americans have even seen the old fashion wards. They probably never think it could happen here. Ha.
I'll guarantee that 99% of DUmbasses haven't seen one. And that 115% of 'em would be weeping and wailing and gnashing their teeth the first time they were herded into one like so many DUmb cattle.
I remember them quite well, from when I got my tonsils out at San Diego Naval Hospital.
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I don't think 99% Americans have even seen the old fashion wards. They probably never think it could happen here. Ha.
Three or four rows of identical beds in a barracks-type room? The hospitals might as well... it's the only way they might survive with illegals, illiterates, and incompetents jamming up the emergency rooms.
I say let the medical students practice on them. :evillaugh:
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Each major city medical college should let the students work on the illegals and the dirt-poor and the DUmmies. They could build them warehouse-style, 100 to a ward.
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We have one general hospital here... you go there if you're homeless, on welfare, or desperate. Anyone with insurance avoids it like the plague.
I have what appears to be a large, nasty cyst on my finger. I could be an asshole and go to the emergency room and have it removed after a two-hour wait but I'm a decent person and will schedule a doctor to look at it. If his rates are reasonable, I'll pay him cash. If not, I have insurance.
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A fever in a child? GASP! The horror! :whatever:
A fever warrants a call to the Dr's office, unless it reaches 104-105, doesn't reduce with tylenol or motrin, or has other troubling symptoms with it. I bet this idiot never even administered Tylenol at home to try to take care of it. And the whole "limp" thing...well, duh, kid's got a fever and it's friggin midnight!
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A fever in a child? GASP! The horror! :whatever:
A fever warrants a call to the Dr's office, unless it reaches 104-105, doesn't reduce with tylenol or motrin, or has other troubling symptoms with it. I bet this idiot never even administered Tylenol at home to try to take care of it. And the whole "limp" thing...well, duh, kid's got a fever and it's friggin midnight!
When my son was 3 months old, he had a fever of 104. We we're visiting his Great Grand Parents in Detroit at the time, so I couldn't take him to the Doctor (militaries insurance will only cover "loss of life or limb" emergencies when we're not visiting our primary care dude). 2 am I went down to a Walgreens, got some infant tylenol and motrin, gave him half a dose of each (since he was about 3 months to young for that stuff) and come morning he was just fine.
$10 and a little bit of lost sleep was all it cost me. This DUmmie probably wracked up a $600 easy for their insurance company to cover.
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When my son was 3 months old, he had a fever of 104. We we're visiting his Great Grand Parents in Detroit at the time, so I couldn't take him to the Doctor (militaries insurance will only cover "loss of life or limb" emergencies when we're not visiting our primary care dude). 2 am I went down to a Walgreens, got some infant tylenol and motrin, gave him half a dose of each (since he was about 3 months to young for that stuff) and come morning he was just fine.
$10 and a little bit of lost sleep was all it cost me. This DUmmie probably wracked up a $600 easy for their insurance company to cover.
If they even have insurance...sounds more like medicad peeps...
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The question is what is the dummie bitching about? Takes kid to EMERGENCY ROOM, has to wait to be seen with all the other miscreants that use the ER as a primary care clinic (think it is bad now, all you military folks remember what the ER at the base hospital or Clinic was like), get seen (evidently within a timely manner) and then goes home. Hope that they did not feel slighted if they had to wait a little while if a MVA or a trauma came in.
The thing that we should be all bitching about is that this dummie could not afford "What to Expect during the First Year" book. Used to love it when people showed up at the ER complaining of a sore throat for 6 hours. Can't turn them away, have to see them. Takes time and money to staff an ER and then the people with no way to pay for that service (or willing even to try to pay) use it all the time for non-emergency care.
Wonder how all those Afgan elders live as long as they do seeing that they rarley if ever see a doctor and no way in hell do they have an ER to run to if they have the sniffles.
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Flame, I was thinking the same. Limp? It's after midnight! I'm limp myself then.
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Wonder how all those Afgan elders live as long as they do seeing that they rarely if ever see a doctor and no way in hell do they have an ER to run to if they have the sniffles.
A lot of those toothless half-blind ancients are in their fifties.
With a half-dozen teenaged wives at home.
Cause and effect.
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Flame, I was thinking the same. Limp? It's after midnight! I'm limp myself then.
Me too. Unless "Toots" is feelin' frisky!
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The question is what is the dummie bitching about? Takes kid to EMERGENCY ROOM, has to wait to be seen with all the other miscreants that use the ER as a primary care clinic (think it is bad now, all you military folks remember what the ER at the base hospital or Clinic was like), get seen (evidently within a timely manner) and then goes home. Hope that they did not feel slighted if they had to wait a little while if a MVA or a trauma came in.
The thing that we should be all bitching about is that this dummie could not afford "What to Expect during the First Year" book. Used to love it when people showed up at the ER complaining of a sore throat for 6 hours. Can't turn them away, have to see them. Takes time and money to staff an ER and then the people with no way to pay for that service (or willing even to try to pay) use it all the time for non-emergency care.
