daveman is the reason franksolich is still a work-in-process.
When I first showed up over at the other place (May 2005), I was crude and rude and boorish and arrogant.
franksolich made the nocturnally foul one here look gracious and sophisticated.
It took some months, but through the intense efforts, the gentle chastisement, of daveman, franksolich got a little bit more polished.....and then daveman went away, and franksolich got rougher again.