Wonder how all those Afgan elders live as long as they do seeing that they rarley if ever see a doctor and no way in hell do they have an ER to run to if they have the sniffles.
And this is exactly why our ER now has a "Minor Care" unit...for those that won't pay a doctor. One of our hospitalists runs it exactly like an after-hours clinic (which we also have, downtown), and people with minor ailments are shuffled through there quickly to keep them out of the ER. Not only can they be seen and sent home quickly, it reduces exposure to illness for all involved.
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A fever in a child? GASP! The horror! :whatever:
A fever warrants a call to the Dr's office, unless it reaches 104-105, doesn't reduce with tylenol or motrin, or has other troubling symptoms with it. I bet this idiot never even administered Tylenol at home to try to take care of it. And the whole "limp" thing...well, duh, kid's got a fever and it's friggin midnight!
Exactly - When the Missus and I were new parents, we called the pediatrician's office more times than we care to remember - most of the time for simple things that Tylenol, Motrin, a cool bath, etc. would fix. If we felt we needed advice immediately, we called friends and family who had recent child experience we could draw from. Never did we panic and run to the E.R. -- and we could have too, as the hospital is about three blocks from my house.
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Oh I could tell lots of stories about sitting in a military ER babysitting a suicidal patient. It was usually a 3-4 hour wait for someone from psyche to trapse down to take them.
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Oh I could tell lots of stories about sitting in a military ER babysitting a suicidal patient. It was usually a 3-4 hour wait for someone from psyche to trapse down to take them.
And how many of those stories included the sentiment "I wish he'd do it already, and get it over with", about 2½ - 3 hours into the babysitting?
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And how many of those stories included the sentiment "I wish he'd do it already, and get it over with", about 2½ - 3 hours into the babysitting?
All but one.
But he was a friend that was going through the loss of his 3 year old child and wife.
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And this is exactly why our ER now has a "Minor Care" unit...for those that won't pay a doctor. One of our hospitalists runs it exactly like an after-hours clinic (which we also have, downtown), and people with minor ailments are shuffled through there quickly to keep them out of the ER. Not only can they be seen and sent home quickly, it reduces exposure to illness for all involved.
That is the way to do it. Walgreens has a couple of stores that have NP in them. They handle acute stuff, do sports physicals and the like. I would gladly go to an office with cash pricing posted. It could decrease insurance costs significantly if Insurance was use like car insurance is, for significant events. If people have to pay 20-25 bucks for an office call for a fever < 24 hours, maybe it would stop or slow unneeded office visits
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All but one.
But he was a friend that was going through the loss of his 3 year old child and wife.
Yikes..
A story. A mutual friend of the missus and I had located a brother in the Boston area years after losing touch with him. Once she convinced him to move to the area we met him. He appeared like a hobo. Filthy, Stinking, unshaven. Rotten teeth. I figured perhaps he was homeless, and had been found, and now his life would improve. Months.. years later, no change. He was always happy, never seemed suicidal, but had the poorest hygiene of any person alive who isn't homeless. Years later, I had seen a picture of this person - in uniform-- chean-shaven..healthy, and eventually found out the reason for the decline.
His entire family was annihilated in a car accident. He was spared because he was at work, which is where he was when he had been informed.
And then I understood.
Years later, he had recovered, cleaned up, became gainfully employed and moved on.
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Yikes..
A story. A mutual friend of the missus and I had located a brother in the Boston area years after losing touch with him. Once she convinced him to move to the area we met him. He appeared like a hobo. Filthy, Stinking, unshaven. Rotten teeth. I figured perhaps he was homeless, and had been found, and now his life would improve. Months.. years later, no change. He was always happy, never seemed suicidal, but had the poorest hygiene of any person alive who isn't homeless. Years later, I had seen a picture of this person - in uniform-- chean-shaven..healthy, and eventually found out the reason for the decline.
His entire family was annihilated in a car accident. He was spared because he was at work, which is where he was when he had been informed.
And then I understood.
Years later, he had recovered, cleaned up
, became gainfully employed and moved on.
A car accident took my friends family as well. A drunk driver hit them head on. We were floating off the coast at the time and were able to fly him off.
They were going to fly him off the next day but he made the attempt that night. So He the Chaplain and myself flew off at about 2am and took him straight to the hospital.
2 years later he is doing better but the person that I knew before all of this is gone. :(
But on the bright side he is still in the military and is doing well there and has started dating again recently.
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I've sat in an emergency room several times in the healthcare utopia of Canada. Kid with broken arm... 10 hours. Girlfriend puking in wastebasket and passing out from the pain caused by what turned out to be a pleurosy.. 8 hours, the first six of which there was not even a doctor on duty in the ER, only triage nurses. One time, I actually saw a father there with his little girl, who had a SKINNED KNEE. And not even a badly skinned one. I saw him walking out with her several hours later with a regular bandaid on her knee.